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Are 'Heroes' Still Required to be Heroic?

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Dear O Sung Wu,

Yes, however "scum" does come in all shapes
and sizes and has been a part of this
country for decades:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/late-night-commuters-unite-against-racist-and-hateful-rant/story-fnat79vb-1226618579561

And -

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/police-remove-train-passenger-after-racial-abuse-on-melbourne-train/story-fniOfit3-1227157794733

And there's heaps more incidents on the web if you care to
Google them.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 3:50:18 PM
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Fox,

You continually 'out' yourself a would-be foreigner in the country that your parents would have seen as a welcoming sanctuary from the mayhem, deprivation and disgust of that displaced persons camp following WW2. By contrast, Sweden, a country so often lauded by Oz leftists and feminists threw its refugee Lithuanians out of the country as soon as possible.

The one-eyed stereotyping, abuse and general sledging of Australians is restricted as all realise to those of 'white' heritage, presumed Anglo-Saxon and from the UK. -From whence we inherited those splendid democratic traditions, free speech and association, tolerance and acceptance that encouraged us to take in peoples fleeing WW2 and its aftermath, and hundreds of thousands since then.

Goodness knows how the senses of the self-loathing, culturally-cringing 'Progressive' leftists are so acute that they can unfailingly and so easily identify the particular 'whites' they love to despise and feel superior to.

It is tedious how you and others take your lead from self-promoting 'Progressive' cultural elitists like Phillip Adams -a bogus, unconvincing leftie and serial, self-centered bore. Honestly, what is with the ABC that it has so many like him on the teat for decades, riding wagons that the wheels fell off years ago?

"How to be a moral poseur - a mere Man of Seeming, blind to the Doing - as demonstrated by the ABC’s Phillip Adams.."
http://tinyurl.com/lsohu8m

You turn a blind eye to the imported (Pakistan) toxic political system, culture and values that resulted in thousands of young girls being raped, trafficked for sex, introduced to hard drugs and hundreds impregnated by their abusers in Rotherham and other centres in the UK which like Australia has been pursuing diversity.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 4:51:22 PM
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FOXY...

I'm fully aware of all this absolute 'bogan' behaviour, more so than you I'd respectfully suggest, as it was us, the coppers who had to handle this type of racist criminality, and at the same time, endeavour to 'keep the peace'.

It was also the coppers that had to literally safeguard the ordinary working men and women through some of the 'no go' areas of Liverpool, Cabramatta and Fairfield (Vietnamese gangs) and Bankstown, because many ethnic men had established those areas, in Bankstown especially, as theirs, to the total exclusion of even an unaccompanied uniformed police constable, not so many years ago. Personally my own beliefs, notwithstanding an individuals private disposition towards some ethnicities, they need to keep it strictly to themselves in public. That goes for BOTH 'camps' !

So please FOXY, don't try to set yourself up as some sort of self-imposed moral guardian or arbiter, scrutinizing and examining every word, phrase or sentence, to ensure the contributor didn't dare deviate from the narrow moral parameters that you've established ?

It's also within the coppers purview to try to contain inflammatory racists language in public (also a crime) - Please remember, it goes BOTH ways, it takes two hands to clap FOXY ?
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 5:19:36 PM
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otb,

We have been over this ground many times in the
past and you again display your total ignorance
on subjects you know nothing about.

I have no intention of responding to you any
further on these matters and I do not care to
discuss them any further with you.

Dear O Sung Wu,

Yes, I agree, it must have been unpleasant for you to have to
deal with the "scum" of our society as a police-officer.
But as I stated earlier - "scum" does come in various
forms.
It is equally not very pleasant to be abused on
public transport simply because of your different
physical appearance,
the language you speak, of anything else, that makes you
different from the norm.

We need to have a discussion about how we can fix this
problem which appears to be growing according to media
reports, and what we can do to fix it so that everybody
can have the tolerant, peaceful, society that we all want
to live in
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 8:06:54 PM
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Foxy I suggest you don't take your kindly attitude on a train from the Sydney city to Bankstown, or Cabramatta/Liverpool. It would be dangerous to your health.

I would also suggest you don't go to Penrith. Gangs of African youth, some of those refugees & their progeny we have been silly enough to take in, roam the streets, & small numbers of light skinned people are at risk.

It really is time sweaty you faced facts. We have taken in some very disagreeable people of various ethnicity, & many are now paying a great price for others generosity.

It appears that bleeding hearts just can't get through their heads, that the difference between oppressors & the oppressed. Those you have felt sorry for, & want to bring here would be the same as their oppressors, the moment they gained ascendency.

Here, once they learn we really don't enforce our laws with them, they become totally feral, & really dangerous wherever they are in numbers.

Anyone who can not see this, is deliberately shutting their eyes.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 11:07:12 PM
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Hasbeen, if you traveled on public transport as often as I do, (Sydney's buses and trains most days of the week). The vast majority of people of all nationalities do the following; they get on the train, they sit down quietly (depending on seat availability), they get off the train, end of story. Trouble makers are not significant in number, but they are a problem, and they have to be dealt with, no question. My own son is a Sydney public bus driver, and he tells stories of trouble makers, and not surprisingly they come from all ethnic backgrounds, and socio-economic groups. His biggest gripe is 'smart ass' high school kids often Anglo-Saxon from private schools.

What I can not abide with is this stereo-typing and generalising of people who com to this country, and do not forget the vast majority are invited here by us, they do not arrive by boats uninvited. When you have a relatively large number of migrants like we do, you have to expect and deal with a few bad apples, we got it post WWII with Southern European and British migrants, and we get it now with Middle Eastern and Asian migrants, nothing has really changed, just coming from different locations.

Do you want to reject all migrants because some are bad, or do you want to work to overcome the obvious problems and make for a better Australia. For some, even some who post here, they have an unreal uncompromising attitude, the "Fortress Australia" attitude, which in totally unrealistic in the modern world of today. Australia cannot, and will not, exists in happy isolation. You can forget that dream, it went in 1788.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 19 March 2015 7:12:11 AM
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