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Jay Of Melbourne,
Balls, "they were never intended to apply to Arabs, Africans and Asians." How do you know what was the "intention" of such people in the 18th Century. it may well have been, but then again it may not have been.
Spoken like a true white supremacists.

I was simply commenting on Josephus's claim that "The history of Western society has been developed by Romanism and tempered by the developments in Christian thinking over the last thousand years." Today Christian fundamentalists hold to the belief that all in the bible is literally true. Have you ever read the bible to see what such people believe. Less than 200 hundred year ago mainstream Christians were still executing people for heresy, Cayetano Ripoll was the last known in 1826 in Spain. Excommunication continues to this day, As an antidote to the spreading 'infection' of Modernism, Pope Leo XIII, in 1902, had created the Pontifical Biblical Commission to supervise and monitor the progress (or lack thereof) of Catholic scriptural scholarship. It consisted originally of a dozen or more cardinals appointed by the Pope and a number of 'consultants', all deemed to be experts in their fields of research and study.
According to the New Catholic Encyclopaedia, the Commission's official function was (and still is),
'to strive... with all possible care that God's words... will be shielded not only from every breath of error but even from every rash opinion'.1
The Commission would further undertake to ensure that scholars 'Endeavour to safeguard the authority of the scriptures and to promote their right interpretation'
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 November 2015 4:27:16 PM
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" Excommunication continues to this day,...."

So what? It's done in football clubs as well.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 21 November 2015 4:39:50 PM
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Paul 1405,
Modern America was founded by a religious sect and their money stated, "In God we Trust". The rise of atheism in America is a recent phenomenon. France was strongly Catholic.

It is apparent from your claims you do not know what Christianity is! Read the gospels especially the teachings of Christ - that is Christianity. The writings prior to that give the background and context to the emergence of Christianity. The OT gives the history and life of Israel; Christians are not ancient Jews.

Obviously you prefer to believe secular atheism has formed our society and values. Former USSR communism is your example of a modern atheistic secular society.
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 21 November 2015 7:38:22 PM
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Josephus, and Czarist Russia before it is an example of a modern Christian state? Same mob, different song sheet. No, New Zealand is my example of a modern secular state. Please the Soviet Union was never an example of a modern atheistic secular society, in the true sense of what such a state should be. The USSR for most of its existence was a totalitarian state run by a despotic tyrant in the form of Joseph Stalin.
The separation of church and state is vital for the well being of society. One of your own the Rev Bill Crews, a man I much admire, said so on TV just the other day.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 22 November 2015 6:37:09 AM
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//So what? It's done in football clubs as well.//

No it isn't. Football clubs just kick you out of the club, which is not the same thing as excommunication and you know it. Excommunication is not just ostracism wearing a different hat (a mitre, presumably); the religious faithful believe it imperils their immortal soul. In Roman Catholicism it prohibits a person from receiving the sacraments, including penance and the last rites (which are just the sacraments of penance, eucharist and the anointing of the sick). Under catholic theology if you die while excommunicate, you are guaranteed eternal damnation in the next life. To the religious faithful, the prospect of eternity in the lake of fire is somewhat more concerning than just being booted out of the club, which is the worst sanction a football club can impose.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 22 November 2015 7:31:33 AM
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Paul 1405,
A society with taboos is not a secular society.
There's separation of church and state but no separation of religion and state, it's illegal to speak certain phrases in Australia and all political parties continually agitate to increase the scope of speech laws and declare more and more forms of free speech Haram or Taboo.
Furthermore this idea of liberty has been distorted by those at the top of Australian public life, we're fast approaching a society which is totalitarian in that the people have no say in the way their society is structured but still have their freedom and some limited opportunities for personal development.
It's a clever program, like Left Socialism Islam is now a part of the system, it's actually a forming bulwark against criticism of the Canberra regime, if you support Islam you're part of "Team Australia" if you don't you're a social pariah who needs to be stripped of his liberty and right to speak.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 22 November 2015 7:34:58 AM
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