Hey Foxy, I was out of Oz, sailing during most of Whitlam's time, so I had the advantage of observing the catastrophe from a distance, with the advantage distance, & not having to live it gives.

In your first paragraph I'm sure you meant that many of us still endure to this time.

Your list is eye opening. I must have missed a few, that did not make ABC news broadcasts at the time. I was not aware of the total of the future disasters he loaded us with.

Yep he most definitely saddled us with many expensive daydreams, which still damage our welfare. How one man could do so much damage so quickly, really is a mystery. No wonder I was shocked at how much more I had to earn to live in Oz, when I returned, than before I left.

Dear Hassie,

Our spiritual journey is the unlearning of
fear and prejudice.

I'm pleased that I was able to contribute in some small
way towards that end with you.

If Hasbeen suffered as result of Whitlam's reforms, we can conclude that he was and is not:

1. An Aboriginal or Asian Australian.

2. A woman.

3. A student from a poor family keen to go to university and better themselves.

4. In an unhappy marriage with no money for the legal action under the old system.

5. At risk of conscription.

6. A murderer.

7. A very sick poor person (or have family who were very sick and poor).

8. Someone who has benefited by trade with China.

9. Interested in the Arts.

If Hasbeen had to earn more after the Whitlam Government was elected, it was almost certainly due to the 1973 energy crisis and the subsequent 1973-4 worldwide stockmarket crash, which seem to have been due to the USA and Saudi Arabia, and not to Gough Whitlam.

Amazing, even those who hate Whitlam seem to credit him with superhuman powers! (Since nobody human has ever been able to sort out the USA/Middle East/oil conundrum.)

Gosh, Gough did all of those things in a little under three years? Marvellous.(sic) He didn't just tell everyone what they wanted to hear and spend like there was no tomorrow, while setting up those infernal victim and cultural cringe industries that drain the public purse?

OK, so why then did his own supporters vote overwhelmingly against him in the landslide election that booted him and his similarly erratic and self-serving ministers out of office?

Or did 'Murdoch' vote proxies for all of those lefties as well as being at fault for Gough Whitlam's huge mistakes and excesses?

Gough's legacy is the over-developed sense of entitlement of all of those middle class academics, professionals and bureaucrats who have made hay for years, their lifetimes in many cases, out of government that now interferes in every aspect of citizens' private lives.

As far as Aborigines are concerned it takes enormous gall and re-writing of history to overlook the awful terrorising and harm to women and children done in the communities walled off from media and public scrutiny by that thick black curtain of autonomy introduced by the well-meaning but misled Whitlam.

A better man would have turned around and admitted those mistakes.

What next? Re-write ex-PM Julia Whatsherbloodyname as the suffragette ahead of her time, a highly skilled communicator and internationalist who was victimised and finally deposed by that ruthless corporate boss, Rupert? What about Rudd as the most loved PM ever?

The stuff here and in the media is an absolute joke. One expects kindness towards the dead and in my opinion anyone who is prepared to take on public service is usually deserving of recognition, but there were jolly good and solid reasons why the Australian electorate rejected Whitlam and no amount of tears and rose-coloured glasses can dispel the factual record of his messes.

While I am on the subject, who are these (green?)leftist lunatics getting about who claim that Gough was generous after his lawful dismissal that he:

- admitted he had been give the Big A verbally and in a formal letter [ie that he didn't just carry on regardless(!)];

- didn't lead a revolution (the leader who was having extreme difficulty leading his own party); and

- didn't lead the military in a coup? (as if the military would have had a bar of that LOL).

Honestly, is there something in the water at those green left drinking holes (Green Fairy?), or are they all on crack cocaine (possible)? If any of these fools had any credibility at all they should be up on criminal charges and reviled by all.

Kevin Rudd summed things up rather well with
the following thoughts on Gough Whitlam -
that despite the many efforts of others over
the decades to tarnish and reduce Gough Whitlam's
legacies - they won't succeed because his profound
reforms have become sown deep in the hearts and
minds of most Australian people.

The negatrons and haters don't really matter. Nobody
knows their names. Whereas - Everyone knows Gough Whitlam.
His legacies have, and will endure.