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Constitutional Racism?

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The arrogance of clowns like DreamOn is breathtaking isn't it.

They have trotted off to some institution somewhere & had their little heads filled with a pile of lefty, academic, PC nonsense. Then they have the hide to not only think they have some idea of the truth, but sneer at their betters, who actually do know something.

Dream on, we put up with funding your little mutual admiration societies, but do be a little careful. Keep up the superiority rubbish & you just might find enough resistance to that, to make clowns like you actually earn a living.

Considering your obvious lack of knowledge & life skills, about the only useful activity for you would be cleaning the boots of real people. I wonder if you could manage that.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 27 September 2014 10:57:49 AM
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If that "dominant paradigm" has any legs you should be pleased to trot out the evidence in support.

It is very obvious from well documented reports concerning for example, the treatment of wards of the State, that if indigenous had been discriminated against by the State there are many more who could claim the same. What about the thousands of young mothers from the general population who had their babies stolen from them? Wasn't that forced adoption stealing children too? See here,

Forced Adoption
http://indymedia.org.au/2013/03/22/the-prime-minister%E2%80%99s-apology-to-victims-of-forced-adoption

Forgotten Australians
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/contributors/finally-we-forgotten-australians-are-believed-20091116-igm8.html

Write all of them into the Constitution? If not why not?
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 27 September 2014 10:59:55 AM
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Dream on,

Oh dear, sometimes I feel sorry for Johnnie-come-latelies and their mouths.

My wife of 43 years was Indigenous. We've lived in Indigenous communities. We worked in Indigenous tertiary student support programs. Between us, we wrote maybe a dozen articles mainly on Indigenous tertiary student success.

I worked in factories and on farms but went to uni as a mature student. I have thirteen years of tertiary study, including two Masters.

I've typed up about eight thousand pages of documents, mainly from the nineteenth century, over the last fifteen years. Like you, when I started out I suspected that what I was reading and typing up was in some way fraudulent, written with an eye to the future. I realised very quickly that that was absurd. As I typed up more and more documents, naturally they criss-crossed, triangulated, and told the same basic story.

Which was:

* that no children were taken away without explicit cause, i.e. the kids were orphans, foundlings, etc. Amazingly few children were actually put into care in the nineteenth century, and I suspect that there was far less family disruption than people suppose these days.

* with one full-time employee in the 'Aborigines Department', the Protector, and usually only two or three whites on Missions, there is no evidence of people being herded onto Mission. By the 1890s, there were sixty ration depots all over the state (see web-site below); in the annual reports of the Protector, Missions contained barely 16-18 % of the state's known Aboriginal population - during the depression, it went up to 30 %.

* amazingly, there is no real evidence of any massacre of Aborigines by whites. If you know of any evidence, please share it.

* Equally amazingly, there is no evidence of Aboriginal people being driven off pastoral land. One pastoralist declared that he would, but was reminded of the clause in his lease which guaranteed Aboriginal people all their traditional use-rights. End of.

It's all on my web-site, summarised in an article there:

'Re-Thinking Aboriginal History'.

Check it all out, you might learn something.

Joe
www.firstsources.info
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 27 September 2014 12:10:26 PM
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Joe,

Among all the Aboriginals that I have met who were taken away from their families I have not met one who was not thankful that he/she had been removed to an environment where there was an opportunity for education and advancement.
One chap that I particularly remember was a Uni graduate, I met him at the sand mining protest at Middle Head beach (NSW Nth Coast) back in 1979 and he'd just come from a first time visit to his family and tribe in WA.
He told me that he was not popular as he had nothing in common with his kin, as all that they were interested in was drinking and fighting, neither of which activities interested him.
Eventually they ganged up on him one night and made a big mistake.
This bloke was a big man physically, over 6 ft tall and well built and an expert in martial arts.
He told me that he went through them like a packet of salts, not hurting them much but throwing them until they woke up to the fact that they were far outclassed as fighters.
He said that their attitudes changed and he became a man of respect but that the one visit had been enough, at least for a few years.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 27 September 2014 1:05:28 PM
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"He told me that he went through them like a packet of salts, not hurting them much but throwing them until they woke up to the fact that they were far outclassed as fighters"

He was very fortunate they had none of the favoured star picket nulla nullas or lumber available.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 27 September 2014 10:00:34 PM
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