Family Violence Royal Commission started in Melbourne on Monday July 13, lasting 4 weeks.
ABC television journalist (tweet: @damn43) states: 70,000 complaints to police last year in Victoria alone.
What's going to happen is many selected working class people will tell their stories; government selected psychology professionals will tell their stories and analysts theories based on government education's psychological books prescribed diagnoses.
By having a “hearing”, labelling the hearing “royal commission”, to aid some appearance of an “independent authority from government influence”, means nothing to me. Documentary histories of royal behaviours have shown royalty as less than honest.

School's year 10 and 12 Gold Coast celebrations have media news often showing teenagers brawling in the streets.
Teenager education is very mentally stressful. Psychology theory should state “mental stress does strange thinks to children”.
For more information Google: bipolar; cortisol stress hippocampous; Little Albert. From these 3 search pages more information links can be found.
There exists several psychology forums where information could be read.

I argue that government certified education, causing increasing mental stress over a minimum of 11 years of pretend learning has a purpose of natural selection non-thinking robot intelligence truck driver employment skills. Students whom are least traumatised, succeed in better employment. Test scores provide more of a reflection of how students cope with preparation for examination mental stress than students' ability to think. Education is a working class education, not a thinker's education.
Childhood, teenager education and evening competitive, relationship dramatised television have working class workers conditioned to be bipolar. Bipolar symptoms are periods of joyous enthusiasm and angry mood swings.

A royal commission into family violence will not consider government education as a family violence main cause. Because most children attend schools, schools and political news dramas are brainwashing generations into believing what they are told by authority. Populations are scanning their brains for answers to support what they already believe, rather than populations thinking of the years of mental stress they experienced, that schooling allowed populations to be less than intelligent humans as they could have been without mentally stressful schooling.

On the same Monday July 13, ABC1 television breakfast program, a statement on priests molesting children, “the church can't be trusted to investigate itself”. A government and or governor commissioned Royal Commission isn't going to allow an important brainwashing and natural selection employment tool' education to be exposed. A royal commission may redirect human intelligent ideas away from mentally stressful education and television program themes as being a cause of family violence.
A women shown on July 13, Monday morning ABC1 television, talking about the family violence royal commission said she only wanted to expose the extent of family violence in the community.

July 13, Monday morning Royal Commission opening address spokes woman Marcia Neave said, “we are a different kind of royal commission... our task is not to undertake a forensic (she stuttered) investigate about a cause or occurrence of a particular event”.
The royal commission is going to listen yet they're not going to do anything other than provide individual counselling to people whom require counselling. Any recommendations coming from the royal commission “hearing” directed at a government will, over time, most probably be ignored as governments (the establishment) knew exactly what they are doing.

Governments get to justify their existence by looking concerned about trying to solve a problem, that governments themselves don't want people to realise governments are responsible for a concerning problem.

Steve,
The risk factors for domestic violence depend mainly upon race/ethnic background,poverty, substance abuse and mental illness, having read extensively on the issue I've never come across any information which would tend to support your assertions. I watched the live stream until the lunch break on Monday and found it to be little more than a history lesson on the path taken by Victorian authorities toward the present family violence policies in law enforcement and social work.

Has there ever been a list of what constitutes family violence.

When you say family violence you automatically think of females being mal treated. Surely that is not always the case.

Royal Commission into family violence? What a joke that would be. The fools who adopted Spock and other ideologies are reaping the fruit of their stupidity. Surely no one is dumb enough not to see that the breakdown of the natural family and the total lack of discipline for children has led to dramatic increases in violence. The Judges would first need to see that their idiotic anti family policies have fueled this problem. They are not fit to look into 'family'violence.

Runner has a valid point. Just about everything that can go wrong with families is happening. We live in an anti-family period. Families have always been the backone of a decent, democratic society; but now, and for about two decades, social engineering by people wanting control of the West (they are insiders, not from outside our society) is gradually breaking down family structure. Single parent famiies; open slather for promiscuity rather than commitment; encouraging loss of self-control and personal responsibility; promoting "equality" for homosexuality, and just about anything that is against family values, including the acceptance as normal that more and more people are rejecting the 'til-death-do-us part side of the marriage vows. It's OK for an aging man to turn his back on a wife who is showing wear and tear (doesn't matter what he looks like, though) Now, in retaliation, we have cougars! Domestic violence stems from frustration, brought on by unrealistic expectations and beliefs peddled by social wreckers.

Domestic violence has been in existence for a very long time, and is just as likely to happen within a supposedly happy, middle to upper class household as it is in amongst lower socioeconomic homes, so don't pretend it doesn't happen in 'normal' family homes.

Runner, your holier than all scolding of the evils of today's naughty families is all rubbish. The amount of domestic violence years ago just was never reported as it is today. When speaking to many elderly people, as I do in my job, they often talk of the 'beltings' they and their mothers received at the hands of their drunken father's when they were young. And they were predominantly white, Christian families.

Before condemning this Royal Commission into Domestic Violence outright, why not wait and see what they come up with? Surely even a small improvement in what is currently happening out there in the suburbs would be worth waiting for?

The same process was used for child sexual abuse, and that has led to some previously unknown paedophiles to be brought to justice, and allowed many damaged people to finally have their say.
I think it is a good idea to have this Royal Commission.

Suseonline, "Domestic violence ..is just as likely to happen within a supposedly happy, middle to upper class household as it is in amongst lower socioeconomic homes, so don't pretend it doesn't happen in 'normal' family homes"

Horses' apples. Where is your evidence?

Don't you say you are involved in community health and affecting indigenous and migrants?

Do you say that Indigenous women have the same incidence of domestic violence and DV resulting in death as other women?

Of course differences might be expected among different socio-economic groups, different ethnicities and so on.

What is needed is a move away from the discredited feminist concentration on gender.

Your ideology would ensure that resources are not allocated where they are needed.

OTB, I would say there have been more non-indigenous women killed in domestic violence incidents than indigenous, purely because the non-indigenous population is much larger.
Or, maybe we just don't hear about the indigenous women's deaths?

In any case, I refuse to trawl through the mostly unhelpful statistics on domestic violence deaths again to prove my valid points, but you go right ahead and prove me wrong if you like. Knock yourself out.

Those darn feminists!
What would you would have to whine about if it wasn't for them.....

'In any case, I refuse to trawl through the mostly unhelpful statistics on domestic violence deaths again to prove my valid points'

no Susie because simply it would show how dishonest your dogmas and conclusions are.

• The effects of family violence are broad, impacting on the individual experiencing abuse, children who are exposed to the violence and the wider community.
• Indigenous women are 45 times more likely to experience family and domestic violence compared to non-Indigenous women and make up 50% of Australia’s domestic and family violence victims (Ferrante, 1996).
• Women with disabilities, like their non-disabled counterparts are wives, girlfriends, daughters, sisters, lovers, carers and mothers and ‘regardless of age, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation or class, women with disabilities are assaulted, raped and abused at a rate of at least two times greater than non-disabled women (WWDA, 1998).
• Women who are from culturally and linguistically diverse backgrounds face a range of complex issues. Their needs are complex due to the different reasons for their arrival in Australia, the different experiences they have had prior to their arrival and their varying levels of cultural adaptation to their new country. They are susceptible to isolation and therefore particularly vulnerable to family and domestic violence.
• Older women, homosexual women, women who suffer from substance abuse, homeless women, young women and the children of these women are all groups of special need. Domestic and family violence has detrimental physical, psychological and financial consequences for both individuals and the wider community.

Everything you find says who is most likely to be involved in family violence: but it does not say what causes family violence to arise.

Here we go...ho hum...

Another runner two-line run-by ad hominem.

Suse's dogmas are "dishonest" - as are her conclusions.

.....according to runner.

Who "never" includes an an argument in his posts.

Who always jumps onto OLO merely to insult and impugn his opponents.

On seeing teenagers' end of schooling celebrations. Media news stories showing teenager violent drunken behaviour should be looked at as reasons for the last days of schooling mental stress traumas. Teenagers drinking alcohol are medicating their educational traumas. Drunken behaviours are my thought out beliefs as being primarily caused by government sponsored education. Poor behaviours are due to a poor education system that's using mental stress trauma to natural selection a mostly manual labour (truck driving example) work force.
Mental stress over children lives causes children to do strange things that over time can cause mental illness. By saying no recorded evidence to prove the above, actually supports my beliefs that unwanted information is not available for reading.
8 to 6 hours of daily work; several hours of media news per night of political propaganda; crime; good verse evil; concerning stories, brainwashes populations. Not surprisingly comments are more redirecting, using old media opinions, rather than taking the time to consider my conclusions.

I agree Doog, it is frustrating we don't have more answers re the causes of family violence. Maybe this Royal Comission will find answers. I hope so.

Certainly indigenous and migrant women cop the brunt of this violence, although I did see on one site that actual numbers of indigenous female deaths in Australia due to family violence are less than other female deaths.

That reason is of course that the population of indigenous women in Australia is less than non-indigenous women. Of course they are proportionally far more likely to be physically bashed or hurt in other ways than non-indigenous women.

I never remembered where I found that site now of course, so according to others I must therefore be lying.

It does seem difficult to me to find the statistics on the genders/race/numbers of homicide victims of family violence though, so maybe I am looking in the wrong places?

Sus;
The causes must come out or we will never get to any turnaround at all. There is no respect of women any more. Society has become separated, with couples living single lives.
I would tend to blame it on kids not having any life skills, To many parts of life are left up to the individual to find out for themselves.
How can anyone advise kids about drugs if the parents are involved themselves. Voilence in the house or anywhere else by either side has no place around kids, it’s monkey see monkey do, and the kids mentor has lost credibility.
Alcohol and money: must play big offenders, either to little or too much. That is where I believe in a house accountant and budgeter. The tendency to live solo lives probably doesn’t allow for such wisdom.
The sex lives of violent relationships has got to come to light also.
The R/C can only be a good thing, I suspect in a lot of cases the damage would have been done beyond repair. If it saves future marriages or relationships it would be worthwhile

I agree with that Doog, although I tend to think that alcohol and drugs are to blame in most cases, but not all. In indigenous communities where alcohol was restricted, incidents of family violence decreased.

It seems to be a pattern that runs in families for some of it's members. Where a family has a violent parent or two, at least some of the kids tend to carry on this violent behaviour in their own families later on. They need to determine why only one family member, and not all the children, may be violent as an adult.
There is obviously some other factors involved other than simply repeating this violence that they have seen in their childhood?

@Suseonline, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 1:40:36 AM

As you very well know, or should know from replies you would have received prior on this forum alone, it is the political correctness of Multiculturalism that works to prevent the collection and analysis of numbers to deliberately conceal anything that might be construed as reflecting negatively on that policy (multiculturalism) and the incomes and careers associated with it.

To take an example of the practical effects and self-censoring forced by the extreme multiculturalism that pervades, in the hunt for the dangerous offenders who gang-raped tourists at gunpoint, the hand-wringers of the leftist media and multicultural lobbyists were offended and strongly criticised authorities for describing the men as as indigenous. -No concern for the public risk of the armed offenders at large in a stolen car. Just demands for the description to be dropped.

Pleased to see however that for this thread at least you have now moved from putting all men into the same basket, which does victims NO good whatsoever in obtaining the support needed to address the crimes committed against them.

Your earlier post and my reply refer,
Suseonline, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 6:09:28 PM
onthebeach, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 6:58:38 PM

You are never wrong though, even where you are forced to backflip. LOL

Just talking about Aborigines, this article is informative,

The Cultural Roots of Aboriginal Violence
http://tinyurl.com/pnbprc6

More for others who are concerned about understanding contributing causes and real evidence, not leftist mantras, particularly shabby rad feminist mantras from the previous Millenium.

You of course have previously vowed never to read evidence that might challenge your concrete and steel world opinion. So be it.

You are wrong OTB.
I have never agreed with the police media not giving out full descriptions of offenders, particularly violent offenders.

The only evidence I don't care to see is that which is provided by misogynistic men like you.
So you might as well save yourself the bother of posting links.....

//The fools who adopted Spock and other ideologies are reaping the fruit of their stupidity.//

Spock? Really? It's science fiction, runner. With the emphasis on the fiction part.

Nobody really believes in the Teachings of Surak, in exactly the same way that nobody who writes 'Jedi' on their census actually believes they can use the Force. It seems to me that you're taking light entertainment far too seriously. Let us hope that you never watch 'Dr. Who'; if a man was to try and interpret that literally he'd have to tie his brain into a Gordian Knot, and that wouldn't be pretty.

Live long and prosper, runner of Australia.

Suseonline,

To state the rather obvious again, since you continue to duck, it is the systemic and well-entrenched political correctness that prevails in Australia that works to prevent the collection and analysis of numbers to deliberately conceal anything that might be construed as reflecting negatively on that policy (multiculturalism) and the incomes and careers associated with it.

Toni,
He's talking about Benjamin Spock, as you well know:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Spock

The scattergun approach of the Royal Commission guarantees its failure to make a scrap of difference.

Drugs are the cause. Men are the cause. Women are the cause. This or that race is the cause. Place of residence is the cause. Gambling is the cause. Alcohol is the cause. Etc. etc. etc. Nothing will happen to reduce any of them.

All this sidesteps the actual cause of ALL violent crime, domestic or otherwise: Violent criminals. Those that do violence obviously cause violence. Without them doing violence there would be no violence. So the challenge is to stop violent criminals committing violent crime.

So lock them up. For decades. Under harsh and inexpensive conditions. No excuses - drug problem, gambling problem, anger problem, frustrated sense of entitlement, clumsy nappy training - whatever. One size fits all.

What the Royal Commission can do is to explore and identify ways of making sure all violent criminals are caught and locked up for a substantial proportion of the rest of their lives.