Why is a true liberal getting Liberal voters on here in a flap. I only assume they vote Liberal. Hasbeen with "It must be obvious Labor & the slimeball (Turnbull) were made for each other. Hasbeen as some said at the time Ronald Reagan was a communists, or was that Ronald McDonald, I always get them two confused. Its all a matter of perspective, and where you sit on the political spectrum, is it nice out there sitting on the extreme right with Beach and Genghis Khan.
Beach continues to nut on about the Greens, with Greens leader Richard Di Natale "being white-anted by that nasty (non existent) Watermelon faction." I must talk to the wrong people, so far in NSW all I have got from fellow Greens is they like him, I'll let you know after I hear him speak in Sydney next month.

mikk; "If turdbull becomes leader does that mean I can call him an assassin and death squad member" sure can, all's fare in love and politics! Abbott can say what he likes.
Quoting one Liberal MP ""People left [Parliament] last week like stunned mullets and are not sure what this week will bring. The government's problems run deep."

Back to the topic, can I ask, what should Liberal voters who can't stand Turnbull going to do, I he is leader come next election? PUP's turned to PULP and Pauline is back in her fish and chip shop.

Now why would the govt wish to change leaders?

Er....?

Oh yes.....

"Inside the Prime Minister's inner circle, they tell themselves that they can win the next election because Bill Shorten is so hopeless.

They've told themselves that 166 times in a row; that's the number of consecutive polls since the government was ahead in any of them.That's counting all the surveys conducted by all six national pollsters, according to the research consultant John Stirton."

No-one lies and misleads parliament like Tony Abbott.

Here's the latest of his whoppers to be blown out of the water:

"When it comes to Australia's largest coal mine, the Abbott government has a difficult relationship with the truth. If you haven't heard, Australia is under siege from a new kind of eco-warrior, one with a manual and money for legal challenges designed to endlessly frustrate economic development.

At the centre of this battle is the proposed Carmichael coal mine in Queensland. The mega mine, led by Indian billionaire Gautam Adani, has had its federal environmental approval set aside. Why? Because a Queensland environment group – the Mackay Conservation Group – exercised its legal rights and used a federal court challenge to expose a flaw in the government's assessment of that project."

"This is a project that will create 10,000 jobs." Prime Minister Tony Abbott, question time, Tuesday, August 18"

(Govt spokesmen have been unfurling this load of cobblers every time they've been asked, but good old Tones doesn't flinch from taking the opportunity to mislead parliament)

Here's the reality:

"This number, straight out of Adani's press material, was challenged in a separate Queensland land court case in April this year by Adani's own expert, Jerome Fahrer from ACIL Allen. Dr Fahrer conceded 1464 jobs would be created. What's more, Adani has been laying off workers, as Fairfax Media revealed recently, including its project manager Parsons Brinckerhoff and most of the staff in its Brisbane office."

That's 1464 jobs to be created over thirty years.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/tony-abbott-sinks-lower-than-bill-shorten-in-fairfax-ipsos-poll-20150816-gj0ber.html#ixzz3jJDaEnoj

That's the kind of integrity Hasbeen's pin-up boy, Abbott, displays...wonder why the wheels are falling off the govt jalopy.

Sorry...left one of the links out above.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/adani-mine-a-20b-project-creating-10000-jobs-the-abbott-governments-myths-busted-20150819-gj2u2o.html

A Poirot you left on lie out. The indians are currently connecting their poorer areas to the grid so they can have electricity. So much for Abbott's coal for India plea.

Turnbull is the coalitions only hope of survival.

The impartial judge doing the stacked royal commission, is being talked about by the Gov; general, that will test his impartiality also.

The leaks are getting bigger and bigger, Abbott should take the hint and resign, after all he has no authority. A trigger for a DD election has been passed by legislators, so the possibilities are endless aren't they.

mikk,

You could certainly call Turnbull those things. So would I. In fact, I think of him in those terms now! He is certainly determined to harm Abbott, and he will even continue to try to get the Coalition kicked out, so enormous is his ego and his thirst for power. Turnbull would be happy to serve as leader (he would lead anything) of the opposition before he became PM. He thinks he is smart, but he is utterly transparent.

Paul,

In answer to you question, if Turnbull took over, I would cast an informal vote, unless a genuine conservative stood in my electorate, but that is highly unlikely.

Gosh, what sly dogs some are, posing as being concerned for a glorious future for their hated adversaries the LNP, but really fearing the leader they also say is their (leftists) best chance of ever winning an election after the Rudd-> Galah'd + treacherous Greens-> Rudd again, debacles.

Marxist cunning.

Anyhow to use a term of Marxist origin (Greens Watermelons would snap to attention), commodification, which the leftists rather love having had their red-headed wonder commodify air and tax the public for it, their poster boy Malcolm Turnbull would be the number one choice today of anyone interested in commodification.

Mind you, the jury would be out on who would get the prize as the pollie with the mostest where endless commodification to relieve the public of their hard-earned is concerned.

That Italian-suited, antique clock collecting Keating of 'Banana Republic' (ill-)fame would come in first most exasperated taxpayers would say.

The greasy-haired, teared-up Bodgie who also lives the millionaire life could have given Keating a run, but he was hobbled by his attraction to other more colourful pursuits.

There are some very short memories around here.