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The Paris atrocities are a display of faith

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Is there any "historical evidence" that Abraham actually existed? I wont even ask about Adam and Eve.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 4:24:45 AM
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//Is there any "historical evidence" that Abraham actually existed? I wont even ask about Adam and Eve.//

Is there any historical evidence Adam and Eve existed? How about this highly detailed photograph of Adam, Eve and a dinosaur?

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-02/enhanced/webdr05/5/1/enhanced-4835-1391582190-2.jpg

Well, it's about as reliable a historical source as the Bible...
Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 6:38:14 AM
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Dear Josephus,

No matter how assured you are that something is true, without any evidence to support it, it remains faith. Any faith is blind faith.

To the best of my knowledge there is no evidence to support the existence of any Hebrew mentioned in the Bible predating Hezekiah.

http://phys.org/news/2015-12-israelite-judean-king-exposed-situ.html
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 8:06:22 AM
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"And as for Seth, to him also a son was born; and he named him Enosh. Then men began to call on the name of the Lord."

[Genesis 4:26]

Now 'Enosh' in Hebrew means 'human' (and 'enoshi' means 'humane').

It is only due to human limitations that we tend to think of God as an object, ascribing to Him a name, a form, some qualities and/or a function.

According to the biblical story (regardless whether or not it is historically true), Adam and Eve knew God directly so it hasn't occurred to them to call Him by name - only Enosh did and thereafter.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 8:54:48 AM
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The evidence is found in billions of persons who class Abraham as the founder of their world view, and trace their heritage back to him. It is the origin of ideas that does not show in paleontology unless inscribed in stone. Abraham was a single person who moved from Ur on the Tigrus River to West toward current Israel.

Abraham believed the world is a unity under ONE Creator. Adam and Ever were located in Ur along with Abraham, so prior to Abraham the view was that Elohim [plural gods] created the Universe. Jewish writers wrote the text of the Old Testament and interpreted all events in the light that no other Gods existed. The Septuagint [Greek translation] translates all the terms used for God / gods as Kurios [English Lord] assuming no other deity could be written in Jewish scripture, because they did not exist.

David Abraham had more in common with your attitudes than you are willing to admit.

I am away now for several days.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 9:02:38 AM
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Dear Josephus,

To claim that something is true because millions of people believe it is to admit that you have no evidence.

At one time many people believed in the bygone pantheon of Zeus et al. That didn't make it true. In the future when Christianity, Judaism and Islam are also bygone people will believe in other nonsense.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 9:53:07 AM
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