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Will we ever achieve reconciliation?

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Dear O Sung Wu,

I fully understand how you feel.

Here's something to make you smile
a little:

"There are 4 kinds of people to avoid in the world:
the assholes, the asswipes, the ass-kissers, and
those that just will sh++t all over you."
(Anthony Liccione).
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 8:09:49 PM
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Fox,
Charming.

o sung wu,

The Aboriginals who lived on our family properties were nothing like the ‘long grassers’ that the originally well-intentioned but very foolish Whitlam policies encouraged and rapidly increased in number.

On the family farms and all over the district there many Aboriginal workers who moved in and out of farm worker housing and flexed that and their work to suit their lifestyle. It was usual for them to go bush for varying times when they were in a mood to do so. As well, there were some and those with younger children who preferred to send down roots.

The long grassers who regularly tried to move in on our local indigenous were rebuffed. They were in smaller numbers then. Country police knew the difference and control had not been lost.

It was when Whitlam created the victim industry that things went pear-shaped and there were thousands of usually men who found it easier to bludge, bully and create strife while on sit-down money, believing they were victims themselves (and while using a boot or steel picket on their women).

To settle a point of concern, it wasn't the mainstream indigenous, mainstream society or you/'we' who created the problem of alcohol. It was the left-overs from the leftist human rights activists (serial protesters, Marxist and Anarchist, who were so often working against the mainstream there too with their lawlessness and secondary agendas) who were finding life boring without 'authority' to challenge. They were the cows in the China Shop, ignorantly, arrogantly, tipping the baby out with the bath water, for instance to allow alcohol in the self managing communities that resulted from Whitlam. The Black Curtain of the self managing communities already hid corruption, fraud and violence - to which more and legal booze was added.

As can be expected, the same arrogant, uninformed, ideology-driven, egocentric leftists would never admit the unforeseen negative consequences of their idealism, lobbying, political blackmail and interference. -Not to mention the $$ from the guvvy careers and grants, the lifeblood of these unethical leftists and diverted from indigenous projects and services.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 11 June 2015 1:34:04 PM
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Wow - what a revelation!

And such a simple solution to solving all of our problems.

Mr Abbott, Mr Murdoch, take note:

It's the arrogant, uninformed, ideology-driven,
ego-centric (left out self-loathing), leftists,
marxists, anarchists, with their lawlessness
and secondary agendas, that are the root of
all the problems.

Perhaps if we stopped giving them those high-paying
jobs and perks, they might have less influence and do less
damage.

Why not give the humble, informed, not ideology-driven,
idealistic,fully transparent, right-wingers, a chance.
They all march in step after all.

They're not arrogant, uninformed or ideology-driven
or even ego-centric and they certainly do not have secondary
agendas - as this country's history has shown.

The Solution is therefore simple -
all we need do is elect a Prime
Minister of that ilk and see what kind of a job he and
his team can do.

Wait ...
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 11 June 2015 4:02:43 PM
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Hi OTB,

I know where you're coming from. As a life-member of the left, however, I have to defend some of us from your charges. Like some others, such as Dr Phillip Nitschke, we went up to a settlement in the early seventies, full of very different aspirations from those you describe - as fervent believers in economic self-determination as the cornerstone of any genuine self-determination, my wife as a volunteer to open and run the pre-school centre there, me as a fruit-picker to bring in some income, and getting a vegetable garden going.

But soon enough, we found what you described. Within ten years, a fairly healthy economic base had been wound down to almost nothing, and the last I saw of the place, three years ago or so, there was only one family still there: after CDEP was closed by the Howard government in about 2006, there was no point to staying out there if it was merely the principal means of getting unemployment benefit for nothing, so it appears that people have simply scattered into the various Riverland towns, to pick up the new version of CDEP/UB in more congenial surroundings. The orchard which had been planted in about 1982, at the expense of everything else, employing two instead of an earlier twenty, and funded by a loan-turned-grant (of course), was dead. It's a heart-wrenching thing to see 300 acres of trees, all dead.

Would I put my faith in the God of Self-Determination ever again ? Don't even bother asking.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 11 June 2015 4:03:43 PM
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otb,

Charming?

I'm so glad that I've been able to
"charm" you into considering your
world in a different way.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 11 June 2015 4:35:36 PM
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One of the many dilemmas for the 'progressives'

Aussie of the year wants harder penalties for domestic violence.
Amnesty wants less Indigeneous in prison.
Progressives wants culture to be respected and encouraged.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 11 June 2015 5:04:49 PM
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