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Barnaby Joyce's withdrawal from Q&A

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Some persons refuse to see the fact that the party in power gets the criticism, when required. The news items are there to get critisised about.
Abbott is a very different type of polition, unlike any other ever seen in Australia.
With his core response to go it alone on his agenda, of dumbing down critisism. and a what i say goes and should be put into law.
I always thought he was in the wrong political party. He is far to hard to the right to be a liberal, he's more like a Chairman Mao.
Posted by doog, Thursday, 9 July 2015 12:48:17 PM
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Fox,

You missed your calling and should have been a priest with your moralising sermons ending in non-sequitors.

It is always easy to know when you have run out of excuses and rationalisations, in this case for the redundant, tiresome, gossiping, whiney old hag that is Q&A.

Q&A promotes itself as "Democracy in action". What a laugh. Complete bollocks of course, it is top-down elitism and manipulated 'gotcha' moments to put the hated 'white'(sic) 'conservatives' in place.

It is the smug, educated middle class 'Progressive', 'we-always-know-what-is best-for-you' elitism that the public found so patronising and offensive from the scolding, self-centered, greedy, self-occupied feminists of the previous Millenium. The parallel is no surprise.

Time for the ABC to return to its roots and lose the plethora of over-paid personalities who forget that they are the servants paid for by taxpayers and that it is they themselves who are accountable.

The grass roots will be holding politicians responsible next election. It all adds up. The public is aware of the one lane bridges on Highway One that are taking decades to fix and the queues outside hospital EDs. Meanwhile, money taken from taxpayers is being squandered giving a podium to convicted felons to disrespect the elected representatives for sport and give oxygen to outlandish slurs against the Australian people.

$1.3billion p.a. of taxpayer money.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 9 July 2015 12:58:49 PM
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Actually the ABC costs each of us -
a mere - 14 cents a day. (Google it) So we really can't
complain about it being excessive. We get
value for money whichever way you slice it.

And, as David F., brilliantly pointed out some time ago -
there are two ways to argue.

One is presenting one's opinion as fact.
Which some people consistently do all the time.
And secondly - false labelling. Again
which some people consistently do all the time.

If one expects to be taken seriously in any
discussion - one should really provide some evidence
to substantiate one's claims. Otherwise they will simply
be treated as the usual ranting and raving of a narrow-minded
bigot.

But, I hear tell it's allright to be a bigot -
in certain quarters.
Though not on the ABC.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 9 July 2015 1:21:47 PM
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Propaganda is best served when people don't realise stories contain influencing ideas. The separation between the media and government using embarrassing entertaining easily understood stories, allows separation between governments and media beliefs to be reinforced.
If people could realise anecdotal stories persuade, what could be lies to become truths, than populations could be least likely to be tricked out of items of value, than if population understood how propaganda works.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 9 July 2015 1:36:54 PM
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"It is the smug, educated middle class 'Progressive', 'we-always-know-what-is best-for-you' elitism that the public found so patronising and offensive from the scolding, self-centered, greedy, self-occupied feminists of the previous Millenium. The parallel is no surprise."

Go for it, otb....

Are you holding up supporters of this deceptive, ramshackle, debacle-strewn govt as some kind of honourable alternative.

If this govt represents the polar opposite of progressives...what should we make of that?

Why shouldn't we scold when we're confronted by lying, cunning and shameless coterie of govt politicians who are trashing the values inherent in the Western tradition and have morphed from representing true conservatism into a radical neoliberal rabble who every day are making more of a mess.

(btw, As of July, govt debt has increased to $371 billion - up from $273 billion at the time of the last election....just sayin')
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 9 July 2015 1:56:48 PM
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I think i see, if you get paid by govt; you have to be mindful of who you upset, The truth has nothing to do with it.
You can bet whatever the ABC puts to air is the choice public opinion.
Some people think liberal voters only have the opinions of the coalition. Most people make up their minds of what is going to air after they have seen and digested the story.
Abbott tells his party what way to vote, where is the opinion in that. They are robotic soles, aren't they.
Posted by doog, Thursday, 9 July 2015 2:39:51 PM
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