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Too many people complain in Australia

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This is taken from the high School text book,
"The Changing Australians: A Social History,"
from a chapter called - "The White Australians." :

"While Australian television shows like "Skippy"
(about life in a national park as seen through the
adventures of a tame kangaroo) were popular, the
character of the Aussie housewife was mocked by the
clever comedy skits of over-the-fence-natter by the
Australian actress Dawn Lake. "You tell 'em love"
became the symbol of the tea-sipping-hair-in-curlers-
gossip-over-the-fence brigade."

"Later, this humour was turned to the "Ocker" male,
in the style of Graham Kennedy and the writing of Nino
Culotta, and the city suburbs became the backdrop for the
new Aussie image. Now the language of the pub-crawling,
Aussie gained popularity. "You Drongo," or "He's a galah,"
became the accompaniment to the traditional "bloody bastard."

"The suburban life and well-being of Australian society became
the butt of many jokes, and the intolerance towards
"new Australians" and "coloureds," was sent up as an
unjustifiable prejudice."

"It was not till the 1970s that the Ocker Aussie was packaged
for world consumption in films, and comics, but once done,
the exaggerated image of "Bazza (Barry) MacKenzie became one
which many Australians were no longer so proud of."

"This critical self-consciousness had become more and more
apparent in the late 1960s and forced both politicians and
the public to revise not only policies but also many of
their long-held and cherished notions about themselves
and the rest of the world."

Is this still a "true" picture of Australians?

Why or why not?

In the "interests of discussion."
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 16 August 2014 11:04:13 PM
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Foxy,

From your own account you are well educated, have enjoyed a series of well paid government librarian positions with jolly good conditions including superannuation. Your partner is an architect, you have travelled extensively and your daily ride when you are not perambulating around in the new government provided vehicle that many librarians get as part of their package, is GMH's executive, cricket-pitch dimensioned Stateman. You have volunteered that you have your eye on a German luxury vehicle, your minimum and expectation you say, with your husband to pay.

As the girl child, woman child if you wish, of migrants and as a public servant you would have been the recipient of all manner of affirmative action policies for decades -a longer period than many of the younger taxpayers reading this and who would be supporting you still, have been alive. They might reflect upon that.

Given that context it is unreasonable for you to be continually whining about your despised 'white' (sic) Australians and seeking more victim status and entitlement. Your comfortable educated middle class womanhood does not put in the best position to sledge your own countrymen and Australia. But weren't you saying before it is the lucky country - for you and yours too presumably.

No excuses.

Turning to your cherry-picking from a school book, I will take the time to confirm with you once again as others have done in the past that NO, Skippy (also used as an offensive sledge by some), Dawn Lake, Graham Kennedy and Barry McKenzie were never representative of the Australian community, culture or psyche.

How come you don't know that?

Your dogmatism and keen sense of your own personal entitlement always blind you to the tolerance, acceptance, frankness, honesty, generosity and sense of fair play of ordinary Australians. Take a sandwich (not too despised 'white' Australian for you I hope) and go sit in a park somewhere and watch the happy smiling faces of the people. Confusing TV shows with real life is a problem.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 16 August 2014 11:58:53 PM
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"Given that context it is unreasonable for you to be continually whining about your despised 'white' (sic) Australians and seeking more victim status and entitlement. Your comfortable educated middle class womanhood does not put in the best position to sledge your own countrymen and Australia. But weren't you saying before it is the lucky country - for you and yours too presumably. .....Your dogmatism and keen sense of your own personal entitlement always blind you to the tolerance, acceptance, frankness, honesty, generosity and sense of fair play of ordinary Australians....."

Otb,

Foxy posted a quote in the interests of discussion. Her material is pertinent as the media has reflected back to us certain aspects of our psyche over the years. We are very different in outlook in 2014 than we were in 1945 or 1975.

Now I'll just note that you appear to be priming yourself for another full on otb sledge of Foxy....as is your occasional wont....and has been enacted many times before. You criticism of her recent post, again drawing on her antecedents and her personal life are unreasonable.

She posted a discussion piece and you take it as a chance to get personal.

(Just in case you were thinking of continuing on the same tack)
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 17 August 2014 6:13:18 AM
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Poirot,

You are needed back on that other thread where you have been playing your parlour game of tit-for-tat for twenty-two pages.

Although Foxy will be pleased with your reciprocation here for her help there as well. Despite that, Shadow Minister's patient persistence has put you to rout.

'Nek minute', you appear here. Figures. LOL

Anyhow, I'll not keep you from returning to your:

- indignant hysteria over the PM declaring "gifts to Frances [his daughter] of negligible value, such as free tickets to marketing events"; and your,

- "poncing about".

Meanwhile, BTT, where Foxy has some explaining to do.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 17 August 2014 7:17:21 AM
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Taking all the afore posts into consideration it strikes me that most would be partial to a non-military national service to get some positive back into our gimme gimme society.
Flat tax also & we'd be on our way to betterment. All this negativity that's being talked about is solely & purely due to the lack of discipline & responsibility. This where the islamic society has got it over us, they have that discipline & the sense of responsibility & belonging to the way of life they aspire to. It is to our detriment but only because our society lacks the oinviction that the islamic society has be it stupid or callous or smart & benevolent in our eyes. In their eyes it's what they want & they're on their way to getting it. Why don't we grab the bull by the horns & do the same instead of just complaining ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 17 August 2014 8:34:00 AM
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otb,

If you would be so kind to check back on this thread, you'll note that I "was already here". I came back to have a look at how the conversation was progressing...and lo and behold, I find otb winding up to have one of his regular personal tilts at Foxy.

And, who do you think you are directing me where I should and should not go on this forum.

"Meanwhile, BTT, where Foxy has some explaining to do."

Well....Lol!....I know how much you get your jollies from personally attacking Foxy, think you're on a winner with this one, do you?

Perhaps you'd like to do some "explaining" as to why you take a perfectly legitimate post on topic - and turn it into a Foxy-bash...something you've done repeatedly to her (and other women) over the course of your contributions on OLO.

BTT, otb....and that doesn't include singling fellow posters out for inquisition.

I'll be hanging around for a while.......
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 17 August 2014 8:42:29 AM
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