A couple of weeks ago, all we heard from the left whingers is that the Allied attack on ISIS was pointless.

The point I was trying to convey with this thread is that not only is it not pointless, but there are now clear signs that it is working and that even in these early stages ISIS's previously successful strategies can be turned against them.

Kobani has instead of being yet another quick trophy for ISIS has trapped a large portion of its fighting force that is being steadily degraded from in front and above, with supply lines that are cut off. It faces obliteration or surrender if it stays, and a massacre if it tries to run across the open areas between towns.

Either way, it will suffer a public relations humiliation, and a weakened fighting force that now has to fend off an emboldened foe.

Dear Hippie,

<<Can you please explain what exactly that is supposed to mean>>

It means that if they were not fighting against the IS in Kobani, then you would be fighting them on the shores of Australia, desperate to protect your own family.

I can see no parallel at all between what Isis is doing and what the Germans did. The Germans were a highly educated nation that had the best weapons manufacturing industry in the world. the only thing they had in common with Isis was that they were ruthless.the germans fought against the Russians who also had a weapons manufacturing industry as well as a winter that very conveniently made life impossible for the Germans who were being attacked by this time from all sides by British air forces and the USA who had by now the greatest weapons industry the world has ever seen or hopefully will see. Isis is part an internal struggle no more and no less they are doomed and they were doomed from the start.

'morning Robbb,

You said "I can see no parallel at all between what Isis is doing and what the Germans did"

I have no doubt you can't see, that is because you fail to understand the difference between tactics and strategy.

SM is only identifying the "seeds of defeat" inherent in the ISIL strategy. Move fast, take what you need with you, long supply lines, isolation through delayed conquest, re supply, natural degradation of assets, declines in resources vs escalation in resource demands and limited escape options.

Of course you can''t understand and most of us also understand why, you are an idiot.

Watching the ABC on "my brother the terrorist" last night identified for me the fact ISIL ideology is based on a lie. That being they want to defeat the decadent Western Democracies while killing Muslims and minorities in Islamic controlled lands. They hold to a primitive ideology that sanctions murder of non compliant Muslims. I would believe since ISIL began in Syria and Kurdish are now attacked that more Muslims have been slaughtered than any amount of Western persons. They promote the lie they are Fighting America and Australia in their propagandize, but they are murdering innocent Muslims.

As shadowminister stated, the atrocities meted out to their captured
enemy will lead to ISIS's ultimate undoing, a huge error the German forces made was in the killing maiming and torturing of the Russian populace who fell into their hands. Huge numbers of Russians would have been glad to assist the Germans in the overthrow of Stalin's regime but the utter stupidity of the invading Nazi's in their murderous tactics would eliminate any prospect of conquering the Soviet Union and would finally lead to them losing the war.

cicero