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World looking to copy Australia's boat turn around success.
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Posted by Foxy, Friday, 15 May 2015 10:56:12 PM
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SM,
I'd be surprised if anything came of the "meetings" and requests - as European countries still appear to take themselves seriously in their roles as signatories to various conventions - unlike Australia. Your link is paywalled, but I think it was from the 6th May. This from the 4th May http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/aust-in-contact-with-europe-over-boats-pm/story-e6frfku9-1227334002348# "But Commission spokeswoman Natasha Bertaud said in Brussels that she was "not aware" of any European-Australian contacts on asylum seekers. She said "the European Union applies the principle of non-refoulement," or no forced return under international law. "We have no intention of changing this. So of course the Australian model can never be a model for us," Bertaud added." Although here's another plug for govt policy from Julie Bishop: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/julie-bishop-confirms-european-boats-plea/story-fn9hm1gu-1227352471973 Even UKIP leader, Nigel Farage though Oz policy was a bridge too far - "....Is he endorsing immigration detention, detention of children, forced pushbacks? Farage made it clear he was not. “Some of the ways that Australia acts on these things,” he said, “are tougher than we in Britain can perhaps stomach.”" http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/apr/24/tony-abbott-hes-too-tough-on-immigration-for-me-says-nigel-farage It is kinda interesting from an irony POV to see all the migrants pouring into Europe from the former Middle-Eastern and African colonies, etc....interesting times. Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 16 May 2015 1:19:41 AM
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Foxy,
Considering that most of the news of people drowning and boats in distress came from sources other than the navy, the chances of boats sinking without any distress calls is pretty much zero. This level of feigned stupidity is too much. Given that the Rudd like approach to boats has led to a massive loss of life in the order of 10s of 1000s appalled Europeans are looking for a workable solution, especially as most EU countries are not taking these migrants from Italy. P, I am aware that the EU is presently saying that it won't adopt the Aus solution, but my experience is that they will keep on denying it right up until they do it. Remember how Labor categorically stated that boat turnarounds were impossible. Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 16 May 2015 4:29:06 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,
I'm not really keen to indulge in the usual finger-pointing exercise. Neither major political party's history in the treatment of asylum seekers is anything to be proud of as Prof. Gillian Triggs pointed out in her report. As the UN and Human Rights Organisations have pointed out - Australia's treatment of asylum seekers to date has been shameful. Even our Foreign Minister Julie Bishop casts doubt on the PM's "stop the boats" policy. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/foreign-minister-julie-bishop-casts-doubt-on-prime-ministers-stop-the-boats-polcy-for-european-nations-20150422-1mr6ub.html Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 16 May 2015 11:54:26 AM
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'morning Foxy,
"Even our Foreign Minister Julie Bishop casts doubt on the PM's "stop the boats" policy". What a load of old cobblers, you deliberately missed out the rest of that headline which actually reads; " Foreign Minister Julie Bishop casts doubt on Prime Minister's 'stop-the-boats' policy for European nations". JB is suggesting that our policy might not be appropriate for the EU. Nothing to do with casting doubt on the success of "Stop the boats policy" for Australia. You are rapidly degenerating into a vexatious poster with declining credibility. Your narrow, self referential values, your refusal to debate the very content you launch, your endless supply of Unicorns and diversions, your total dependence on only those links that sustain your personal perspectives and your refusal to acknowledge that these perspectives cost 1,500 lives, are possibly the reasons you are being targeted by adult OLOer's. You lack shame, you are a "seemer", you wish to be "seen" to exhibit compassion but it is political rather than genuinely humanitarian. Hipocrisy reigns supreme in your closed world and you can no longer sustain your own feel good values. You deserve everything you get from now on! Posted by spindoc, Saturday, 16 May 2015 1:07:06 PM
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I think most people would know that the ideology held by people like Professor Triggs adds more to the problem than solves it. Selective facts, seeing guns where their were no guns just happened to fit her narrative. In the private sector she would be out of a job.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 16 May 2015 1:17:53 PM
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Me having a "hissy-fit?"
Not at all.
Just trying to calm you down and understand you.
After all you were the one into name-calling on
the other discussion and talking about radio
signals and other planets on this one.