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What will homosexual marriage mean for Ireland?
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Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 30 May 2015 9:51:21 AM
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Even if homosexuals relationship be called marriage by the State, it will never constitute equality of the relationship of a husband and wife. Therefore a biological and sacred term need to be applied to that relationship to restate it to its original meaning. The term marriage will become a loose term just meaning, love between two persons living together and not adequately define the term of the biological family.
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 30 May 2015 10:44:16 AM
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u r right Josephus just like calling people in defacto relationships partners does not change the fact they r living in sin. The changing of language in order to make what is abhorrent more palatable just gives people false security. Interesting we have a man who was accused of rape, then divorced,part of the sleazy union movement now trying to win political points by moralising. says it all
Posted by runner, Saturday, 30 May 2015 11:47:35 AM
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Though runner at least De'facto heterosexual couples if committed for life conform to scripture pre Roman times when the State got involved.
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 30 May 2015 1:25:02 PM
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Watch out Josephus, your good mate Runner won't like you promoting sex outside of marriage for any reason.
Maybe the good book doesn't feel that unmarried sex is as bad a sin as gay sex then? Oh dear, I doubt Runner would concur with that radical idea. I was wondering why we all have to live by the dubious morals of this ancient book, written by mere humans, especially if we don't believe in any of the gods that others imagine are there? Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 30 May 2015 1:42:30 PM
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Josephus,
Openly Gay men do have happy marriages to women as well, I met just such a couple about two weeks ago when working on their house, the husband while a nice enough chap was the fruitiest character you'd ever meet. When I arrived to start the job he was the only one home and I just thought, he's Gay, whatever, he's rich and eccentric and he's paying me to install these new mantlepieces, no big deal. Then later on an older woman arrived, we had a brief conversation and I took her to be his housekeeper or secretary, but lo! It turns out she was his wife of many years. If you read authors like Robert Oscar Lopez they will say that many men grow out of homosexuality in their late twenties but many find themselves stuck in the lifestyle because they've "come out" in their teens and society now regards them as Gay. The pro Gay research also shows that in 15-21 year olds same sex attraction or at least curiosity is present in about 8% of young people, however in those over 21 it's around 1.6% for men and slightly higher for women, so clearly most people do grow out of it and coming out as a teen might not be the best course of action..but heck, I've got kids, trying to explain to them how present actions influence future prospects isn't always easy. Foxy's post is true up to a point, there will always be a minority of people with complex and unorthodox personal lives and we need not concern ourselves with them unless it affects us personally. What marriage equality aims to do is end this diversity but as I said, the best laid plans of bourgeois mice and men eh? Every social engineering experiment the upper classes try almost always has the exact opposite effect to the proposals debated and ratified in parliament, look at multiculturalism. Here's Robert Lopez' blog, this is a pretty cutting article but he says what the majority of people really think: http://englishmanif.blogspot.com.au/2015/05/my-favorite-things-to-expect-when-gay.html Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 30 May 2015 2:19:12 PM
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When my nephew was in Iraq the bisexual Iraqi men there said, "men are for pleasure women are for babies", and they were only married to women for life and men were for casual sex. They had no sense of financial responsibility to other men only their wives and family. This similarly among bisexual men in Africa spread AIDS, as it has done in Australia. Because of this fact of the spread of disease is the reason the Christian scriptures forbid it. It is a health issue recognised by many religious cultures.