Hi there YUYUTSU...

" Sigh " - Well, if the government can't or won't monitor and act to halt the burgeoning moral decline within Society, who can and will ? Most of us accept that in today's enlightened society, the churches have all but lost, most of the moral authority some of them once held. So who do we turn too, now ?

What you say is perfectly correct, governments of all political colours, are themselves, bereft of any morality of any consequence ? So what will become of humanity if we continue to allow it to slide ever so far into the abyss of complete immorality, where anything goes ?

YUYUTSU my friend - in my years with the coppers I've seen things happen, that even now, I still can't reconcile in my own mind ? Not only occurrences of a depraved sexual nature, but crimes of such violence, that even 'Attila the Hun' would never contemplate ?

Finally, at the risk of receiving another verbal belting - call me homophobic or whatever, but there's still no congruency in my own mind, that a homosexual union between two adult males, that amounts to sodomy, an unnatural act, is the basis for a traditional marriage ? After all the act of sodomy in itself, is against the laws of nature ?

And to counter the argument, what a heterosexual couple do in the privacy of their own bedroom, is entirely their business; I couldn't agree more with that proposition, to be sure.

Fox,

Once again you demonstrate the default position of the leftist extremists who are dominating the debate and demanding radical change to the Marriage Act with nothing else being acceptable.

You cannot dispute that these are often the same radicals who for years and way back to the previous Millenium where the feminists are concerned, have been trashing and undermining the institution of marriage and family, fatherhood and even breastfeeding.

It isn't just about public recognition of homosexual 'love' now is it? Not for those leftist radicals it isn't.

Unlike most homosexuals who can take it or leave it (mainly leave it) and would very much prefer not to have the Big State interfering in their private lives, the leftist radicals will be using the changed Marriage Act (if government is foolish enough to change it) as a means of pursuing their extreme leftist activism.

This video on the Canadian experience is relevant and sobering.
http://www.therebel.media/canada_legalized_gay_marriage

otb,

Once again you demonstrate the default position of
the right-wing blowhards by your usual shoe-horning
of everything to "extremism," and "radicalisation."
This time you left out "cultural Marxism."
And then you leave us with another of your "gems" -
a video by Rebel Media - a Canadian conservative
political and social media platform that emulates
American conservative - Glenn Beck.

Relevant and sobering?

Yeah Right!

Fox,

You can't deny the facts then and diversion is your knee-jerk reaction.

otb,

Another knee-jerk reaction and attempt at digression.

You have not presented any facts.

Sweeping generalisations, vague concepts, rigid stereotyped
terms - irrational, inconsistent and illogical statements
do not count as facts. And, Shoe-horning everything that doesn't
agree with your point of view to "extremism," and "radicalism,"
and quoting from American, British, and Canadian conservative
political websites presents only a very limited world view.

Lead by a homophobic reactionary right, some Cultural Nazi's are predicting all sorts of dire consequences when Australia finally falls into line with other western democracies and amends the present discriminatory marriage laws. it is no longer a question of if, but when, these well overdue changes will come into effect. No matter how much the reactionary Tony Abbott tries to fight a rear guard action to forestall the inevitable, change will come.
OTB the leading forum regressive, like others in the wider community tries to argue a change to the marriage act will some how be the thin edge of the wedge and open a dangerous can of worms with unforeseen consequences for society at large. Nothing could be further from the truth. Naturally over time progressive change to discriminatory laws and practices will have to be made, this is nothing more than achieving balance within society.
In OTB's YouTube, a Canadian homophobic and christian fundamentalists gave an example of discrimination, where a bigoted anti gay christian group had been fined for refusing to hire their hall to a gay couple to celebrate their marriage, a hall which they had advertised for public hire. This refusal was done for no other reason that to satisfy the prejudice of the homophobic Christians, and rightly the court found this practice to be no longer tolerable and illegal in a fair society. Hopefully others with similar predigest will learn from this kind of example and mend their ways in future, we can only hope.