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Cop This For Climate Madness

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Philip S & Baygon,
As a member of the Local Emergency Management Committee
I can assure you that in an emergency even the best installed systems
will fail for the general public.
There are priority listings to drop everything except emergency services.
When an emergency occurs especially bushfires, because the smoke can
be seen for miles everyone starts ring home, mum's, friends etc and
the network gives up.

Then there are real failures, such as trees being blown over and
dragging fibre optic cables out of the ground. It goes on & on.
No end of possibilities.

Anyway, it is irrelevant whether AGW is real or not as there is not
enough economically accessible fossil fuels to cause it.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 4:11:58 PM
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Bazz

You are right - I am a member of the CFS the powers that be in their infinite wisdom have designed our coms so that they work extremely well and it is easy to co-ordinate activities; unless of course there is a major fire as was the case last year.
The point of the article was that climate change will trigger severe weather conditions - storms, floods, bushfires but our systems are not geared for those sort of extreme events so even if you take all the civilians off the air our coms will still struggle; heavy smoke bends and distorts signals, fires can take out critical repeater stations etc
Posted by BAYGON, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 4:21:56 PM
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Well Baygon, here repeater sites have clearance around them and the
locals have the clearing on their regular program.

Have never experienced any loss of signal due to smoke although I
believe it is theoretically possible.
It would have to be a marginal signal in the first place, and be
communicating along the length of the smoke rather than across it.

It is hard to see any individual emergency any worse than the worse
that we have now. The mobile phone system is a bit different because
the powers are a lot less and on a significantly higher frequency.
It is shut down because of congestion, but it has not been done for
many years so I guess there is a lot more redundancy in the system.

The point I was making all those piled on global warming conditions
will not occur because the fuel is not there even if it is real.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 4:49:39 PM
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Found an article from Mr Al Gore himself from May that relates to the original comment ttbn posted.

Al Gore: We Must ‘Put a Price on Carbon’ and on Climate ‘Denial in Politics’
http://ecowatch.com/2015/05/07/al-gore-price-on-climate-denial/
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 17 October 2015 6:09:48 PM
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@Armchair critic - the original post claimed that there was a proposal on the table that was to make it illegal to deny climate change:
"Judges Plan to outlaw climate change " When you looked at the video the point was made that the Judiciary is well placed to weigh up contentious issues and that in a court of law judges would rule that on the balance of probabilities anthropogenic climate change is true. Hence if it were possible (and they doubted that it would be possible) if you wanted to make a civil claim for damages as a result of climate change then you would win, if and only if you could categorically identify who was responsible.
Gore is making much the same point neither Gore nor the Judges is proposing to outlaw climate change denial. There are lots of people who believe all sorts of weird and wonderful things - some believe that they have been abducted by aliens, some that the earth is flat yet others that we will all be reincarnated; whilst there is not a shred of scientific evidence for any of these beliefs people are free to hold them.
But if you want to claim in a court of law that you have been abducted by aliens then you will find that when the rules of evidence are applied you will get short shrift.
So when Gore says we must put a price on climate denial in politics he describing a tactic not denying anyone the right to say what they believe.
Posted by BAYGON, Saturday, 17 October 2015 8:27:40 PM
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Replying to an earlier comment on here;
The internets reliability was a priority when first designed.
It was a US defense system and the TCP/IP protocol was designed to be
able to find its way around severed pathways.
It is successful but it is a rather inefficient protocol. It has a lot
of overhead in the packets.

I suspect for this reason X.25 is used by telecom companies to cart
TCP/IP around the place. It is more efficient as each packet has only
three extra addressing bytes.

Anyway to sum up the internet can fall over rather badly.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 17 October 2015 9:49:55 PM
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