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Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 12:09:21 PM
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Rehctub: Who gets the subsidies?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-24/mining-trucks-go-about-their-work-in-the-mines/5545758 Mining industry receives billions of dollars in state subsidies: report By Simon Frazer, Rachael Brown and staff 24 Jun 2014 The astounding profitability of mining has helped drive Australia’s prosperity over the past decade, but a report released today shows the sector has also been a major recipient of state government largesse. Posted by Robert LePage, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 12:49:22 PM
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Who gets the subsidies you say Robert, well, less than half our population work, then, of those almost half receive more in the way of welfare than they contribute in taxes.
Of the remaining workers, many have investments which affect tax write offs, the same ones the media fails to mention in their hype fueled story. And yes, miners do get tax consetions, but seriously, would you prefer no miners and no jobs? Because that's the reality if we take way the incentive fir them to do business in the worlds most expensive work platform. Now while I'm not suggesting tax dodges are right, forcing these multi national huge employment generators to leave is not the answer either. The answer in my view is a fairer tax system for all. Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 4:14:14 PM
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Rehctub:
Perhaps if our worthy leaders had not allowed so many visa workers in, there would be a whole lot more jobs available. There are over a million workers now on special visas, that's a lot of Oz jobs. But of course those well intentioned miners are able to employ people at a lot less than the going rate and make an even bigger profit. As for preferring no miners and no jobs, well if the miners has spent SOME of their huge profits on training up a work force, there would be no need to import labour. Posted by Robert LePage, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 4:37:12 PM
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No argument there from me Robert as I'm dead against imported workers. In fact, OLO history will show that I have said that if miners refuse to train our own, then revoke their licenses. Same goes for our one, if they refuse to be trained, then cut them off.
In fact, the amount of jobs created by the labor government is almost in line with 457's issued, and yes, Abbott is just as guilty. Stop them and stop them now I say because we are headed for a train wreck and if we don't make every single job available, available to locals, then even more than the current 70+% of our population will be on subsidies, of ome form or another. But I plead that our law makers don't drive big business away, because along with them will go many of the jobs, as whether we like it or not they create most of the jobs we have, in one way or another. Suze, are you aware that less than 30% of our population pays the bills and subsidizes everyone else, along with big business of cause. How do you recon they will cope without big business to do their share of the heavy lifting? Especially given many of them would become either unemployed, or under employed. As for me being a typical liberal supporter, just remember we can have anything we want, so long as there is someone there to pay the bill, which is the exact case for more than 70% of oir population. So just remember, on average, 7 out of every 10 people you walk past are relying on big business and the other 3 for their financial support. Be careful you don't bite the hand that feeds us I say. Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 5:40:39 PM
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Rehctub, I don't have to worry too much about big business, but I have relatives with small businesses whose livelihoods have been adversely affected by the big guys.
They should pay more tax, and they can well afford to. At least I will always have a job in the health business....there will always be sick people.... Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 2 October 2014 1:45:11 AM
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Well Robert, with thinking like that you may just get your wish, which may make you happy, but what about the rest if us, or what about our elderly who rely on the subsidies these companies provide.