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Labor's Speaker found guilty of dishonesty.
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Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 18 August 2014 11:22:06 AM
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Clandestine you say, Paul1405?
You deny that your favoured Greens would ever be like that of course. Nero's wife and all that. Or would they? <Get Zed: CFMEU donates $50,000 to ACT Greens to bring down Seselja In a last-minute bid to prevent the election of Liberal Senate candidate and former ACT leader Zed Seselja in 2013, the ACT Greens received the largest donation in the history of the party branch from the pro-Labor Construction, Forestry, Mining and Electrical Union (CFMEU). Fairfax Media can reveal a $50,000 donation was made to the ACT Greens federal account, which can only be spent on federal elections or administration, on September 3 last year, in the dying days of polling. It was by far the largest single donation ever given to the ACT Greens party and was more than twice as much as was given to the Labor Party over the same period. It was also four times as much as a 2012 donation from the CFMEU's ACT branch, which made a few Greens members ''uneasy'' at the time. CFMEU ACT division secretary Dean Hall said the donation had not come from the Canberra branch but from the national division, meaning he had no direct knowledge of it."> http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/get-zed-cfmeu-donates-50000-to-act-greens-to-bring-down-seselja-20140817-101iyf.html The Greens are intent on cannibalising their Labor partner. BTW was it you Paul1405 who was indulging himself with fulsome praise of the CFMEU recently? By pure coincidence, of course? Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 18 August 2014 12:09:56 PM
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Paul,
"Poirot <<I'm not blaming Frances for this at all.>> I am, old enough to know better!" I don't believe it's fair to target Frances for the fact that a rigid system of entitlement and unfair largesse is slated for the children of the highly connected. Yes, she is the actual recipient, but her parents are the ones financially assisted by not having to fork out for her fees. And SM can bang on about "scholarships" all he likes...most institutions advertise them and they are vied for in a transparent manner. They don't usually appear out of nowhere and awarded in a one-off entitlement. Posted by Poirot, Monday, 18 August 2014 12:16:38 PM
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P,
If someone robs you at gunpoint, but only manages to steal $50, by your rational it should be downgraded to littering. Slipper committed fraud. A small stupid fraud, but fraud none the less. As the expenses regime is somewhat ambiguous, the Minchen protocol was put in place to cover differing interpretations by the MPs. It is however, conditional on accurate records. If the dept of finance deems that the expenses do not qualify, they can be paid back without penalty. If the records are deliberate falsified, as Slipper's were, the Minchen Protocol does not apply and it is a police matter. I have explained this before, more than once, it has been explained in both the Newscorp and Fairfax papers and anyone with an IQ greater than a squirrel should have no problem understanding it. As for FA, the Whitehouse institute is relatively small and while offering many scholarships, has done so in the past. To quote: "The institute has said the scholarship was given at arm’s length from the chairman and Ms Abbott received it based on the merit and quality of her portfolio and application." None of the whingers from the left have any of the information that FA presented in her application as to her qualifications nor quality of her portfolio, and even her detractors have to admit that she was a high achiever. If FA got the scholarship on merit, it has nothing to do with TA, nor his position and as such does not qualify for inclusion on his list of pecuniary interests. As for OTB's comments, it looks as though the greens are dirtier than they claim, and I guess that things will get bad for them when the focus of ICAC turns on them. Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 18 August 2014 4:32:37 PM
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Shadow Minister,
Two words - Arthur Sinodinos. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 18 August 2014 5:47:25 PM
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SM,
"As for FA, the Whitehouse institute is relatively small and while offering many scholarships, has done so in the past. To quote: "The institute has said the scholarship was given at arm’s length from the chairman and Ms Abbott received it based on the merit and quality of her portfolio and application..." Oh really...care to name any other occasions when Whitehouse awarded a "Chairman's/Managing Director's Scholarship?" (not counting the one to the Director's daughter - as that as been slated as merely "free tuition".) http://newmatilda.com/2014/05/21/leaked-documents-cast-doubt-abbotts-60k-scholarship-claims "Documents obtained by New Matilda also challenge claims by the Prime Minister that his daughter’s scholarship was won on merit. Rather than an exhaustive application process, Ms Abbott, aged 22, was offered the ‘Managing Director’s Scholarship’ at her first and only meeting with the owner of the Institute, Leanne Whitehouse. The Institute declined to nominate any other occasion when the scholarship has been awarded..." "Internal documents record: “Had interview with [Leanne Whitehouse]… – offered at time of interview.” The next entry, on February 24, reads: “Student been offered ‘Managng (sic) Director Scholarship for 2011.” Despite this, the Institute’s website states that Whitehouse does “… not currently offer scholarships to gain a place into the Bachelor of Design”." Posted by Poirot, Monday, 18 August 2014 6:02:16 PM
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As for Horrible Joe Hockey, got one of his stooges before the ICAC this week. Lets hope he spills his guts, and when the proverbial hits the fan, maybe it will spray all over Grubby Joe. This bloke is as slippery as his ex cohort Slippery Pete, but you never know. They are all part of The infamous 'North Shore Liberal Mafia' Abbott, Hockey and Baird they're all members.
For those who though it was all over with CORRUPT LABOR, Not So! Also this week at the ICAC a LABOR GRUB, yep there are still plenty of them around. This times it a Ian McNamara, a ROBBO Staffer who is required to front up and tell all. McNamara has stood aside (big deal) while the ICAC delve into clandestine activities involving a couple of other LABOR crooks, Roozedaal and Tripodi.
Shadow when they refer to FAT GUTS in the LIBERAL PARTY, who is in the "shadows" with all this, is it FAT TINKLER or FAT BARRY, what do you reckon