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Vale Edward Gough Whitlam

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Foxy,

Yes, indeedy...I retweeted that!
(one of my followers)
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 12:45:47 PM
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'"...in honour of Gough, how about another Dismissal?"
a little slow ladies we have already seen Rudd/Gillard dismissed thankfully.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 1:01:13 PM
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Whitlam was damned lucky to be dismissed before the enormity of his disastrous policies became evident, such as the terrible violence that was to befall indigenous women, children and youth behind the dense black curtain that shielded indigenous communities from the prying eyes of the media (and the authorities too!).

What incredible gall and lies could re-write the apartheid of 'self-management' as anything positive? The destroyed careers and lives of many brave whistleblowers an finally the hem was lifted on the damage wrought by the ill-advised, ill-conceived 'Progressivism' that allowed ferocious, bent old men (and old women too!) to molest children, beat up women and youth, and waste and direct assets paid for by the taxpayer to their own use. How many whistleblowers and how many Australian National Audit reports, but all ignored by those 'Progressives', then and later? Shame, Whitlam, shame!

Education was mentioned by some here. No surprise there because it was the middle class that benefited hugely from that. The soy cafe latte 'Progressives' are middle class and middle class women were the main beneficiaries of Whitlam's education initiatives and other benefits that were supposed to be for the 'workers'. Frankly it is doubtful if any of the 'Progressive' Labor leaders ever went near a blue collar worker except for a photo opportunity in a pub.

Whitlam benefited the public service where there were enormous gains in numbers and staff levels - also where so many wives (later 'partners') and girlfriends were appointed and supported through study assistance, academia (plenty of well-paid academics all lefties and none concerned to be accountable for student outcomes) and the arts (where money flowed along with the Campari to celebrate the windfalls).

Whitlam founded the victim industries based on the 'isms' and again, the middle class, academics and professionals (social sciences) did handsomely well (and for their careers to follow as it turned out!).
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 1:53:29 PM
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Gee whiz - you obviously don't know many
middle-class women or academics - all the ones
that I've encountered have all worked full time, studied,
part time, raised families, and paid for their own education.
They've alao gained their positions based on merit and sheer
hard work. Perhaps you need to get out more into the real
world with real people before making sweeping statements and
generalisations. Of course one can only go by one's
experience but by the sound of it - your experience appears
to be very narrow and limited to say the least - unless of
course you're simply buying into the right-wing warrior rhetoric
and the murdoch news (which is limited). Especially if you think
that they're all latte drinkers (or chardonnay) or whatever
beverage seems to impress you greatly. You really are a
very insecure old chap - and as I told spindoc - you also have my
sympathy!

And talking about cronyism - boy oh boy - you should have been in
Victoria under Jeff Kennett - and also take a closer look at
the current mob - they want to have their cake and eat it too!
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 2:21:47 PM
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cont'd ...

All the rest of us want is not to lose the basics!
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 2:24:10 PM
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Foxy,

You don't have to boast about the burn you have given me along with Spindoc and countless others in the past.

What you do need to do however is address the countering arguments put to you - which you consistently fail to do, preferring to attack the man instead.

Gough was a Silvertail who flaunted his intellect and education. He was never inclined to listen to others, particularly when in full sail (almost always) and where his favourite hobby horses were at risk. He was in many ways the perfect 'Progressive', because Gough always presumed to know what was best for others. Then again, like all other 'Progressive' Labor leaders and 'Progressive' mighty mouths in the media, his rules for others never applied to himself.

That claimed International Socialism never got in the way of jet travel and staying in superior hotels in very, very nice places. The Ruddy Fool and Julia Whatsherbloody name (y'know, the one with the $2M to bungalow to roll around in) all lived high on the hog, had expensive tastes and knew how to direct the servants who tended to them, especially in that luxury PM jet.

Anyhow, has there ever been such a boom in government, in public services jobs and consultant hangers-on than when the Whitlam government was in charge of that bucket of public money that they thought would never run dry? They are centralists: Big Australia (voters for Labor), Big Government and endless State interference in provate lives. Oh, and endless cringing leftist 'diversity-we-have-to-have' multiculturalism to breed out those 'whites' they dislike so much.

Gough had far too much time in opposition and had created a fantasy. Imagine if you were the CEO of a sizeable company and you came across Gough as one of your senior regional managers. Without hesitation you'd put someone in charge of him with directions to keep the leash tight, wouldn't you?

Oz couldn't afford Gough and the huge costs of the 'isms' linger on.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 3:17:53 PM
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