poirot: I'd love to stay here and trade insults - but I've got a lasagne to throw together.

I take exception to that. What insults?

Enjoy your Lasagne. Feel free to use the questions as conversation starters & get back to me with the results of your evening.

Love JB

If Poirot doesn't read Jayb's post as he claims, how does he respond to three of them in a row?.

......Yeah, "hey".....I'm of the opinion that you will never give two hoots for any child that's not of a certain socio-economic echelon. It's kinda sickening.

Poirot, sorry for the delay but I can't let your swipe at me go unchallenged.

During my 20 plus years in business I have provided support to the tune of $250K plus, most of which went towards children.

So what support have you given in that time period.

What most here are missing is that these kids are far better off where they are than where they came from and, the fact that they arrived illegally (albeit through their parents doing) does not give them the right to jump the que so as to speak.

The other point is there were 2000 in detention during Labors abortion of a management plan, there are now something in the order of 140. So where did the additional 860 go?

The other point you and your mates forget (conveniently I would suggest) is that labor built to camps, the libs have just been left with the mess and, I didn't hear a peep from you back then.

Perhaps you did kick up a stink and I missed it, Did you?

The fact if the matter is that as a previous poster has pointed out, which of cause you chose to ignore, is that if we let them in, we risk reopening the flood gates, these are the gates that labor created, and couldn't repair for two terms, yet they are the same ones Abbott closed in less than a year.

But do remember, labor caused this mess, then through their sheer incompetence, were dumped by the people and simply washed their hands of the problem, then had the hide to accuse others of causing the problem.

Have I got that right Poirot. Ar hang on, you don't answer questions do you!

rehctub,

"During my 20 plus years in business I have provided support to the tune of $250K plus, most of which went towards children.

So what support have you given in that time period."

So we both sponsor/support kids - my sponsorships are overseas...(yes, me too!)

I haven't bothered actually toting up the $$$, but for over 12 years - and ongoing.

"What most here are missing is that these kids are far better off where they are than where they came from and, the fact that they arrived illegally (albeit through their parents doing) does not give them the right to jump the que so as to speak."

For a start "it is not illegal to seek asylum" - and no matter what Morrison spun, they are NOT "illegal" which was a term he hijacked - and which pertained to a minor aspect in the technical classification of their arrival.

"The other point you and your mates forget (conveniently I would suggest) is that labor built to camps..."

Yes - that stinks as well!

"Perhaps you did kick up a stink and I missed it, Did you?"

Yes, you did...try foraging around for a succession of posts from me when Rudd announced his "Vote for me - I'm a Bastard too!" camp announcements.

"Have I got that right Poirot. Ar hang on, you don't answer questions do you!"

Well, yes I do Mr Butcherman, Sir - (just because I only read Jayb's three liners and ignore his longer posts, that's because I've had vast experience with his underhand style of interaction. I really do scroll straight past his longer guff these days....excellent!)

Getting back to your:

"...these kids are far better off where they are than where they came from..."

I find it deplorable that a fortunate man such as yourself can dismiss the child abuse and psychological abuse presided over by Australia - and excuses it on the grounds that the victims fled worse - an example of moral and ethical midgetry.

How can any grown adult dismiss child abuse thus?

Lol!...I'll just add this - presuming Jayb will attempt to daub his usual rubbish in reference to my "overseas child sponsorship".

They are in Ethiopia - and they're Christian.

Doog, you said ...A handful of rogues is what is causing the issues. The wider Muslim community has got to be on board to tell others that terrorism is not acceptable practice here.

And where do you think these rogues came from Doog?

When you allow people to immigrate, that are known to harbor and promote harm to others, show little to no respect for women and promote children to be married, in total disregard for our laws, you have the ingredients for trouble and as I say, leave the key ingredient out of the cake and you have no cake.

I also see police have arrested a 12yo for suspected terrorism in connection with the NSW police terror attack.

I ask you one simple question, in fact I ask you all, how much more evidence do you need that proves allowing these people in comes with greatly increased risks. I believe we should remove the welcome mat to anyone until we find a way to deal with this increasing terror risk.

Poirot, good on you but I prefer to channel my support locally.