Cont..

But back to the main issue and we should include Shadow Minister at this point.

Whatever you think of them Christian fundamentalist churches are very comfortably with doomsday predictions, so the notion the world and humanity are facing an existential threat from the excesses of the human race is actually right from their playbook. Perhaps you should acquaint yourself with one of Time's 100 most influential people from last year. Katherine Hayhoe is both a climate scientist and an evangalist Christian.
http://time.com/70881/katharine-hayhoe-2014-time-100/

Secondly their focus on the asylum seeker issue may be born primarily from looking to support Christians fleeing persecutions from the various religious or political regimes but if you think they are buying into Abbott's take on the issue you are sorely mistaken. Many of the churches in my area, including the one I attended for the funeral, are caring for and mentoring recently arrived refugees. The are also active in refugee camps on a private basis in a number of countries.

The issue of gay marriage is one area that they perhaps have a reasonable affinity with the stance of the PM, but given a large majority of other Australians who are impatient for this country to stand up and be counted on a reform that is obviously going to come there is little consolation for him.

Poirot,

The comment on second thread was just after the first thread, and was referring back to your redneck comment, and it was a comment on your beliefs.

You had no justification for your comment and it was deliberately false. I have not used the 90% in any context outside the issue of illegal boats.

If you want to look through the polling of the last few years knock yourself out. In 2008 when KRudd stuffed it, the polling from the ABC indicated a >80% support for strong border controls. in 2013 it was well into the high eighties.

SOL,

I think the PM made a valid point. Q&A relies on having the odd token conservative. Remove them and all you have is a dreary cluster of left whingers agreeing with each other.

As a left whinger, I would have thought withdrawing support to effect change was a standard tool of change in your bag.

SM,

I was prompted to make my comment because again I saw you using the 90% argument - on a different thread on a different subject.

We had just had an exchange over ABC bias...as in:

"Considering that only the far left whingers think that the ABC is unbiased, I think that pretty much settles it.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 9 July 2015 6:49:53 PM"

"Considering that only the far right whingers think that the ABC is biased, I think that pretty much settles it.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 9 July 2015 8:54:17 PM

Poirot,

From your view point 90% of people are far right wing.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 9 July 2015 9:47:38 PM"

In three consecutive posts.

And now you say you were referring to boats!

What's this?...

"If you want to look through the polling of the last few years knock yourself out. In 2008 when KRudd stuffed it, the polling from the ABC indicated a >80% support for strong border controls. in 2013 it was well into the high eighties."

Apart from the fact that in that paragraph there doesn't seem to a "90%" in sight....why are you harking back to 2008?

Here's what you said to me a few posts ago:

"You stuffed up, you claimed that those believing in tough border controls were rednecks. Based on recent polls I noted that made the arrogant and pompous claim that nearly 90% of Australians were rednecks. "

That's "...based on recent polls..."

So I thought well perhaps SM has a "recent" poll up his sleeve - and I'll ask him to link me to it.

Nup.....He's only got a bit of nebulous waffle concerning 2008 and 2013 - and nothing mentioning 90%.

(Also noting that you've conveniently altered it "nearly 90%" to back up your slowly dwindling case)

I mean you're the one who spouted outrage, took me to task and called me a liar - all over a throwaway line of mine referencing your 90%...which is why I've pursued this at all.

SM, give it up so we can all get on with the actual subject of the thread!

If you, from the hysterical right, want to call me a 'left whinger' because I don't like having any PM, from any party, trying to force a TV show to only allow who he wants to come on, and say what he wants them to say, then I will continue to whinge.....

What makes Q&A such a good program is not only the topics, but the interesting people on the panel, from all sides. Imagine a panel made up entirely of Tony Abbott glove puppets. Tonights panel is not all that interesting, but if it consisted of Phony Tony and 4 glove puppets, Piers Akerman, Warren Truss, Miranda Devine and David Flint all being moderated by Bronwyn Bishop, with the topic "Tony why are you such a great guy?" I along with 90% (the infamous 90% that is) of regular viewers will be tuned into reruns of 'I Love Lucy' on channel 17. The only viewer will be Shadow Minister taking notes of any derogatory comment by the lefty panelists against his dearly beloved Tony for referral to the Royal Commission into Tony Haters.