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3.25% pay increase not good enough hey!

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The 'Prices and Incomes Accord' put in place during the Hawke years has been a true economic and political success.
Paul1405,
Is this one of your Green Dreams again ? The left side of politics has done nothing, it was the GST that the Left so vehemmently opposed that pulled Australia out of the crap. Get this into your memory Bank, the Left does not produce revenue, it gobbles up revenue. The Right is the revenue maker & the Left the revenue taker. If you disagree with that then you disagree with reality.
Australian teachers should be ashamed to ask for more pay whilst they're unable to show progress in education. The problem is that in order to feel shame you need to have decency & a commitment to responsibility. Education should be about passing on knowledge not passing on tricks to exploit loopholes to build up undeserved Super.
Posted by individual, Friday, 19 September 2014 4:48:19 AM
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So Paul, I woukd be right to assume that your position is that workers are entitled to a pay increase, regardless of their productivity, or the state of the nations finances. Yea right!

Firstly, many of the wages and conditions enjoyed today are from conditions secured during a huge mining boom, whereby a trained monkey could have secured a job, simply because the balance of supply V demand was such that the damand for labor was huge.

Secondly, surely in a democratic society, it's only fair that when the demand for labor dies off, that the conditions secured from strong times can be adjusted to suit poor times, which is what we have today"

It's rather ironic that almost every thing we buy and sell is allowed to fluctuate in price, except for wages. Of cause the end result for many will be lost jobs, but unionists just can't see that.

So back to the subject at hand, this pay rise is the lowest this school has offered in twenty years and is above the CPI at a time where many out there are happy just to have a job.

So in reality, given the times we face, I see it as pure greed because these workers have gone for the past twenty years, which included the period during the GFC, receiving pay rises all the way along.
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 19 September 2014 9:05:01 AM
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Teachers have nothing to be proud of as Australia's education standards
are declining compared to other countries.
Of course it won't be the teachers fault will it ?
Could it be, all that trendy stuff they are teaching, they actually believe it themselves ?

Everyone is in for a big shock in the next few years, including pensioners.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 19 September 2014 4:01:30 PM
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Everyone is in for a big shock in the next few years, including pensioners.
Bazz,
Unfortunately you're right ! Thanks to the Lefties our future is in real jeopardy.
Posted by individual, Friday, 19 September 2014 6:46:32 PM
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Individual, did you hear about the teacher who ran a pageant of the
arrival of the first fleet lead by Captain Cook ?

When pointed out to the teacher that Captain Cook had been dead for
many years at that time she answered "But the children took part".
Just like spelling and grammar is not important, so historical fact is not important.

As a friend often says "Incompetence is everywhere, no one cares !".
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 19 September 2014 11:10:02 PM
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<<So Paul, I woukd be right to assume that your position is that workers are entitled to a pay increase, regardless of their productivity, or the state of the nations finances. Yea right!>>

Butch I do believe the system which has been built up over years, should not be presented so simplistically as you present the above. Workplace agreements and awards that are generally in place require a lot of negotiation and agreement before they are implemented. Wages are very much controlled in Australia. to return to the bad old days where the law of the jungle applied would be counterproductive, on wages alone there would be a few winners and a lot of losers. I am happy with the system as it now applies.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 20 September 2014 9:10:33 AM
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