Crowie, I'm with you. If you can't demonstrate that you are taking steps to live a healthy life, then you pay. I also suggest a 20% levy on all junk food.

Robert, what would make you decide to raise a family in a country that you knew you could not afford?

This is one of our greatest problems here, where we have so many willingly spitting out kids knowing damned well they can't afford to raise them, then whining and bitching because the subsidies, provided by others, is insufficient to provide for their kids, and often their own pleasures/ habits.

The coalitions health policy can not be copied or printed for some reason. Butch and co; you know what you say will never happen,health complaints are all caused from legal substance. Whether they are any good for you or not doesn’t count they are legal. Obesity is a fault that needs rectifying, that is ones own fault. Tell Abbott about it and he will put a fat tax on it, even though he said no new taxes.
If you think Abbott gets a lot of criticizing it’s because of his own fault. Do you think

Yes 579, he does suffer from foot in mouth at times, but just look at the mess he has inherited. He feels he must fix the budget and stop the bleeding, but he is being hog tied.

Personally I think we can't loose because option one is we get his tough ways through, or option two, we go back to labor and keep borrowing and let the next generations to follow worry about it. I can't see a third option, can you!

579, an Abbott (Reg) government party meeting when discussing the Senate (Romans) goes a lot like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9foi342LXQE

Crikey dopey Abbott cant even govern properly after a landslide victory so imagine the mess if he had convinced the independents to support him in 2010.
Oh well, after the next election Labor will back in power with Julie Bishop as Opposition leader so lets hope that she's not as hopeless as Abbott turned out to be.

Paul Abbott to a t.
Butch
Tough ways, the ways are not reasonable, that is why he can't get legislation on his side, and rightly so.

And you don,t think Abbott is borrowing, our deficit has moved along in leaps and bounds, and it's all because of Abbott and Credlin's policy's,
which were so far over the top they can-not be passed.

It will take realistic budget measures for any thing to pass senate. The last fiasco was the end, to announce a commencement date and not even inform his backbench is a disgrace and unforgivable.

As a nation we can not go on like this, we need leadership, not cowboy policy and indecision