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Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 17 October 2015 10:58:08 PM
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//Personally, I'm sceptical of their climate change claims and I think its part of a depopulation and global government agenda.//
Yep, that's madness alright. //carbon dioxide and nitric oxide which are abundant in the earth's upper atmosphere greenhouse gases actually reflect heating energy rather than absorb it, meaning that increased CO2 is actually cooling the planet.// And this is nonsense. CO2 absorbs and emits IR radiation at its two IR active vibrational frequencies, which happen to fall within the wavelength range emitted by the Earth. Any gas which absorbs and emits in the wavelength range emitted by the Earth will act as a greenhouse gas, and contribute to warming of the planets surface (where we live). Nitric oxide (NO) and nitrogen dioxide (NO2) are not greenhouse gases, although they do play a role in the formation of ozone (O3) which is. Nitrous oxide (N2O), also known as 'laughing gas', is a greenhouse gas but makes little contribution to the overall greenhouse effect. Armchair Critic, it would be a good idea if you started obtaining your information from reliable sources and not loony conspiracy theory websites like this: http://truthism.com/ Next time you feel like looking up something on the web, I suggest that instead you walk to your local library and ask one of the librarians to direct you to the relevant shelves in their non-fiction section. It's not as quick and easy as googling stuff I know, but books are a lot more reliable than websites published by random nutcases. After you've looked at enough credible sources of information, you'll probably find that you develop a more acute critical faculty and can more easily distinguish reliable and unreliable sources, at which point google really does become a useful research tool (provided you can avoid the lure of being sucked in by sensationalist websites that present claims that sound too amazing not not be true, but which have bugger all evidential basis). Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 18 October 2015 10:51:56 AM
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Co2 is actually cooling the planet. Now that is dangerous, if you can put doubts like that into some minds.
Conspiracy is never ending, they just change dates as deadlines pass. The new fiction. Abbott told us what he thought of Climate Change, in one word. Where did he get his education that bought about that conclusion, and to be so decisive. A one world order, not that is going to be one hell of a vote. Lets hope we don’t get one like we did. I can’t see that happening anytime soon, politicians like the drunkenness that comes with power. 400 PPM Co2 has tipped the scales. Nothing new it has happened before. This time we created it, that is where the difference is. Time for talk is over, we need rules and timetables to abide by. The consequences of doing nothing are not in our best interests. We are guaranteed an extra 3 degree of temperature, That is enough to cause major shifts in the way we live, where we grow, and ocean life Posted by doog, Sunday, 18 October 2015 12:44:31 PM
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"Personally, I'm sceptical of their climate change claims and I think its part of a depopulation and global government agenda."
You can be as sceptical as you like. Unfortunately nature does not give a fig for whether we believe in climate change or not - our beliefs about the world have no influence on how the world actually is. Your concern about a global government is something that we can control. But here you are far too late; it is already happening. We continue to foster the illusion that we are a sovereign state but we have signed up to a host of global treaties which limit our sovereign power. Furthermore if you have a look here https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/221/47211.html you will see that of the 100 largest economies 51 are corporations; corporations that do not hesitate to use their power. So climate change will happen regardless of whether anyone believes in it or not and if you are worried that we do not have control of our destiny, you are too late we have already lost that control. So you can slit your wrists or just get drunk and forget about engaging in debates such as this. Posted by BAYGON, Sunday, 18 October 2015 7:34:21 PM
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Guess I'm a little guilty of reading the headlines on this one.
In any case you can't deny there's an agenda to silence the voices of those who challenge the official line.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/06/19/petition-to-silence-climate-change-deniers-gains-over-3000-signatures/
Personally, I'm sceptical of their climate change claims and I think its part of a depopulation and global government agenda.
I don't necessary deny that man-made climate change exists or that overpopulation wont eventually become a problem.
For example, I'm sure that we could turn a really nice rainforest into a desert if we tried to, and I always think of the story where goats were introduced to an island, ate and bred until there was no food on the island left, and then subsequently all starved to death.
But I think every aspect of the official 'climate change' line is manipulated, overstated and dramatised to create a level of concern among the general public which will force governments to act.
From what I understand the 'homogenised' data is manipulated so that cooling trends become warming trends.
- That climate change models are unreliable and so are the projections.
- That carbon dioxide is good for plants and is greening the planet and that carbon dioxide and nitric oxide which are abundant in the earth's upper atmosphere greenhouse gases actually reflect heating energy rather than absorb it, meaning that increased CO2 is actually cooling the planet.
Then you have the other aspects such as changing sun activity, the earth tilting on its axis and Antarctica getting colder while the Arctic warms up.
Then there's the financial incentive of carbon pricing as well as the fact that reducing the use of coal will have a profound effect on the ability of developing countries citizens to move into the middle class.
And then, we have the admissions from the Club of Rome that global warming is a hoax to manipulate the public into accepting the imposition of a dictatorial world government, and the line that 'human population needs to be reduced' in order to prevent an ecological collapse.