Foxy said to me;
then you
clearly are biased and I make no apology for my
post on prejudice. If the shoe fits...

Hmmm, I wonder why ?
Yes strange, I am biased, I wonder if it is because I see what is happening
around the world.

Then we have apologists like Foxy, who will bend over backwards to avoid
seeing what is happening.
Foxy said;
People seem to associate ISIS with Muslims.
This needs to be corrected. ISIS is a Sunni extremist,
jihadist, unrecognised state, and self-proclaimed
caliphate based in Iraq and Syria.

Yes people do associate ISIS with muslims; I wonder why ?
Could it possibly be that they are moslims ?
Could it possibly be that Sunnis are moslims ?
Could it be that a Caliphate is a form of moslem political dictatorial government ?

It is the likes of Foxy that are protecting moslems, and are the real reason that
the politicians have gone to water.
That is not a dig at the Labour party but at all parties, especially the greens.

Frankly I fear for the country, I fear that we will have a civil war in the long run
and about the only people here that I see that will stand up to them are the Chinese.

Bazz,
The Chinese and the Indians are already fighting against Islamic insurgencies, as are Russia, The Phillipines, Burma and Thailand.
The word Sunni as I understand it can be translated as "fundamental" or "traditional" and the Koran permits Muslims to lie to non believers and apostates because it's taught that Allah has sealed their minds from the truth anyway.

Foxy,

Your thread on whether Abbott will survive is wishful thinking on your part. Threads with this theme have been abundant ever since he became leader of the liberals, and since Getup, labor and the unions have been running a smear campaign against him.

That Abbott is deeply unpopular among Labor voters is no surprise considering the thorough job he did in shredding Labor's credibility and humiliating two Labor PMs. The booing by labor bogans at the funeral is evidence of this.

The decision as to whether Abbott remains in power will be taken by the liberals with whom he is popular and respected. Julie Bishop is indeed extremely competent, and I would guess a future leader of the party. There is great contrast between her quiet competence and Juliar's populist incompetence.

Dear Shadow Minister,

I'm not sure where you get your facts from
however according to a recent poll conducted
by the Sydney Morning Herald voters when asked
who would be a better PM Tony Abbott or Julie
Bishop? Mr Abbott only managed 10 percent approval
whereas Julie Bishop received 90 percent.

Still, I agree that predicting the future is
a bit risky at the best of times.

Now to the topic of Muslims and ISIS.

Gentlemen,

I am not an "apologist" for Muslims - nor
am I ignoring what's happening overseas.
However, to compare Australia with either
the UK or Europe is not logical. They deal
with things totally differently and take
in much larger number than we do.

Australia
has always "erred on the side of caution,"
so to speak. From the "White Australia" government
policy - where the fears were that the
"yellow peril" would invade us from the North,
to post World War II immigration where
the government policy was one of mandatory "assimilation."

So the current fear-mongering is nothing new.
The targets change with politics.

What I object to is tarring all Muslims with the
same brush as ISIS extremists. That I do find
un-Australian. Where is the Australian sense of a
"fair go," where did that suddenly disappear to?

ISIS is not a recognised state - and they are a
globally recognised
terrorist organisation, and yes they may
be Sunnis but they have their own fanatical theological
interpretations of the Muslim religion - which differs greatly
from that of most Muslims. Anybody watch "Q and A," last
Monday evening where George Brandis faced the Muslim
Community in Bankstown?

Anyway, the current government has things under control,
so there should not exist the unwarranted encouragment
to people to turn against their neighbours and fellow
Australians.

Every human being deserves something better than having
their lives dismissed in a flood of simplistic rhetoric,
posturing and crass political point-serving.

The law will take care of the comparably small minority
of fundamentalists and extremists in this country, as
it has always done and will continue to do.

So Campbelli doesn't approve of the 'far right' comments. Boohoo.

Campbelli can't be bothered contributing a comment on the topic yet feels his opinion about other contributors is worth sharing. Guess that's it, those of us who aren't lefties or greenies (which makes us the far right) may as well sign off for good, so Campbelli and his mates can start a mutual admiration club.

Dear ConservativeHippie,

It may come as a surprise to you - but there are many
on this forum who are neither "Lefties," or "Greenies,"
people who actually vote for policies not parties.
However, the frustration is that the current government
provides
us with very little in the way of policies that make sense.
Hence the criticism.

BTW - For your information - this is a public forum
and there are many on this forum - who don't provide
much in the way of intelligent commentary or reasoned
debate. Still everyone is entitled to their opinion
(but not their facts). And slaming someone for simply
expressing an opinion - where there's so many others
doing the same thing - is not very balanced - and you
should know better. But then perhaps a nerve has been
touched. Hmmmmm.