Beach, another outlandish attack on The Greens, what is your parties policy on the burqa, does Jim have a burqa policy?
<<However, as the Greens Protest Party and others will very soon learn, there is a very large majority of voters out there who will remember this and vote accordingly>> but unfortunately for you, but lucky for us, as history shows, they wont vote for your man Jim and your Australia First Party. tut tut.

Foxy, "Dr Saeed tells us that even Islamic legal norms dictate
that the community has the right to dictate certain things
unacceptable or acceptable as part of public interest"

Yes, that is only adult, reasonable position available.

Yvonne,

If as you say the number affected would be very few, who then was doing the protesting? What stick did they hold over the PM to force him back down?

Or is it media-led hysteria, using the ratbag Greens and other serial protesters as convenient actors in the faux drama?

General Comment,

How can schools for example ensure the safety of the children under their care - for instance against being snatched by relatives whose beliefs have determined that a child's parents/carer is not bringing them up as required by their culture - where the schools cannot because of the political correctness of multiculturalism apply their rules evenly?

It is impossible to provide any assurance for the safety of children where facial recognition of persons on school grounds is being deliberately obscured. The positive stereotyping of women as unlikely offenders is wrong, and particularly so where where children are concerned.

Fortunately the Abrahamic superstition (Christianity/Islam/Judaism) will eventually be a thing of the past. Unfortunately that may take another thousand years or so.

This ancient superstition has a horrid history throughout the ages of people sacrificing themselves, and sacrificing others, in the name of their vengeful, mythical, man made god. The same history has also entailed them fighting and squabbling amongst themselves --- murder, terrorism, hatred and domination for the glory of their particular one true "version" of the ancient superstition they follow.

However, in a free society, people have the right to follow any ancient superstition they wish, minus the violence of course. Any they have the right to dress how they wish, without being prosecuted by the law for doing so. If the dress infringes security identification regulations, they have the obligation to remove any particular part of that clothing in order to aid with identification. I know many Muslim women, and I bet not ONE of them would refuse to temporarily remove headgear in order to aid identification at a security checkpoint.

But the bigots here just want to scaremonger amongst their own kind, because of their paranoia and fear of anything associated with Islam. Andrew Bolt and the Daily Telegraph would be proud of them

G'evening to you ONTHEBEACH...

Reading your last thread got me thinking somewhat ? You lament the wasted opportunity that parliament had within it's grasp to effect change, observing it's overt weakness to act ? Well what do you expect old mate ? This country is now regarded as wholly ineffectual.

We have a Senate that blocks just about every measure the government seeks to get through. Alternatively, so thoroughly waters it down, the original object of the Bill bears virtually no relationship to it's original intent ? The Greens, instead of remaining true to their original philosophy, now seeks to leave their diminutive footprint over everything ?

It's little wonder a relatively simple issue as 'the Burqa' becomes bigger than War & Peace ? Why for goodness sake ? Similarly with the s.18c capitulation ? If the Party believes in it, then do it ! It's no wonder a British friend of mine described Australia as completely ineffectual. Perhaps they are right ?

o sung wu,

"Reading your last thread got me thinking somewhat ? You lament the wasted opportunity that parliament had within it's grasp to effect change, observing it's overt weakness to act ? Well what do you expect old mate ? This country is now regarded as wholly ineffectual."

"...If the Party believes in it..."

Come off it.

It was not something "the party believes in"...it was Credlin, Bronnie and the lot of 'em being reactive and dumb...too bloody clever by half.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2014/s4100213.htm

"But sources have told PM that it was a bid to stop about 10 protesters disrupting Question Time."

The Abbott govt has chosen its societal scapegoat with much care - and now they're making stupid impulsive decisions based on "rumours" in an attempt to forestall any dissent that may erupt because of their hysterical agenda.

Ever wondered what it would be like to have a bunch of cowboys run your govt?

Well now you know

O sung wu said, "We have a Senate that blocks just about every measure the government seeks to get through".

Not so o sung wu. Nearly every measure the current government has placed before the senate (over 100 of them) has passed. Only a handful haven't. Exactly the same applied to the previous government as well.

Here's a list of the 109 Bills that have been passed in the Senate just over the past 8 months only http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Statistics/Senate_StatsNet/legislation/passed/billspassed2014

All the arguing, bickering, fighting and squabbling you read in the media is always over a mere 5 or 6 or so pieces of legislation. Anyone who does not have legislative knowledge of the Senate, and who follows the media only, would be of the "impression" that virtually nothing gets passed and nothing gets done. Not so.