Hi Wounded Goose,

Still, it's a deviation from the topic, which is, I thought, about the right to wear the nikab in public, but the restrictions on ALL face coverings in Parliament. My understanding is that Abbott supports the first but not the second. But he has no power over the President of the Senate, so his opinion in support of the nikab carries no more weight there than yours or mine.

But while we're off-topic, perhaps you may allow me to register my opposition to Netanyahu's land-grab: I don't think it is right, or helpful, or sensible in the current political situation in the Middle East.

I would support the withdrawal of ALL Jewish settlements on the West Bank, in order to facilitate a two-state solution.

But of course, it takes two to initiate a two-state solution: if Hamas or al Fatah launched any more attacks on Israel from Gaza or the West Bank, then in international law, Israel would be within its rights to retaliate. I hope that process can be avoided.

Now back to topic: I hope that no non-Muslim group of idiots ever tries some stupid stunt like disguising themselves in nikabs, getting into the public galleries of parliament, and heckling the MPs: this would do terrible damage to the reputations of innocent Muslima who wear the nikab and inhibit their right to wear whatever they like in public.

But although there's no accounting for stupidity, I hope nobody tries it.

Perhaps I've been mistaken ? This topic, like so many others, is actually about you ?

Cheers,

Joe

Loud Goose,

"Still, it's a deviation from the topic, which is, I thought, about the right to wear the nikab in public..."

You're such a hypocrite...what's this?

"Slightly off-topic: perhaps the same dumb-dumbs were involved in forging their addresses before the last elections, claiming to live in Indi when they didn't. Oy, how stupid can you get ? So after the election was called, and before voter registration closed three weeks or so later, these dumb-dumbs filled out registration forms, all neatly in a handful of files now, which the police can go through at their leisure, identifying frauds and preparing charges. One of them is supposed to have even been a lawyer."

.......

".....My understanding is that Abbott supports the first but not the second. But he has no power over the President of the Senate, so his opinion in support of the nikab carries no more weight there than yours or mine."

If you believe that the burqa ban wasn't cooked up at the top, then you "are" a goose.

Credlin calls the shots, as you know.

Credlin encouraged Christensen to make a submission to Bronnie on security grounds.

Credlin made a boo boo.

"I would support the withdrawal of ALL Jewish settlements on the West Bank, in order to facilitate a two-state solution."

Nice to hear...but Israel has its agenda - as is evidenced by Gaza, where a people are ostensibly penned into a ghetto and periodically slaughtered with advanced weaponry - while the West Bank is slowly gobbled up by Israel... don't hold yer breath.

"....I hope that no non-Muslim group of idiots ever tries some stupid stunt like disguising themselves in nikabs, getting into the public galleries of parliament, and heckling the MPs: this would do terrible damage to the reputations of innocent Muslima who wear the nikab and inhibit their right to wear whatever they like in public."

All you have as evidence for that "claim" is the govt scuttling to make excuses for its bad call. Seen any concrete evidence of such a plan - other than the "rumour" trumpeted by the govt

MM: Not one word of factual reality anywhere in his post. Just childish bigoted opinion,

My first paragraph is my opinion of a senario based on Conservativehippy's 2%. Nothing wrong with that, but very scary. Australia never had this potential problem before the moslems arrived in numbers. That is the gist of my post.

My second Paragraph on what I saw in London is definitely true. We stayed, for two weeks, at the Park West Apartments off Edgeware Road. Safeway is further down Edgeware Road towards Edgeware Station. It definitely an Arab Centre in London. We saw some amazing sights just in Edgeware Road. Outside Safeways there was always a lineup if Rolls Royces, Mercedes & BMW's & Arab men dripping with Gold chains & those dresses they wear. Inside the Arab women, usually in Black withall sorts of face coverings. Some of them straight out of a Masochistic Porno, others like Batmans companion Robin, Some with just their eyes showing. Didn't see any of the Burka type. Some of the women that you could see their face under a shear veil & some had a leather grills, one had a steel mask on. We saw that one at the Airport. Most were dripping with Gold chains & little charms from their ear to their nose, & around their eyes, & gold bangles on their arms & ankles.

To see these women being stopped by Store Security for shoplifting was very strange.

Lol!
I would just like to welcome Wounded Goose and Loud Goose to the forum this morning, and thank them for amusing me on this fine Sunday :)

Cheers,
Suse.

No Probs, Suse :)

So: everybody does have the right to wear whatever they like in public (apart from nudity that is), and that certainly includes nikabs, turbans and, in the right context, Speedos.

And in some contexts, face-coverings - full-face bikie helmets, balaklavas, hoodies, face-masks - are not encouraged in banks, houses of parliament, police stations, etc.

The question seems to be: should nikabs be allowed in parliamentary galleries ? Abbott says yes, but the President of the Senate, presumably on a vote of the Senate, says no.

Many of us would welcome your views on this subject, Suse :)

Joe

You can wear whatever you like as long as it doesn't offend the serially sensitive. For definition of that refer to the ever-growing Manual for Political Correctness, Australian edition.

See this report by the ever PC-approved, 'fact-checking', national broadcaster,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-01-26/rudds-nephew-in-kkk-anti-racism-stunt/309320

Students dressing up in Nazi costumes for Halloween is not funny either. Reprehensible conduct and due a great deal of public 'outing' (is that the PC correct use of that term?) and endless humiliation for it, of course.

So there you have it, a word and apparel too for that matter, in fact everything - even a thought - can mean what the P.C. Manual intends it to mean and nothing more. 'They' have spoken!

Suseonline will be along for her drive by when she is locked and loaded (and not with some old patient's cough mixture one hopes).