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Will Abbott Survive?

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'I'm the last person you should listen to.
As a follower of the teachings of Christ - His
teachings are what you should be following.
I am merely expressing an opinion. I'm no sage
or wise person. Just a humble sinner.

strange Foxy how u in judging me you were defending someone willing to trash Christ in his/her post.
Posted by runner, Friday, 7 November 2014 9:34:36 PM
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ConservativeHippie,

"Assimilation" as you put it: "to bring into conformity with the customs, attitudes, etc., of a group, nation, or the like; adapt or adjust."

I thought you would know that is simply not legal in Australia if a person is not breaking any Australian law to conform with anything, of any nature.

Some of the first Muslims that migrated to and settled in Australia were the Afghan camel drivers during the mid to late 19th century. The following website has an image of a tiny corrugated iron shed which is reputedly both the smallest and the oldest mosque in Australia.

http://www.aussietowns.com.au/town/bourke-nsw

So it is quite clear, that people of a Muslim background didn't just arrive in Australia for the first time, in say the last 20-30 years. Many Muslim people have benefited from their families (from the early camel drivers), and from that, being born in Australia in later generations.

"To assimilate the new immigrants, if that's a concept that offends you, you are welcome to move into one of the Muslim areas and see how far your vegetarian philosophy gets you." Your arguments simply don't steak up - because they are not legal - just like if I wanted to ban (a whole town or suburb) from eating meat, let alone getting them to move out of their own home - the courts wouldn't rule in my flavour!
Posted by NathanJ, Friday, 7 November 2014 11:07:01 PM
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o sung wu,
On page 3 you will find Foxy introduced the illegals issue and later the muslim matters by claiming we alienate them and suggesting we should be more compassionate.

Just from my observations, it seems muslim parents are very strict with the daughters but the boys have much more freedoms. They do as they please, go when and where they want and mix with whom they wish. Teachers tell me the boys are uncontrollable by female teachers. I have heard that the biggest users of porn sites are muslim males, yet muslims claim to be offended by girls in bikinis and call them whores. In your days were there not many 'working girls' in Canterbury Rd area, after muslim cliental.

I think a lot of conflict between anglo and muslim young males occurs because of the strict controls parents impose on muslim girls. They are not available to socialize so the boys try the anglo girls and get angry when their approaches are refused. But you wont alter muslim culture.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 7 November 2014 11:40:54 PM
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I lived and worked in Griffith, NSW, which has a large Italian population, even here there was tension with the Italians. The young males would date and go out with non-Italian women, but not marry them.

There was a trend for arranged Italian marriages to young women from Italy, who often had very poor english skills.

Again the girls were under very strict control, but the males tended to do what they wanted.

So this type of behaviour is not strictly limited to one group, but to many different groups within Australia.
Posted by Wolly B, Saturday, 8 November 2014 9:27:10 AM
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Dear oh dear.

I've recently had a wake-up call when I read an
article about a nine year old girl asking if they
(Muslims) were going to kill us?

It seems that some people listen to the news with the their
families and they're concerned about ISIS and burqas.

They don't bother to explain that ISIS are a terrorist
organisation and that most Muslims have lived in this
country for decades. Some are fifth generation Australians.
And are peaceful people.

Of course it doesn't help that Public Transport Victoria
has removed the rubbish bins at city and major country
stations in response to the "heightened terror alert."

Fear is creeping across the countryside like a cancer.
Last week in Lalor a Muslim woman's arm was broken after
she was pushed to the road in a sickening, unprovoked
racist attack.

Our federal government seems to be encouraging people to
turn against their neighbours with increasingly hysterical
rhetoric. This is a distraction from people dying in
detention centres, from a budget that punishes the
poorest, and as stated earlier from the contradiictions
between what the government claims to stand for (inclusive
'Team Australia') and what it does and is doing by whipping
up fear of Muslims through "terror alerts."

All this may win approval from certain sectors of the
community - but it is doing tremendous harm to decent
peace-loving people who have been part of this country
for decades. And that is sad for us all.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 8 November 2014 10:21:03 AM
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Foxy,

Take one part fear, one part bigotry, one part ignorance...mix well with a little govt constructed "terror hysteria".

Sprinkle via eager MSM over population and - Viola! - one section of the population demonised and further marginalised.

Thank you Mr Abbott and company for making Oz a little meaner than it had been previously.
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 8 November 2014 10:40:33 AM
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