Dear Yvonne,

Thank You for your thoughts on this subject.
My nephew when as a student he came to the aid
of a young girl on campus was beaten by several
thugs - to the point where he ended up in a coma for a
long time in hospital, and now has a plate in his head.
He's been brain damaged and will never be the same
again. I've written about him previously on this forum.

Thugs will be thugs.

Dear Conservative Hippie.

Thank You for your opinion and your civil response.
I am pleased that you did take the time to read the
link. That speaks volumes about you. I'm glad you're
a contributor to this forum. We need more like you.
And Yvonne, of course.

'So, do I think all males, Christians, male doctors or the English are sickos? No. Just some of them.'

Yvonne you are intelligent enough to know this doctor was acting contrary to the Christian faith. The same can't be said of the raping of many infidels.

For me the problem lies in the inability of our imam's to loudly and completely castigate ISIS and distance themselves entirely from it and its aims. If they would do this emphatically and unreservedly, it would settle Australia down somewhat.

A reason for this is perhaps that ISIS followers are seen as more devout muslims than they are, following all the tenets of the Quran rather than just its mellower aspects. Moderates may be fearful of ISIS in speaking out and, also, they'd have to disavow themselves from the full text of the Quran with its more violent inclusions, putting a question mark over their entire upbringing and faith. Constance put up the following awhile back, which touches on some of this.

http://m.ncregister.com/daily-news/father-samir-on-isis-what-they-are-doing-is-diabolical/%23ixzz3CCHeuFxw#.VA-IssLa40t

I spoke with my son today. He's only 20 and I've tried to raise his level of vigilance without making him fearful, a fine line. To live a fearful life is to be avoided.

Susie, Foxy and Poirot,
It seems the females here have come out strongly in support of muslims. They claim over reation, unaustralian, only actions of a few, etc. One even blamed Abbott PM or tones as she called him.

Frankly it is the beheadings and other atrocities of ISIS that has caused the reaction, all in the name of Allah. Instead of blaming Abbott, critisise him for being too soft! Tougher measures are necessary. Like stopping further muslim immigration.

For those that claim it is unfair to penalize all for the actions of a few. That precedent was set with the confiscation of firearms years ago. So why is it Ok to discriminate against ALL gun owners because of the actions of a couple of mentally ill or evil persons, but not against ALL members of a particular religion because of the actions of many others that share the same faith?

Don't forget that the muslims have historical record here of female harassment, gang rape, thuggery and anti social behavior. Now there is a direct threat to us.

The more muslims there are here the bigger problems we will have in future.

Luciferase,

Thank you for the link. I read it in detail. It simply put and illuminating.

Is Mise, no, I have never and will never, read the koran.
Why would I? I don't believe in any invisible Allah any more than I do a Christian god.

As a child I was forced to read most of the bible though, and I would never actually follow what it suggests we should do in many parts of that book either.

I would suggest many Muslim people would be the same, in that they are not all so devout as to follow everything an old book written a long time ago says to do.

Runner, the way you spit your anti-Muslim venom all over this forum, I have no doubt you know exactly how to act "...contrary to the Christian faith".