Hi there IS MISE & JAYB...

Once upon a time I'd drink anything, as long as it's wet ! I was telling a bloke I know, about the Millers brew, he reckons he'd never heard of it ? True it was an acquired taste, something like Tooths old I thought ? Back when they were very well known, Miller's had a string of modern styled Hotels, many with big lounges, with top musical acts performing in most of them. Over the years they seem to have slowly disappeared, or they may've been bought out by another Brewer perhaps, I really don't know ?

I've again departed from the Topic at hand, for that I'm very sorry indeed DAVID F, it's a habit I have, that does tend to get up the collective noses of all who choose to read my threads ?

To the topic at hand, because Rye, Barley, Maize, even Hops are all those natural cereal type grains that require a substantial amount of sun and water in which to flourish, must be good for us as well ?Because we humans need similar ecological circumstances in which to prevail, otherwise we'll surely fall into ill health ? It's for this reason a small whisky is/was my preferred vehicle, in which to obtain my daily supplement of barley and rye. And to ensure I had adequate supply of hops in my system, I'd consume a small tipple of a boutique styled beer, over a period of time ?

So as you can see good people, I did treat my body as a 'Temple'? Furthermore I ensured that I always remained 'regular', without ever resorting to the extraordinary need of having the Commissioner's photograph firmly affixed behind the toilet door, an act of last resort it was thought !

Davidf - this one's for you:

Leonard Cohen - The Future (Lyrics)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnaxvBsyigM

davidf

Us old blokes tend to think in Imperial measures, a Pint was a large drinking vessel with a handle that was of one pint capacity,
"A pint of Old, please" to the barmaid produced a Pint filled with dark brown beer.
The same request today produces a large vessel with handle which is probably in some metric measure but looks the same as a Pint.

Dear Constance,

Thank you for that. Interesting lyrics. Could concentrate on them since I turned off the sound which I did not find pleasant. Bleak visions. Have never heard or read anything by Leonard Cohen before. Much prefer Cole Porter and the Gershwins. Much more pleasant to think of the time when I was a little boy with my grandmother or to enjoy where I am now, an old man living with an old woman who I love deeply.

Similar words to Leonard Cohen's have been around for a long time.

Jeremiah 4:18 Thy way and thy doings have procured these things unto thee; this is thy wickedness, because it is bitter, because it reacheth unto thine heart. 4:19 My bowels, my bowels! I am pained at my very heart; my heart maketh a noise in me; I cannot hold my peace, because thou hast heard, O my soul, the sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war. 4:20 Destruction upon destruction is cried; for the whole land is spoiled: suddenly are my tents spoiled, and my curtains in a moment.

The Bible does it more eloquently than Cohen, but I still like Porter and the Gershwins.

Thanks, Is Mise. Sounds great for old blokes.

Dear Josephus,

There are many non-Christian groups in Australia. How many of their gatherings or services have you attended? You might get acquainted with some of them, make friends and find out about their attitudes.