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Jihadi John

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Conservativehippie: Advocating death for non-believers is not appropriate in a modern world (including the Muslim countries).

Which brings me to some Questions for our friend here.

Some quotes from your Koran.

Koran 9:123: “O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allâh is with those who are the pious.”

Koran 9:73
Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their Home: an evil fate.

8:39- And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease, then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do.[Translation Pickthal]

8:12- When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger. [Translation Pickthal]

In light of these verses & many others similar, Iftikhar, Would you mind answering these questions?

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Posted by Jayb, Monday, 30 March 2015 11:20:32 AM
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1) Do you consider a Secularphile to be an extremist who spreads hate against non-moslem unbelievers? "Yes" or "No."

2) Do you agree that; All people in the UK must become moslems,
Sharia Law must be implemented in the UK

Homosexuals & Adulters must be whipped & stoned in the UK,

All Women in the UK must wear the face Burka or similar covering.

Do you want these things for the UK? “Yes or “No.”

3) Persecution & Oppression does that mean anything that moslems declare as Persecution or Oppression, is, to Islam. E.g.:

Refusal to allow a moslem to marry & consummate that marriage with a child under the age of 16,

Refusal to be allowed to build a Mosque,

Refusal to move a Pig farm after a Mosque is build on the neighbouring land,

Refusing to grant a special day for moslems & screen off an area for moslem women at the Local Swimming Pool,

Refusal to put a screen around the Local Pool because the sight of so many naked bodies is offensive to moslems.

Refusing to pay to have a food declared Halal.

Declaring that the Burka, or other such women's clothing to be inhumane.

Declaring that, Sharia Law, is forbidden in the UK.

Declaring that a moslem can only have one wife.

Does refusing any of the above list mean that moslems are being Persecuted, Oppressed or that a “State of War” exists? “Yes” or “No.”

I look forward to your answers in the spirit of "your" statement in the interest of expanding my knowledge.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 30 March 2015 11:23:06 AM
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'Religious indoctrination of any kind should not be the job of the public schools. '

Yes David f we have seen the perverted results of decades of irreligous teachings in the State run systems. Teen depression, suicide, homosexuality promoted, drug overdoses. As a taxpayer I end up paying more taxes for this godless vomit produced by godlessness.
Posted by runner, Monday, 30 March 2015 12:43:39 PM
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Dear runner,

You probably want the public schools to teach your religion - not the Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist or other non-Christian religions. I don't think teaching any religion on taxpayer money can be justified. Why should taxpayers of Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist or other non-Christian religions pay taxes so their children can be indoctrinated in your religion? Would you like your children indoctrinated in any non-Christian religion?

Public schools should be for all children regardless of their parent's religious beliefs or lack of them.

Hopefully humanity will free itself from all superstition including yours.
Posted by david f, Monday, 30 March 2015 1:23:18 PM
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Iftikhar>> It is the West that stirred the trouble that led to 9/11. That attack was a desperate act of by men prepared to lose their life.<<

Muslims had nothing to do with 911 except filling the headlines and sound bites.......it was a Zionist operation......

Re the Muslim radicals....go, fight, die........who cares......simple souls with 7th century political views.........sick of Muslims with stone age attitudes......
Posted by sonofgloin, Monday, 30 March 2015 6:03:37 PM
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Ifitikah, I would like your opinion on the following people;

Anjem Choudary, (Judge Sharia Law Courts (UK),
Dr Zaku Naik, (Persident of Islamic Research Foundation),
Siraj, Wahhaj, (Leader of the Islamic Alliance, ISNA Board Member),
Maulana A.K. Hoosen (Noted Islamic Scholar),
Kalid Yasen (ISNA Board of Directers),
Jusuf Estes (Islamic Cleric & Speaker)

Would you consider these people to be well known & upstanding people in the Islamic World?

Simple question. Yes or No is all I require. Please try not to go off in a waffle of deflection as it is very, very annoying.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 30 March 2015 8:03:38 PM
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