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Posted by ConservativeHippie, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 2:03:46 PM
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Fox,
Would it be this Wendy Bacon and was she ever linked with the Greens? If so, in what roles? http://www.takver.com/history/sydney/indexsl.htm Are there any alternative views of Lee Rhiannon's interests and activism? -Because Rhiannon is a figure who has generated considerable controversy and precious little of it positive or flattering, over the years. (Previous) Greens Leader Bob Brown had a lot of difficulties with Rhiannon's politics, http://tinyurl.com/4h6bw5h You would want balance wouldn't you, being someone who would sledge a PM for allegedly thinking about hitting a wall way back in his student days? Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 2:14:45 PM
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Dear CH,
I can only go on the evidence that I have found regarding Senator Lee Rhiannon. As for Putin? History will judge him - and his actions in the Ukraine are a major concern. Whenever Russia cannot manage its economy - it steals from its neighbours by "liberating" them. This has been going on for centuries. V.I. Lenin made it clear that, in his political philosophy, law has but one primary goal: "A law is a political measure, it is politics." No Soviet authority or communist leader has ever abandoned this concept. It has been applied in the territories "liberated" by the Bolsheviks during the October revolution, in the Captive Nations occupied by the Red Army during World War II, and in the lands won by military force or "wars of liberation" in Asia, Africa, the Far East, and the Caribbean. Once the Russians get a foothold in Eastern Ukraine - they will expand. No wonder the Baltic States are currently very nervous. And the same threat applies to all the former Communist-occupied regions. In addition, Finland isn't safe either - being on the border. And we're only talking about Western Russia - Eastern Russia is another story. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 2:25:04 PM
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otb,
If you want to know more about Professor Wendy Bacon - you can Google her biography for yourself. All I know is that she was awarded the Walkley Award (for journalism) in 1984 for her study on police corruption in NSW. As for my "sledging" Mr Abbott for his university days behaviour. That is wrong. He did that all by himself. I was merely reporting facts as given by David Marr - in his publication, "Political Animal: The Making of Tony Abbott," and those complaints against Mr Abbott were also covered in the media at the time - and were well known amongst students on campus. Barbara Ramjan was the lady that Mr Abbott came up to within an inch of her nose and punched the wall on either side of her head, after she beat him hands down for the Presidency of the Students Representative Council. Mr Abbott went into the university election and lost - to a woman. It was his own behaviour that "sledged" him. In any case if you want any more information - and you don't like the facts currently being presented - all I can politely suggest is that you find appropriate sources that appeal to your sense of "balance." There are plenty of those listed on the web. Andrew Bolt comes to mind. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 2:53:33 PM
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cont'd ...
otb, I forgot to remind you - your request for "alternative" views on any given subject can't really be taken seriously because you are someone who consistently presents only one narrow point of view on any given issue. You never present any "alternative" views on anything. You only present views that agree with yours. So you can't ask others to do what you're not capable of doing yourself. However, if you genuinely want a "balance," on this forum - it is up to you to also set the example. It will be interesting to see if you are capable of putting your money where your mouth is. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 3:39:31 PM
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Foxy
Wendy Bacon that wrote the "green wash" article in the left whinge ABC blog clearly left a lot out. From the Australian, none of which LR denies: "When the CPA split with the Soviet Union in the wake of its brutal 1968 crushing of the Prague Spring and moves by its leader, Alexander Dubcek, towards "socialism with a human face", Rhiannon and her parents stayed loyal to Moscow. They later joined the breakaway, pro-Soviet and Soviet-funded Socialist Party of Australia when it was formed at the end of 1971. "She became a senior office-bearer of the youth wing, serving on the central committee's youth subcommittee; attended Australia-Soviet Friendship Society meetings; and developed close relations with Soviet, Czechoslovak and East German communist youth groups," Aarons recounted in an article last year. "In 1977, Rhiannon led an SPA delegation to Moscow at the invitation of Leonid Brezhnev's neo-Stalinist regime." Rhiannon edited the pro-Soviet and Soviet-supported monthly magazine Survey, founded by her father, from his retirement in 1988 until it ceased publication, staying at the helm even after the fall of the Berlin Wall. She sought to downplay her involvement with the publication after it was detailed in The Weekend Australian last year, telling the Ten Network she merely "assisted with it to some extent", even though issues of Survey clearly identify her as its editor and she signed the notice in the final issue announcing it would close. But Rhiannon has refused to recant her support for the Soviet Union during a period marked by intervention in Poland to suppress the independent Solidarity trade union, heightened persecution of Soviet Jews and gross abuses of psychiatry as a tool of political repression." This was no simple association by a naive young LR, she was in it up to her neck. Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 3:56:24 PM
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"Rhiannon makes no secret of her family’s political history. She condemns the appalling crimes of Stalin while remaining proud of her political family for their work for peace and the rights of their fellow citizens."
I think even Putin would probably denounce Stalin's atrocities, rather than be seen to support them.