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Deport them and shut them all down

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//I don't recall anything inscribed in the Christian Bible advocating death to all non-believers and inciting others to participate in violence against everyone else who doesn't practice Christianity?

In fact whatever fundamental flaws there may exist in Christianity, as far as I know there's nothing at all about harming others, whether they're believers or not ?//

Have you read it?

Deuteronomy 7:1-6
7 When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou;

2 And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the Lord be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.

5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire.

6 For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

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Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 11 October 2015 6:42:37 AM
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Deuteronomy 20:13-17

13 And when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:

14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee.

15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.

16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:

17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:

And so on: that's just a couple of examples from a single book of the Bible, not a comprehensive survey of its exhortations to violence because I don't have all day to sit about reading mouldy old religious tomes.

Of course, there's lots of stuff in the Bible about peace and love and all that too. The point is that the Bible - as with most religious texts - has all sorts of stuff in it, and if you have the time and the patience you can cherry-pick quotes from it to support any position imaginable. As I've pointed out before, the Westboro Baptist Church and the Uniting Church of Australia are poles apart but they both profess to be Christian and they both back up their theology with reference to the same Bible. They can do this because they cherry-pick the bits that support their views and ignore the stuff that does not.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 11 October 2015 6:43:35 AM
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Doog, so UPF are peaceful protestors aren't they?
And they're not "Racists" either, are they?
And their supporters are almost all from Bendigo, even the anti Racist spokeswoman admitted as much to the ABC.
See the only time violence has occurred is when the pro Islam groups have attacked the so called patriots or tried to prevent people from getting into UPF demonstrations, when the counter protest withdrew to the town hall many of the Police were stood down and allowed to go and have a rest in the shade, what does that tell you?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 11 October 2015 6:47:11 AM
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A very unnecessary commotion for the town. The wine festival was cancelled. Choppers circling the CBD It cost Bendigo 500,000 $ and who pays for the Choppers.

You say leftists on one side is it a political match up. I know the far right are against Muslim’s of any description Mr Abbott confirmed that with his rhetoric. I thought he may have been in your group yesterday. We will see what comes out in tomorrow’s paper, to get a reporters view of events. Did the CBD operate or did they close for the day
Posted by doog, Sunday, 11 October 2015 6:55:04 AM
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Doog the UPF rallied in Forest St and marched to their rally in Rosalind park, only the Anti Racists were on the city side of the creek.
All of the warnings of violence related to the Left because they still for some reason tolerate the ANTIFA and Stephen jolly's socialist contingent, they are the ones with the "outsider" problem, not the UPF.
Of the 150 or so Anti Racist protestors only about 30 were from Bendigo, about 75 came up on the train from Melbourne yesterday morning with ten Police on board to keep order, the rest came in by car or had arrived on Friday and stayed over.
Don't bother reading the Addy, they're not going to tell you the truth, here's some photos from yesterday.
http://www.facebook.com/unitedpatriotsfront/posts/185631471771313
You'd be surprised at the number of Aboriginal people supporting the UPF, I've met several at their rallies, I didn't understand it at first either but there you go.
The UPF rally had about 500 attendees, much the same as last time, the other side had about 150 but the crowd at the car park near the court house grew as people in town came for a sticky beak.
The UPF crowd, demographically was pretty representative of Bendigo's population, maybe 95% White and ranging in age from teenagers to pensioners.
This is pretty much the entire UPF "outside" element, they took up one table at the pub last night, though most of the people there are probably local well wishers:
http://www.facebook.com/unitedpatriotsfront/videos/185380238463103/
Now these are normal people doing normal things, out in the open, democratically and peacefully no?
Here's the pro Mosque side:
http://www.facebook.com/stopthemosque100914/photos/a.699083743514129.1073741828.699072080181962/908182122604289/?type=3&theater
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 11 October 2015 7:56:23 AM
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Doog,
This is footage of the only violent incident at yesterday's Anti Racism rally, the Anti Racists hate being filmed, they guy in the leather jacket was photographing them and they attacked him and took his camera. He is told to get back by the Police, resists and is dealt with:
http://www.facebook.com/stopthemosque100914/videos/908175779271590/
I don't know who he is, he's not known to Nationalists so given that he's carrying a camera bag he's probably just a freelance photographer or an amateur out for some good shots for his collection.
This is what the Left are like though, a Channel Seven reporter was punched in the face at the July rally in Melbourne and several passers by who basically looked at the Anti Racists the wrong way were thrown to the ground and set upon.
Doog Mayor Cox is a liar, Fairfax and WIN are liars and the No Room For Racism group are like a hardcoremore street gang trying to attract and incite violent, angry people than political movement, you can believe who you want but this isn't going away.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 11 October 2015 8:19:53 AM
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