Lol! I love the advert above for "All Gay Cruises" being used on this thread!

O Sung Wu, I apologize for my rude outburst above, as I don't really think you are ignorant. Others are though, and I just get frustrated with the lies.

We need to decide this gay marriage issue once and for all, or it will just drag on.
I think this Government and it's boring old holy Patriarch need to pull their dummy out and just allow gay marriage, rather than spend millions on a referendum.
We don't have the money for that.....apparently?

Hi there PAUL1405...

Because I'm (personally) uncomfortable with the notion that an unnatural sexual act (sodomy) between two adult males, should be considered an insufficient reason to permit a traditional marriage - I'm homophobic, a bigoted, old fashioned, 'whatever' ?

What exactly is my offence ? I just can't see where it is that I'm a bigot ? I'd certainly value your opinion please Paul.

'Because I'm (personally) uncomfortable with the notion that an unnatural sexual act (sodomy) between two adult males, should be considered an insufficient reason to permit a traditional marriage - I'm homophobic, a bigoted, old fashioned, 'whatever' ? '

come on O sung you know its because Paul says so and Bill Shorten says. Such model citizens! How could they possibly be wrong? What would kids who have been deprived a mother in life know?

Dear O Sung Wu,

If we
judged people's ability to marry by the way they
have sex -
that would probably discount quite a few people of all
persuasions. Targeting people on the basis of how they
have sex and who they love - doesn't make sense.

I read an interesting article recently that raised the
following points.

Today, any credible poll
shows an ever increasing, comfortable majority support
for the recognition of same-sex marriage in this country.
All that was being asked of our Prime Minister was to allow
his MPs and Senators to vote on the issue from their
conscience - a "free vote." This "free vote," has been denied
to the Liberal MPs and Senators -
by the PM and the most conservative elements of the Liberal and
National Parties.

We're told that this issue is about more than just
homosexual couples who want to get married. It is also about
Australia declaring whether or not it is ok for us to set
these people apart as - different, unequal, and lesser.

We're told that it is about youth who are struggling to
come to terms with their sexuality, who doubt and even hate
themselves. It is about the disproportionately high rates
of mental health risks for people like so many heart-breaking
number of Gays who have taken their own lives simply because
of who they were and who they loved.

It's about kids of loving families to whom our nation says -
"You aren't part of a real family." Like Penny Wong, her
partner Sophie and their two daughters or the PM's sister,
her partner, and her family.

We're told that this is what Gay activists and so many
Australians are fighting for.

We're also told that opposition to this is an endorsement of
discrimination. It says - "You are different. You are wrong.
You are not as good as we are."

We all can merely go according to our
own consciences on this issue.

It would be a real democracy -
if our PM allowed his MPs and Senators the same privilege.

Hi there SUSEONLINE...

Thank you very much for your very kind words, I REALLY appreciate them ! I accept, I'm pretty old fashioned, for that I'm sorry. Nevertheless I do appreciate the intent of your words very much.

G'day there RUNNER...

Mate I don't know ? Perhaps I'm just too old fashioned, and believe in my old values too rigidly ? Values I've had inculcated thoroughly into my thinking at a very early age, and values I still believe in most strongly today, right or wrong, moral or immoral ?

I realise long after I'm gone, the masses will continue to move forward, and human morality will continue to decline until what ? How far will our standards of morality be allowed to slip, before our learned, medical and intellectual ethicists, realise we've made a huge mistake, and urge us all to, make haste and immediately correct it ?

You can be sure that the agenda of the homosexual lobby will lead to more suicide not diminish it. Only the totally gullible falls now for lying manipulative lobby that tries to demonise anyone opposing those not supporting their views. Did anyone question Gillard how many suicides she caused by supporting the marriage act. We know that Labour/Greens saw over 1000 drowned thanks to their pig headedness. The deviants who want to brainwash the kids will produce far more suicides than those teaching decency.