http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/peter-slipper-found-guilty-of-dishonestly-using-taxi-vouchers/story-fn59niix-1227004701129

Both of the two men that were accused of crimes whilst propping up Gillard have now been convicted of those crimes. Combine this with forming government with Oakeshott and Windsor who sold out their electorates and the supreme act of betrayal to bring in the carbon tax, and the last Labor government was as morally bankrupt as it was as possible to be. The supreme effort that Labor is making to get us to forget their disastrous 6 years of populist incompetence, is hampered by what is emerging as Shorten's murky past.

Labor's continued dishonesty is highlighted by Labor's populist voting down of policy savings that they themselves introduced to parliament, and promised at the election.

God help Australia from politicians that promise people what they want instead of what they need.

SM, I know its a stretch target but maybe a little less partisan in your posting would help. From the article

"The winery visits occurred while Mr Slipper was a Liberal National MP but before he became an independent MP and federal speaker — the highest parliamentary position in Australia."

What you wrote didn't quite say otherwise but it did focus on just Labor. Its that kind of partisan approach from both sides that makes it difficult to get genuine reform to the self serving mess that Australian politics has become.

R0bert

Dear RObert,

Well said!

What I don't understand is - why wasn't Mr Slipper
allowed to pay back his debt like the PM and others
in his party were?

Foxy,

Lol!

Slipper was charged because "apparently" someone from "outside" Finance reported him the AFP.

All the other Liberals who were rorting like there was no tomorrow got to take advantage of the Minchin Protocol.

Rort - rort - and rort again seems to have been LNP policy.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/MPs-expenses

Dear Poirot,

What I find difficult to understand is SM's
persistant finger-pointing only at Labor.

Foxy, you do seem to do the same in thing as SM though. Lots of finger pointing at the LNP and very quiet about Labor doing the same stuff. The same issue, just a different side of the fence.

R0bert

For all you left whinger amnesiacs:

The Labor MPs were just as bad at pushing the limits on expenses, and,

Expenses claims are submitted with the correct paperwork to finance. If after reviewing the paperwork, Finance decides that the claim does not meet the requirements, the MP involved can repay the money with no penalty.

What Slipper did was essentially deliberately submit falsified documents to Finance to hid the reasons for the expenses. This was fraud which is why he was charged and found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

P.S. Did you read the article on Krudd spending $100 000 a week on travel expenses?

Dear SM,

Yes we did. And SteeleRedux gave you an excellent
reply to that article.

Try again.

Please don't stop, SM

Your denunciations of Labor - while defending this bumbling cabal of fools called the "Govt", deserves its own show.

(now where's my popcorn:)

cont'd ...

Ooops - I meant to say that SteeleRedux gave Rehctub
an excellent reply to that article. You should read it.

Also - you criticise others for using "biased" sources
and yet you persist in using "The Australian" consistently.
A newspaper owned by an American Company, run
by an American citizen - who tells us what to think.
And then you bleat on about the "unfairnesss" of the
"Left whingers," (whoever they may be).

You really deserve our respect!

At least we could save $157,000 + indexed for life per year for his pension.

Foxy,

I assume you are referring to the same "excellent" reply that SR gave which Slipper tried on the Judge in his case. Unsurprisingly it was tossed out for the same reasons I gave above.

The reason that Slipper betrayed the LNP was because he had been dis endorsed for re election for his seat by the LNP precisely because of his repeated abuse of his expense account. And the ALP knew it at the time. But being the party of corruption Juliar was only too happy to have the crooked Slipper join her and the other 40 thieves for a paltry extra 100 000 pieces of silver a year.

I hope he gets a jail sentence, loses his $157k p.a. pension, and joins other ALP crooks in the centrelink queue.

Poirot,

Pot, Kettle. At least the coalition has achieved more in 10 months than Labor did in 6 years.

He joins a long list of Labor senior MPs & leaders who served time in parliament, then prison, when their criminal intent was perceived.

More to come I believe.

Both sides are very capable at rorting the system.

George Brandis spends thousands on his books and book shelves when he probably had a complete set from his old practice. With all the advisors and research people available to a minister I wonder whether he ever has to resort to his own shelves.

A Labor Minister about to leave parliament took a winter 2013 holiday at our expense.

Tony Abbott campaigned on his bike for years but that was treated as a parliamentarian expense rather than a Liberal Party expense.

Both sides need some education in ethics. They didn't learn much in that regard during their religious upbringing.

Yes Robert,

Well said!

Does this mean the AFP will be investigating, and prosecuting the PM and the rest of the rorting lieberal party? The weddings, book launches, housebuying, firefighting, bike rides for gods sake. It is corruption of the highest order and if the AFP dont follow their precedent set with the slipper case then they are as corrupt as this government.
The Australian people are getting sick of these liars with their snouts firmly in the troughs while raining down vicious blows on those that cant fight back.
Greedy, corrupt, bullies

No matter what happened here are the FACTS: In the latest poll, Newspoll, Labor leads 54% to 46%. If an election was held right now, LABOR WOULD ROMP IN.

Jay123 - Then they would send out the navy taxi to bring in another 50,000 + economic invaders.

Then next election back in opposition.

Lol! - SM,

"Pot, Kettle. At least the coalition has achieved more in 10 months than Labor did in 6 years."

Well yes...but perhaps mayhem and laughter weren't exactly what the electorate had in mind.

(found my popcorn:)

Dear Shadow Minister,

Shame on you!

G'day there FOYLE...

I agree with much of what you've said, when you state that all sides of politics have their collective snouts in the trough. What I do find curious though, I'm sure some (perhaps many) people enter parliament with the firm intent of serving their electorate, and the country in toto.

Then over time a strange transformation or metamorphoses seems to occur and even the most ethical, most principled politician ends up in the gutter with his/her many cohorts, clawing away as much of the public's munificence, as can be managed.

Over my thirty two years as a copper, I've locked up better, more principled, even more ethical crooks, then many of those slugs who laughingly call themselves politicians.

Dear O Sung Wu,

According to Peter Coleman - whatever they may say, most
politicians do not go into Parliament to bring about
particular reforms; they go in because they find the
life irresistible. They want to be in it all their lives.

They enjoy its exhilarating highs and take its miserable
(and tedious) lows in their stride. They face long years
in the wilderness with equanimity. They take fro granted the
slander of fools. They also believe that the voters will
get it right in the end. Their day will come. They are
politicians in the way others are poets. They simply can't
help themselves.

Coleman tells us that Peter Costello (his son-in-law) was
not like that. To Peter Costello all that stuff (according
to Coleman) is the excuse of the seat-warmer, the hack, the
careerist, or at best the adventurer.

Coleman states that
Costello belonged to a different parliamentary tradition.
That Costello did go into Parliament to make a difference.

I wonder how many of today's politicians can genuinely
and honestly make that claim - and have it be true?

Here we go...

"Taxpayers have forked out close to $330,000, including $800 for a door knob, for a border protection media briefing room that hasn't been used since its completion 10 months ago.

Construction and fit-out costs for the high-tech theatrette totalled almost $235,000 while the annual cost of having it on stand-by is running at about $100,000.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/government-pays-330000-for-a-room-it-doesnt-use-20140729-zy16r.html#ixzz38pqkPw9r

SM - don't hold up Idiot Boy and his Tin Pot Govt as something to behold....they are a joke - and one in very poor taste.

Dear Poirot,

The current polls should tell Shadowm Minister
what Australian voters are really feeling about
the current political situation.

Shadow Minister is grabbing at sraws with threads
like this one. And being extremely one-eyed.
As I stated earlier - "Shame on Him!"

Foxy,

Yes, it's sad really. Shadow Minister must have had such high hopes.

Look what we got.

And it's reflected in the polls week after week.

This govt's antics are just a series of faux pas wrapped in cruelty.

Let's hope our democracy recovers fast from this blight.

Dear Poirot,

I've asked this question previously.

Why has it taken only 10 months for the
Coalition to go from electoral triumph to internal
discontent?

Clearly, tha catalyst is the budget, based on a
stream of broken promises and Coalition foot
soldiers, particularly those in marginal seats know
that the electorate is disillusioned.

This is the foundation of the discontent rumbling
through the party. First we had the Turnbull sideshow
(a diversion engineered predmoninantly through the
Murdoch Press to deflect attention from the failed
budget). And now we're getting Joe Hockey's book
"Not your average Joe."

What's next - Cory Bernardi as Communications Minister?

Do you people (Foxy & Poirot) actually believe Labour is a good alternative? Granted the coalition isn't showing the compassionate qualities Labour pretends to represent, but have you forgotten or just closed your eyes and covered your ears to the past six years of Labour in Government? You both seem to be intelligent people, surely you must know in your hearts the Labour years were a disaster.

ConservativeHippie,

"You both seem to be intelligent people"

Yes...and we're so intelligent we know that they are called "Labor" in Oz.

Regarding the last six years....the ones where labor delivered one of the best post GFC economies in the world...Yes?

Smok'n Joe accidentally slipped up and told the truth in New Zealand:

"Australian economy is not in trouble, Joe Hockey tells NZ"

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/australian-economy-is-not-in-trouble-joe-hockey-tells-nz-20140726-zx6ie.html

The "crisis" was obviously for domestic consumption - not so handy when you're trying to lure foreign investment.

""There's no crisis at all in the Australian economy," the treasurer said."

Lol!

Why has it taken only 10 months for the
Coalition to go from electoral triumph to internal
discontent?
Foxy,
You don't think incessant sabotage, incessant unwarranted criticism, incessant destabilising the LNP & its Government has no hand in all this ?
May I suggest learning this to Lefties foreign word ?

integrity |ɪnˈtɛgrɪti|
noun [ mass noun ]
1 the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles: a gentleman of complete integrity.
2 the state of being whole and undivided: upholding territorial integrity and national sovereignty.
• the condition of being unified or sound in construction: the structural integrity of the novel.
• internal consistency or lack of corruption in electronic data: [ as modifier ] : integrity checking.
ORIGIN late Middle English (in sense 2): from French intégrité or Latin integritas, from integer ‘intact’ (see integer). Compare with entirety,integral, and integrate.

You know chaps, you could avoid all these corrupt sleaze bags in the LIBERAL and LABOR Parties. Its all so simple, come out my friends, don't be sad, political happiness is at hand. All you have to do is VOTE GREEN the only party with honesty and integrity. VOTE GREEN.

Well Individual, I'd suggest that that's a definition you forward to our default PM, it's clearly something he lacks.
What so many rusted-on librat supporters forget is that Abbott did NOT win the election, Labor LOST it.
And they mainly lost it because they allowed the incessant attacks of a rabid bully, and the media support he enjoyed, to distract them, they were actually doing a reasonably good job till then.
Now we have the self-same rabid bully running the place, and all we get is more of the same, endless blaming of the "previous government", posturing and abuse, and no substantive benefit for the nation.
He was so bereft of policy direction he allowed his dinner companions to dictate them, and now ranks as the most rapidly and rabidly unpopular PM Australia has ever had.
Says it all really.

Paul, whilst many of us are deeply unhappy with the LNP and Labor its not so bad that most are considering economic suicide. Vote One Raving Loony Party might be good satire but its hardly a realistic option.

R0bert

unpopular PM Australia has ever had.
G'dayBruce,
What, your memory can't go back not even two years ? Did you live on another planet when Labor was in Government ?
No matter how unpopular Abbott & his Government become, they're not capable of being as incompetent as Labor.
Btw. I haven't met a Labor voter with integrity yet but please let me know if you think there might be a couple.

Hi there FOXY...

I do hope your last medical procedure went very well and was a resounding success FOXY !

I reckon Peter Colman was spot on. Many potential politicians see politics as a platform for obtaining power, and with power comes reward, whether that reward is ethically permitted, or simply a fringe benefit for being a politician ?

Many years ago when I was quite new in the job, I was remotely acquainted with a certain newly elected pollie who often returned home in Sydney, at weekends. Apparently many of them who had their electorates in the Sydney area, attended the Federal Office's in the city, before returning to their respective homes. Consequently, he crossed paths with me and my colleagues quite regularly, and initially he proved to be a really terrific bloke to speak with.

However as the months passed, both his demeanour and his rapport, particularly with us changed markedly. To the point where he became quite aloof and arrogant, rarely even acknowledging our presence ? Now that's all very good and fine, however it was us that were expected to provide him and his mates personal protection, while ever they were attending that Federal Office suite.

Fortunately it came to pass, the Federal Police were ultimately given the mandate to provide close protection to all those who were temporally located within, Sydney's Parliamentary Office's at Chifley Square. I felt particularly sorry for them, in the expectation that they too, might well be treated in a similar pompous and imperious fashion as we were ?

In conclusion it amazed me how a fellow who outwardly seemed to be a genuinely nice sort of bloke, could change so completely, almost to a full 180 degrees !

"BILL Shorten says he “completely deplores” the misconduct of former parliamentary speaker Peter Slipper, who faces up to five years in jail for abusing his travel perks." Pity Electricity Bill didn't realise this sooner when he supported both Slipper and Thomson.

Nothing that this liberal government vaguely approached the rotten and corrupt Labor government that we had for 6 years.

The Survival through the GFC was entirely possible because Aus had the strongest economy and the lowest debt in the world going into the GFC. Labor left it with lower growth, bigger debt and larger budget deficits than for decades.

The Aus economy is not in crisis YET. But the wild spending and poor governance left by Labor cannot continue.

R0bert, what you say about the party of Honesty and Integrity THE GREEN's is simply your misguided political opinion. You must be an 'old fart' like myself recalling The Raving Loony Party, possibly you would be better off supporting The Micky Mouse Party, which had a very solid political platform of "Free Cheese for Everybody!" which is a lot better than what the criminals within The Labor and Liberal Parties can offer.
I must say, the more I see of Tweedle Dum Abbott, and Tweedle Even Dummer Shorten, the more I think Anarchism would be a better form of government.

<<Nothing that this liberal government vaguely approached the rotten and corrupt Labor government that we had for 6 years.>>
SM, obviously you are forgetting the CORRUPT New South Wales Liberal Government. Remember Boozy Barry and the conga line of Liberals dancing their way into the ICAC recently. The NSW corruption has spilled over into federal politics, take one look at that pair of Liberal Shonky's Abbott and Hockey, they are fully paid up members of the notorious Liberals North Shore Mafia. For honesty and integrity you can VOTE GREEN.

Paul,

If you are going to compare BOF accepting a bottle of wine to a long litany of Labor MPs convicted of fraud, and the corrupt acceptance of $1.7m by the greens, you have a weird sense of proportion.

What about Vic Labor and the tapes, the millions bilked by Labor MPs, not to mention the pedophilia etc.

The coalition is not popular for introducing tough reforms, but come an election Labor has a shocking financial, moral and competence record.

SM,

Come now....this Coalition govt is chocka with rorters who have paid back under the Minchin Protocol...not the least being Abbott himself - and that's beside all the largesse he milked for his pollie pedal self-promotional escapades.

Abbott is the only federal pollie who grabs the bickies from tax payers for travel to pollie pedal.

Others have a tad more decency.

Remember Joyce and his 1 day study tour of Malaysia, taken ostensibly so he could charge the tax payer his return airfare from the Indian wedding. Keeping in mind that all he produced was a generic report which could have been gleaned from Wikipedia.

"The coalition is not popular for introducing tough reforms, but come an election Labor has a shocking financial, moral and competence record."

Oh, you mean the "incompetence" which has made our economy the envy of the rest of the industrialised world - that incompetence?

It's an agenda..an IPA agenda...and come an election this rancid excuse for a govt will be sluiced down the gurgler for their mendacious con of the electorate.

Dear O Sung Wu,

Thank You for asking about my second Catheter Ablation
for Atrial Fibrillation on Monday 21st July. This time
it was a far more intense procedure - and hopefully
it will be a success. My specialist told me - it's
still too early to tell. I've got to go back to him
in September - so fingers-crossed. It's not something
I ever want to go through again. My bruising is
spectacular - and I'm still in pain - especially in the
groin area where incisions wee made and catheters were
passed through sheaths up through the veins into the
heart.

Anyway, enough said. I don't want to de-rail SM's discussion.
Again - Thankis for asking.

I've been reading about the politics of Sir Robert Menzies
(for a discussion on another thread), and couldn't help
thinking - where are the politicians today - of his calibre?

As I wrote on the other thread - this was a time in
Australian politics when passions and prejudices ran
strong but wit, reason, purpose and clarity of expression were
at least acknowledged for their value in tempering the
language and posturing of political contest. Unlike the
divisive hardening of political rhetoric the retreat of
civility and the ideological polarities of our time,
Australian post war politics at its best was memorably
human.

Menzies' off-quoted quips for instance, to the
woman who at Willliamstown in 1954 heckled him with:

"I wouldn't vote for you if you were the Archangel Gabriel!"

Menzies supposed reposte was:

"Madam, if I were the Archangel Gabriel I'm afraid you
wouldn't be in my constituency!"

SM,

".... Labor has a shocking financial, moral and competence record."

Why, in that case, would Hockey say this to New Zealanders?...

"The Australian economy is not in trouble. We've had 23 years of consecutive economic growth. There's no crisis at all in the Australian economy."

Although there will be if these nutters carry on regardless.

http://www.afr.com/p/national/professional_services/more_businesses_need_to_fail_for_SdOQMXa4JCzB5imqQoRCLI

Titled: "More businesses need to fail for economy to succeed."

"More business collapses is the price the Australian economy will pay for being robust and more entrepreneurial, a new report on the insolvency sector says." (paywalled)

SM, myself being the true neural poster on this thread I can only say;

"A pox on both their houses." Labor and Liberal that is!

Do not try and drag the Honest and Virtues GREEN's down to the cesspool of sewerage that is both the Liberal and Labor parties. How much of your donation was spent on the "Plonk For Barry!" campaign. I sus all of it.
To cleanse your soul, its not to late for you to offer yourself up at the "Alter of Bob" (Bob Brown that is) and beg for forgiveness, for ye know not what ye do.
Alternatively salvation is at hand, my son, simply VOTE GREEN and all shall be forgiven. Visit the handmaidens of the anointed of Bob, we're got a few for you to choose from Sister Lee awaits you.

Paul,

You are indeed the true neurotic. Don't worry, I will only hold the greens down in their own cesspit of sewage and corruption. They will be remembered as the party that voted against an ETS in 2009.

Poirot,

There is a budget emergency not an economic crisis. Already Standards and Poors have indicated that unless the budget begins to reduce the deficit that labor left, there is a risk that Australia will lose the AAA credit rating that Howard achieved after so much hard work.

Labor left the government spending about 15% more than it was getting in revenue, and that is not including Gonski, NDIS or the NBN fiasco.

Competence is not what Labor will be remembered for.

Good afternoon to you FOXY...

Lets just hope and pray that your last procedure was completely successful ! :-)

Notwithstanding a person's politics, in the days of Messrs Menzies and Whitlam and many of their contemporaries, debate though strident did have a measure of humour and respect attached thereto. Today, it seems anything goes; personal abuse, perjury, a total absence of mutual respect between members and senators and so it goes on.

In fact the general behaviour of some of us here on OLO and the Forum, is not that much better either, I reckon ? Many of us, with our acerbic remarks, odious comments and ingenious retorts, that are similarly laced with as much bile and lack of respect as shown by our errant politicians, of whom we continually complain, ad nauseam ? We humans are a funny lot, aren't we ?

SM,

A b...b...b...b..."budget emergency"!

(Not that you're into stupid slogans or anything like that:)

Explain to me then, why this govt in its 10 month stint has racked up debt at a rate almost double that of Labor?

And talking about "dishonesty", SM...

Here's your "heroine" Kathy Jackson finally being hung out to dry at the RC.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/kathy-jackson-admits-paying-exhusband-50000-from-union-slush-fund-20140730-zyg7n.html

"Health Services Union whistleblower Kathy Jackson has admitted to using funds from a union slush fund to write her former husband a cheque for $50,000.

As details of the payment and inconsistencies in her previous evidence emerged, Ms Jackson claimed she was being "ambushed" by the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption, which abruptly adjourned to allow her to seek legal advice.

When previously asked about a payment of $50,000 which she had authorised, Ms Jackson could not recall what it was for and said it may have related to one of the union's Victorian branches."

"Health Services Union whistleblower Kathy Jackson has admitted to using funds from a union slush fund to write her former husband a cheque for $50,000.

As details of the payment and inconsistencies in her previous evidence emerged, Ms Jackson claimed she was being "ambushed" by the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption, which abruptly adjourned to allow her to seek legal advice.

When previously asked about a payment of $50,000 which she had authorised, Ms Jackson could not recall what it was for and said it may have related to one of the union's Victorian branches."

"On several occasions, Ms Jackson admitted that evidence she had given at a previous hearing of the royal commission was inconsistent with what she has since learnt to be true.

She told the commission that she felt ambushed by new evidence, which had not previously been brought to her attention.

She asked for the opportunity to seek legal representation "to allow me to properly respond to these matters, as I've been ambushed"."

.......

Lol!

Dear O Sung Wu,

It's all a learning experience isn't it?

Most of us are still on our road to discovery.
Everything is relative, everything has its own story,
and everyone has obstacles to overcome. They are
our greatest teachers.

As I've written in the past, each of us goes through
transitions and transformations. The important thing
is as my father told me - that we acknowledge
them and learn from them.

On this forum I've had the pleasure of encountering
so many awesome people - these encounters have
uplifted me. Yes I have met some bad people along
the way. But I have also met some amazing souls, and their
light has shone out to me like a beacon.

Peter Slipper seems as venal and less street-smart than the usual pollie. But did this enter his performance as Speaker? Speaker is a very high office in the context of the parliamentary pantomime. It requires totally honest application to the responsibilities of Speaker, the most elementary of which is not to act in that role as a hack for any party. How did Mr Slipper's performance stack up against that of the current Speaker?

Bronwyn Bishop vs Peter Slipper?

Political bias versus a cab-charge bill - you're joking, right?

Big News, Who in the Australian Government has been involved in bribing Asian political leaders over asylum seekers, CORRUPTION! COVER UP, Big News.
Its about to bust wide open. The Mad Monk and his cronies better look out! The proverbial is about to hit the fan!

Poirot,

K Jackson is a union official, thievery is in their job description. KJ is a hero because she stole much less than the ALP stooges, and let the world know about them.

Juliar will always be remembered as a fraud for standing up and claiming that Thomson had her full confidence.

Until Labor lets the new government repeal its spending legislation, the debt is still Labor's.

DavidK,

"Bronwyn Bishop vs Peter Slipper?

Political bias versus a cab-charge bill - you're joking, right?"

Precisely!

It's bias with a capital "B" - and really indicative of the fruitcake ensemble currently running the country.

She's racked up somewhere around 150 Labor chuckouts to 1 LNP member.

She constantly intimidates Labor members as they are rising to make a point of order. She rarely listens to points of order before dismissing them...sometimes they're dismissed even before they are uttered.

She allows Govt members to waffle on anything but the question - relevance means nothing to her.

She allows Govt members to refer to Opposition Members in an unparliamentary manner.

She spends most of her time pausing to try and work out who she's calling - and often gets titles mixed up.

She is a disgrace of the highest order - and brings the honourable role of Speaker into the most exquisite disrepute.

"around 150 Labor chuckouts to 1 LNP member." Poirot, what did that LNP member do? Cut off Abbott's head, and crap down his throat! Or was he just some 'token black' who wondered in the wrong door.

Bronwyn Bishop has made a mockery of the Speaker's role.

Paul,

It was a National Party Member who began yelling from his back bench...and decided to keep on doing it when told to stop.

Bronnie was actually highly amused and was grinning from ear to ear when she tossed him.

Apparently it was all a big joke to her - so he wasn't given the rancid School Ma'am treatment at all.

What else would one expect from a Speaker who sits in on Cabinet meetings?

Dear Shadow Minister,

You're accusing Julia Gillard of being a fraud for
stating that she had confidence in one of her
Ministers against whom charges at the time were
yet to be proven? Then I assume you think our
current PM is also a fraud for doing the same thing
by supporting his Ministers as well?
Sinodinos comes to mind - just to name one.

cont'd ...

Dear Shadow Minister,

The following link may jog your memory:

http://www.news.com.au/national/icac-inquiry-arthur-sinodinos-account-of-his-time-with-australian-water-just-does-not-wash/story-fncynjr2-1226874045663

"Cabcharge bill" Really, Slipper got done for fraud.

In parliament Labor MPs had 6 years of getting away with bad behaviour because their speaker was biased towards them, now that they are being pulled up for performances that would make a soccer player blush they are whining.

Paul1405 has written:
"Big News, Who in the Australian Government has been involved in bribing Asian political leaders over asylum seekers, CORRUPTION! COVER UP, Big News.
Its about to bust wide open. The Mad Monk and his cronies better look out! The proverbial is about to hit the fan!"

Here's the goods on this scandal

The "Australian Supreme Court" (whatever that is) has issued a suppression order on disclosure of specified corrupt acts by a nominated gaggle of corrupt Asian rulers. A challenge to the quality of Australians' hands and knees. See https://wikileaks.org/aus-suppression-order/ before the ASIO secret police get to take it down.

Turns out the judicial corruption emanates from Abbott's Opus Dei government to protect secret relationships between themselves and leading pollies in Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam. See http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/wikileaks-australia-super-injunction-bribery-allegations?CMP=ema_632

That URL nailing the corruption of Abbott's government, Asian pollies and some judicial corruption to cap anything even government-linked courts in some Asian countries can serve up is

https://wikileaks.org/aus-suppression-order/

Dear Shadow Minister,

You're criticising the highly respected (by all parties)
Speaker - Jenkins? The man who was objective and fair to
all while at the same time you don't say a word
about the bias of the atrocious
current Speaker - who should be kicked out on her ear for
her behaviour.

And you think your comments are going to wash?

You have no credibility whatsoever.
You're beginning to look silly!

That's right, Foxy,

SM is jettisoning his credibility here by supporting the right-wing nut brigade who have taken over his party.

This collection of rabid Tea Partiers are trashing the LNP brand at a great rate of knots.

So much so that they will have to reinvent themselves come dumping time.

The reality is that they are not a credible LNP...they are a FrankenLNP - and the sooner they retreat and go back to LNP basics, the sooner we'll have our democracy back.

Dear Poirot,

I'm thinking of a word that would suit
Shadow Minister -
a "Dorothy Dixer," - comes to mind.
Or perhaps - "Bagman."

"It was a National Party Member who began yelling from his back bench...and decided to keep on doing it when told to stop."

Poirot, A National Party member you say, humm... that's not unusual for a Nat Party member, don't they all do that? After all Nats are a demented bunch of fools at the best of times!
I think our mate Shadow could be one of dem der Nats! He possess all the required qualities to be a party member. He could be Barnaby in de-skys.

Paul,

Lol!...and who could forget Barnaby's excitement when he was asked his "first" question after months of being ignored.

He looked like he was talking to a lamppost, muttering away and cracking jokes to himself - and getting rather squawky.

Of course, he never actually broached the question asked (and, as we know, Bronnie doesn't give a fig for relevance)..just sqawked the House down, went red in the face and made a fool of himself.

Just to remember what Labor brought the last 6 years in power and what they will bring again:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bt3hGcECIAAlafF.jpg

Just remember Shorten tying himself in knots, absolutely supporting what Juliar said even though he had no clue what.

Remember the coalition of the corrupt and the lunatic parties. I.e, the ALP and the greens.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Still singing from the same song book.
Smacks of desperation.

Harry was biased, but he didn't have to deal with an opposition that behaved so badly.

If Jenkins was so good, why was he fired to put in the crook slipper?

http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1314/DisorderlyConduct

Opposition members are sanctioned 90% of the time no matter which party occupies that role.

You are a joke SM!

The information you link to does NOT include Bronwyn Bishop's statistics on her ejections.

It doesn't even include Statistics on the 44th Parliament of Abbott.

(in the 1st sentence of your resource kit)

"Of the 1,093 members who have served in the House of Representatives from 1901 to the end of the 43rd Parliament in August 2013, 300 (27.4%) have been named and/or suspended or ‘sin binned’ for disorderly behaviour in the Chamber."

Your bias makes a mockery of rational discourse in this place!

Okay, SM,

So by my calculations, Bronnie should have turfed around 14 or 15 govt members for her stint to be in line with others you have cited.

And it's not only her chuck-out habits, it's her whole biased outlook.

She regularly threatens Opp Members who stand up to make a point of order, telling them it had better be good or else - this before they've uttered a word.

She regularly casts a "blanket" general warning over Labor so she doesn't have to waste time warning each individual she's marked down for chuck-out...saves a bit of time when she's tossing them out like a morning paper delivery.

She very often dismisses points of order before the first sentence is out - and sometimes when the Member has merely opened their mouths and got nothing out.

She ignores unparliamentary titles being used by the govt...

She stymies Opp questions at the drop of a hat.

Points of Order on relevance are the most common...because Bronnie happily presides over the govt answering on anything but the question - and dismisses PoO if they're raised.

She's a disgrace....

P,

Now having just realized that your previous assertion that Labor speakers were unbiased has been sunk, you are trying to claim that BB is more biased.

Remember Harry Jenkins suspended a Liberal MP for 24 hrs just before the vote for the carbon tax in an act of political bastardry that makes BB look like a saint.

So as it slowly dawns on you that the only difference between HJ and BB is a lack of subtlety, and the only reason that this issue, and the issue of entitlements was raised is not because Labor was any different, only because dirt sticks more to incumbents than opposition.

SM,

Lol!...Would you believe that I never imagined an LNP Speaker would be completely unbiased.

However, I also never imagined an LNP Speaker would be "completely biased".

If you can watch a current Question Time and come away with the impression that Bronnie even makes the merest pretence of fairness...then you are Bonkers.

She doesn't even have the grace to pretend...just a teensy bit.

And it would be nice if she could reboot her brain just a tad before taking the Chair so she knows who she's referring to at any given call...coz she's fairly incompetent as well.

You must find it embarrassing having to defend these idiots who somehow or another found themselves in Govt.

Dear Poirot,

DavidK's earlier remark fits so well in
describing Bronnie, (and the usual suspects on
this forum):

"You bias makes a mockery of rational discourse in this
place!"

I love that statement, so apt!
Its made my day!

Thanks Foxy, a bit of mirth at the expense of fools perhaps – but yes, apt.

From November 2013 to end of March this year, there were 34 ‘sitting days’ in the House of Representatives.

In just 34 days, Speaker Bishop ejected 99 MPs – all from the opposition benches.

Bronnie ejected the Shadow Attorney General for interjecting with the phrase, “Madam Speaker”.

Apparently Bronnie didn’t like his tone ?!

Never before in the history of the Commonwealth of Australia has someone been ‘named’ for calling out ‘Madam Speaker’.

Bronnie had another Labor Member thrown out for laughing … What!

‘Bishop’s Bias’ - you betcha!

Here on OLO, we have ‘Shadow Minister’ linking to Parliament’s official web site to 'argue his point'?

http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1314/DisorderlyConduct

Note that from 1901 to August 2013, 300 members have been named/suspended/sin-binned.

Bronnie, in an illustrious 34-sitting day (dis)honourable role as Speaker of the House, ejected 99!

Compare that to the 300 ejected in the previous 112 years.

‘Shadow Minister’ – you have lost any credibility you thought you may have had.

"In just 34 days, Speaker Bishop ejected 99 MPs – all from the opposition benches"

Does the Opposition even have 99 MPs?

Perhaps there were repeat offenders and some out to prove a point.

So does the dubious honour lie with the Opposition and specifically the Opposition Leader, who should be insisting on better parliamentary behaviour among his crew?

Is there a prize for cracking a ton?
Time to go BB.

otb,

"Does the Opposition even have 99 MPs?"

What sort of stupid question is that?

99 removals under 94A...one of them being Terri Butler for "laughing".

"So does the dubious honour lie with the Opposition and specifically the Opposition Leader, who should be insisting on better parliamentary behaviour among his crew?"

I trust you saw Gentleman Pyne calling Shorten the "C" word.

The rest of us did.....

A Liberal member has been ejected 45 times, I recall. Was the Speaker at the time at fault? Can't remember any here questioning the particular Speaker's motives.

This is silly behaviour that can easily backfire on Shorten and Labor. How much are we paying them to waste Parliament's time?

"We wuz robbed, the umpire didn't like us". Yeah right!

otb,

If a Liberal Member has been ejected 45 times - then he/she must be a disruptive prat.

There's no excuse for Bishop ejecting around 150 members of the Opp to 1 LNP member.

It's not a matter of "we wuz robbed"...it's a matter of Bronnie being so biased she's ridiculous - and a laughing stock amongst seasoned journos.

Her cred is zilch.

But then again, 10 odd months down the track, so is the Govt's.

Poirot, there is no use debating the wrongs of Bronnie with Shadow. I had a debate with the lad about the extreme criminality of Boozy Barry and 'The Liberal Mafia' in NSW. There has been a conga line of high profile Liberals dancing their way into the ICAC to spill their guts about their corrupt activity in the state. Shadow sees no wrong in Liberal corruption, in fact he admitted to financially supporting it, by donating his school play lunch money to the cause, most likely used to buy another bottle of criminal plonk for Boozy Barry!

Bronwyn Bishop, is she the same 'silly prat' that made such a fuss on an airline some years back about wanting to use her mobile phone. When the crew said she couldn't (not that it would have worked where she was 30,000 feet above La La Land) she put on a great song and dance and had to be restrained by the cabin crew. Now she's the Speaker of the Australian Parliament, what a 'silly prat' that woman is.

Paul,

I raised the issue of the Labor speaker (supposedly required to be of the highest moral character) being convicted of fraud, and what I get from all the left whingers is that BB is slightly more biased than other non convicted labor speakers.

As for corruption you are trying to label BOF corrupt for accepting a bottle of wine, coming from a supremely corrupt party that accepted $1700 000 contrary to their own policies.

The fraud occurred when Mr Slipper was a Liberal National MP,

The fraud occurred before he became the Speaker.

David,

So while the LNP was trying to dump the crook, the ALP was elevating him to the highest office in parliament?

"So while the LNP was trying to dump the crook, the ALP was elevating him to the highest office in parliament?"

That was Julia Whatshername who brought the womyn's touch to being Prime Minister.

That's "spin". Slipper was convicted on July 28th, 2014 - you knew that.

"left whinger" - me? I was a 'centre right whinger' until Abbott hobbled Turnbull by one vote.

Abbott, as an extreme right-wing whinger, is turning people away from the centre right to the centre left.

I think I was the one who kicked off these comparisons of Slipper's PERFORMANCE AS SPEAKER with that of the current Speaker and this led to a torrent of claims from the "usual suspect(s)" about bias in Labor Speakers (as if that somehow excused the current Speaker). Maybe some instances or stats of actual bias shown by specific Labor Speakers would raise this above the level of bogan yapping. I have not been aware of egregious behaviour by other Speakers irrespective of party affiliation (Bishop excepted).

Btw I do not believe O'Farrell's polite acceptance of a trophy gift showed him to be in any real way corrupt and was disappointed when he felt it required his resignation as Premier. He came across to me as a competent and honourable Premier. Not so sure about his replacement.

O'Farrell resigned because he was caught out misleading ICAC.

And he compounded it by further by lying to the media scrum waiting outside.

DK,

Both Slipper and Thomson were convicted on evidence that was public knowledge when in office for Labor. Juliar staked her reputation on it and will go down in history as the most corrupt PM.

BOF made a stupid mistake and paid for it.

SM

The 'process of law' takes precedence over 'public perception'.

(you knew that too)

Quite frankly 'Shadow Minister' - I'm so over you blowing your trumpet.

Goodnight

"Labor's Speaker" was a long-term Liberal Minister whose previous escapades were well-covered up and excused by his own Party but who was betrayed in order to make way for the resurrection of a previous Howard Minister (with his own history of dishonesty).

Gillard's move was made in order to maintain a government majority and is no different from the previous Tory maneuverings that gave us the likes of Albert Field and attempted bribery of various Senators.

His "crime" was far less than those shonkey claims by Abbott and his cronies.

It's also interesting that the $9000+ that Abbott "accidentally" claimed to promote his book was actually paid back by his publisher, who has still not been reimbursed for her generosity.

David,

Ministers have been stood aside for far less, we Barry O'Farrell resigning over gift of a bottle of wine that in itself was not a crime, yet all the labor tragics leap to Slipper's defense of what was clearly fraud, and to Thomson's which was clearly theft. The evidence presented to the public was clear and damning, and Labor gave them full support.

To be convicted and jailed requires due court process, to pretend that until that has occurred that nothing has happened is pure hypocrisy.

SM,

Yoohoo

I thought perhaps since you are so against dodgy practices that you like to indulge us with a commentary on the latest from ICAC.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/icac-hears-that-liberal-party-boss-brian-loughnane-knew-of-developer-donations-going-through-federal-channels-20140806-100vlc.html

"Federal Liberal Party director Brian Loughnane has been drawn into a corruption scandal embroiling the party after an inquiry heard allegations he rubberstamped the use of federal channels to subvert the NSW ban on donations from property developers."

"An email shown at the inquiry suggests Mr Loughnane agreed for donations from property developers - which were banned in NSW in 2009 - to be made to the federal party to subvert the laws.
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“Brian Loughnane has agreed that for the time being the Fed Sec will operate on the policy…in effect, there is no benefit for a NSW donor to donate to via the Fed Sec, unless they are a property developer,” said Federal Liberal executive Colin Gracie in an email to Simon McInnes, the finance director of the NSW Liberal party.

The email was sent in July 2010."

Poirot,

You do realise that that is referred to as hearsay and has no legal weight whatsoever. For someone that declared Thomson as pure as the driven snow until convicted in spite of damning evidence, I see that as the height of hypocrisy.

The 'Conga Line' of corrupt LIBERALS continued today at the NSW ICAC. After the resignation of Boozy Barry over his lies about a corrupt bottle of grog. We now have 2 more LIBERALS committing political harry-carrey. Gone are LIBERAL MP'S the grub Tim Owen from Newcastle, and Andrew Cornwell the shonky member for Charlestown. Gone, Gone, Gone.

I am not totally heartless. and wish to express my sincere sympathy to my forum friend Shadow Minister, who must be devastated by the criminality of the Al Capone's that infest the NSW LIBERAL PARTY. Considering poor Shadow confessed to making a substantial donation to the party as part of the 2011 'Elect Fatty O'Barrall' campaign. Shadow skimped and saved to support Fatty, the pennies from his play lunch money went in, his tips from his paper run, went in, Shadow even sold his most prized possession a personally autographed photo of Little Johnny Howard, it read "To Shadow from your good buddy Jonky, Jonky..hummm who's Jonky, but more importantly Tony Abbott gave Shadow a whole 10 cents for his beloved picture. and the shiny new 5 cent piece his generous Uncle Thaddeus gave him for his 6th birthday, it all went in. After almost 5 years of tough saving Shadow had nearly 2 dollars to donate to the cause. And now poor Shadow has been duped, all his skimping and saving has come to naught, to see his hard earned being fretted away on another bottle of cheap plonk for Boozy Barry, my heart bleeds for the lad. sad, very sad.

Of course, you are right, SM.

But (snigger)...I can't wait to see where it leads.

Have you ever seen such a puerile bunch of desperados than these cretins in govt?

I mean, even you must realise what they are....and how limited is their tenure.

SM,

Sorry to rub it in, but these ideological goofballs continue to serve it up a daily basis.

Thinking that they had better have something on hand to compensate for their back down on 18c...they have pulled out a doozy.

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/george-brandis-in-car-crash-interview-over-controversial-data-retention-regime-20140806-101849.html

"It’s been called "excruciating" and "the most embarrassing interview you'll ever be likely to see".

Attorney-General George Brandis struggled to explain live on Sky News on Wednesday afternoon the details of his government's controversial "data retention" policy, which would force all telcos to keep logs on what their customers do on the phone and online for up to two years, so law enforcement agencies could access the information without a warrant when investigating crime."

"Earlier in the day, Prime Minister Tony Abbott said the policy would capture "the sites you’re visiting". But his office later clarified this was not the case and that this would require a warrant.

Now Senator Brandis has confused matters again, telling Sky News that web addresses would be captured by his proposal to strengthen the powers of law-enforcement and intelligence agencies.

After repeated questions over whether the sites people visited would be captured, he conceded they would be, but confusingly contradicted himself by saying his policy wouldn’t extend to web surfing.

He then attempted to clarify this by saying that the sites people visited would be captured, but not the individual web pages a person navigated to within a site."

Indicative of the calibre of Minister serving this govt....

Has there been a LIBERAL PARTY conspiracy? Was that LIBERAL PARTY MP Slippery Pete actually on a boozy buying spree to the vineyards at taxpayers expense to feed the alcoholic habit of his good buddy, fellow LIBERAL Boozy Barry!

SM and Paul,

It looks like the worm has turned.

"Free Market think tank the Institute of Public Affairs raised $10,000 an hour for three hours after emailing supporters asking for cash to fund an attack ad on Prime Minister Tony Abbott.

IPA Director John Roskam on Wednesday warned the government not to “underestimate the white-hot anger” of Liberals dismayed by the Prime Minister's decision to back down from repealing section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act.

Now it appears that anger has been converted into cash with the appeal topping $45,000 as of this morning, according to Mr Roskam."

"He told Fairfax Media the IPA had been inundated with donations immediately after it issued its plea and received more than $30 thousand in 3 hours.

"This is a really, really big deal for the grassroots," said Mr Roskam.

He said dozens of Liberal party members had threatened to quit because of the broken promise.

The ad will feature a quote from Mr Abbott arguing for Section 18c's repeal when he was opposition leader, in a speech he gave to the IPA."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/ipa-supporters-pour-in-cash-to-fund-antiabbott-ad-as-race-discrimination-act-fury-boils-over-20140807-3d9r3.html#ixzz39fcTLw3L

The IPA considered they had full rein on this govt.....getting a little bit tetchy now

Lol! to the max!

Slipper is probably a bit of a buffoon and is paying the price for dishonesty. It is galling for the rest of us to see the Obeid’s, Tripodi, McDonald and Co walk out of the courtroom smiling for the camera and untouched by the law for a far greater level of corruption than anything Slipper could even envisage.

SILLER,

Well said.

Regarding Slipper, more arrogance than buffoon I imagine.

Returning to the broad area of corruption, there needs to be mobility for all public positions, or at least some lengthy postings to other agencies, preferably in another jurisdiction.

Regarding political parties, regrettably the corruption is only to be expected, the environment and roles ensure that. Maybe parties need to be decimated at the polls from time to time to stimulate some turnover in the party machinery behind.

The best remedy is freedom of speech.

LIBERAL PARTY MP admits to taking $10,000 bribe. Absolutely shocking, NSW LIBERAL MP Andrew Cornwell has admitted he took a $10,000 bribe from a property developer and used it for his personal comfort. As bad as LABOR MP Craig Thomson! Will we ever see jail time?
No wonder the Liberal Government in NSW approves 99% of development applications. We now know why

Shadow Minister, well done and thank you for this thread. Your courageous effort in starting a discussion to expose CORRUPTION IN THE LIBERAL PARTY should be applauded. Have you spent the last week watching the roughs gallery of LIBERAL PARTY MEMBERS parading before the NSW ICAC.

Paul,

You are right, there are a handful of people implicated taking illegal donations in the NSW liberal party, and they have all been expelled.

Note that in cases of corruption in the greens and Labor parties, nothing is done to the culprits as they are assumed innocent until convicted. I notice that Milne kept the $1,7m bribe.

Shadow, there is no corruption in The Greens, no matter how much you beat that empty drum of your's, trying divert the corruption pointer away from your own party. How many Greens have been paraded before the ICAC the answer NONE! I can't speak for the well documented CORRUPTION IN THE LABOR PARTY, that is well known.
To describe the bus loads of CORRUPT LIBERAL POLITICIANS as a "handful" that is a joke. The Head Sherang himself, The corrupt Boozy Barry went, more and more are to follow. Lets hope they target the 'North Shore Mafia' and see if Tweedle Dum and his side kick, Tweedle Even Dummer, aka Abbott and Hockey pop up. No wonder Abbott opposes a Federal ICAC, you don't want to get caught in your own net, now do you!

Noting the title of this thread...I thought it might be useful to post this article clearly displaying the calibre of the up and coming Conservative voice in this country.

Here's the Young Liberals, Folks....

http://m.theage.com.au/victoria/misogynist-rants-from-young-libs-20140809-3dfhw.html

"The posts are another embarrassing blow for the Liberals - surfacing days after party chiefs warned MPs and candidates to act appropriately on social media - and have fuelled Labor's claims of a broader cultural problem within Liberal ranks."

Future Liberal leaders?...what a scary thought.

@Poirot, Sunday, 10 August 2014 10:51:58 AM

LOL, where is the equivalent exchange in that? Your tit-for-tat game playing presents an exasperating tease with your refusal to reciprocate fairly.

Returning to the subject of the thread, what guesses at Slipper's sentence?

Most would disagree that anyone who takes advantage of a position of trust should be held to account. Freedom of speech is the best protection.

My last para should read, "Most would AGREE that anyone who takes advantage of a position of trust should be held to account"

Oh! well Beach, based on the "penalty" for fellow Liberals like Abbott and Joyce for milking the taxpayer for thousands for bike rides and wedding trips. I suppose Slippery Pete could expect nothing more severe than a stern talking too, and then being sent home in a cab, at taxpayers expense of course.

With the heat that's being applied to THE LIBERAL PARTY in NSW by the ICAC, I understand why the 'Usual Suspect' Shadow Minister has done a runner, and shot through from this tread faster than Boozy Barry can down a bottle of Penfolds plonk!
Today a couple more lying Liberals bit the dust. Firstly the grubby member for Charlestown Andrew Cornwell chucked it in, then the unmitigated liar and MP for Newcastle Tim Owen done a bunk! Lying to the ICAC is a criminal offence, so lets see a couple of prosecutions!
By elections for the seats held by these grubs is going to cost the NSW taxpayer $500,000 so who should foot the bill?
For anyone who votes Labor or Liberal in NSW all I can say is fortunately for you its a 'secret ballot' and no one will ever know, certainly I would be to embarrassed to admit, it if I did.
p/s I though Liberals taking wads of cash in brown paper bags went out with Robin Askin, seems not, they are still doing it, did it ever stop?

Paul,

You will note that when bad eggs are found in the liberal party, they are immediately booted out of the liberal party. This is in sharp contrast the Labor party who had many MPs with hard evidence of enriching themselves to the tune of many $millions who had no action taken against them for years, and the Greens who having accepted a $1.7m bribe are pretending that nothing happened and are wagging their fingers at those who did the same.

My absence was due to my home computer crashing, not the extent of the left whinging.

SM,

"You will note that when bad eggs are found in the liberal party, they are immediately booted out of the liberal party...."

Certainly a goodly portion of the last dozen were considerably off.

I'd go back to the supplier and opt for a different brand.

SM <<and the Greens who having accepted a $1.7m bribe>> come off it, you know as well as I do ,it was a legitimate donation to the party, all open and above board. Unlike THE LIBERAL PARTY GRUBS and brown paper bags containing wods of sleazy cash.
The NSW Liberal Government is corrupt as was the previous Labor Government, given em' $10,000 and they will approve what ever you want, even a Plutonium Plant in Pitt Steet. LOL

Poirot,

The only problem is that the previous brand (labor) which was almost entirely rotten, and was tossed in the garbage after gouging tens of millions from the taxpayer directly into their pockets.

No one in their right mind would consider the mouldy green brand whose principles forbid corporate donations yet happily accepted the biggest bribe in history.

Lol!...SM,

But isn't it "amazing" that your preferred brand turns out to be just as on the nose.

Holier than thou - not!

Shadow, you did say you made a "donation" to the CORRUPT NSW LIBERAL PARTY before the 2011 election. Can I ask;
How did you make your donation?

A brown paper bag stuffed into Mick Baird's letterbox, or did you simply throw it over his front fence as you crused by in the Bentley. LOL

Answer this one, Who should meet the $500,000 cost of the 2 by-elections caused by a couple of LIBERAL PARTY GRUBS.

Every voter in NSW who believes in honesty in politics should VOTE GREEN! No question.

I like the way Jamie Parker (THE GREENS) put the acid on Baird over this corruption outrage. Baird ran for cover, as expected.

Paul,

No I don't follow the greens procedures for giving donations, and I donated to the federal liberal party who are not nearly as corrupt as the greens.

Poirot,

The coalition may be making unpopular choices now, but when it comes to 2016 and the voters seriously have to choose between the corrupt and incompetent Labor and the lunatic fringe greens I am sure that sense will prevail.

Shadow, another couple of GRUBBY LIBERALS exposed at the ICAC, this time it's ex copper and Police Minister Michael Gallacher and Port Stephens MP Craig Baumann. This pair of grubs have been running a shonky scheme to have developers illegally fund the 2011 election campaign of disgraced former MP Tim Owen.

Shadow, you are delusional, thinking there is no corruption in the Federal Liberal Party, what about Abbott and Hockey?
You said you donated to the NSW Liberal Party before the 2011 State Election, now you are trying to wriggle out of it. The LIBERAL CRIMNALS like to pass the dodgy cash to the Fed's so they could feed the dirty money back to the state branch. Was Abbott or Hockey the bag men?
Where did your donation go, a bottle of plonk for Boozy Barry?
Shadow I've got you on toast! As per usual!

Paul,

Another couple of GRUBBY GREENS exposed by the $1.7m bribe.

I said I donated to the liberal party. Having little interest in state politics, I wouldn't donate to the NSW branch as much as I wouldn't donate to the THIEVING Labor party, nor the CORRUPT GREENS.

It may have not have dawned on you that that there are no laws prohibiting developers nor corporations donating to a federal party, so the Laundering of Funds by the Greens (which you accuse the libs of) is not illegal.

What about The so called NSW Premier Mike Baird. When asked in Parliament to "guarantee that no other LIBERAL MP's, including (himself), had received illegal donations at the 2011 Election."... Baird was prompted twice to give a direct answer, but refused. No doubt, not wishing to be accused of misleading Parliament at a later date.
Outside Parliament Baird came out with a half baked statement saying he was honest. Well well well, is he as honestest as his predecessor Boozy Barry!

Another LIBERAL MP bites the dust, the grubby LIBERAL MP for Swansea Garry Edwards has chucked it in. Not good enough! Another one on the take.

Shadow standing room only now on that CORRUPT LIBERAL BUS. That's a non stop express service direct from Parliament House, to the ICAC!

Next week sees one of Hockey's boys take the stand at the ICAC. Shadow , the Commission is homing in on that 'North Shore Liberal Mafia', You never know before long, it could be good night Joe, good night Tony.

Then there is Newcastle Lord Mayor Mr Money Bags, Property Developer Jeff McCoy the Liberal Parties walking ATM wads of cash given out from the Benley

Shadow; Is it legal for one of your property developers to give out wads of cash in brown paper bags from the back of the Bentley? I await your legal opinion. LOL

Shadow, You did say you made a donation to the NSW Liberal Party before the 2011 State election. Is you name Jeff?

Shadow, unlike you I have no fear of answering your questions. Firstly there is no evidence of corruption in The Greens what so ever. You fail to answer any question put to you regarding the well documented CORRUPTION IN THE LIBERAL PARTY. The Greens will exposes your parties corruption at every turn.

ps, Who will The Liberals be running in the Newcastle by-election, may I suggest Al Capone would make the ideal Liberal candidate.

pss I ask again, Who should foot the bill of $500,000 for the by-elections to replace these LIBERAL PARTY GRUBS? Answer that one I dare you! I think you actually support Liberal Party corruption. Like Allan Jones, you think its okay if they can get away with it, don't you.

Paul,

Once the Grubby Corrupt Greens took the $1.7m bribe, they forfeited the right to pontificate on the issue. By all rights Milne, Rhiannon etc should all resign if they had any decency which they clearly don't.

Then after the Labor greens alliance pissing $billions against the wall and leaving Australia with a debt sentence for decades, Paul as a member of the economic vandals party wants to know who should pay for the by elections.

The question for you Paul is why you didn't mutter a word about expelling Thomson from parliament when clearly he was a crook.

SM...you must be spitting chips that your longed-for LNP rise has turned into such a debacle.

Whadaya reckon about Kathy Jackson trying to make out her stuff was done so long ago - it's outa bounds?

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/kathy-jackson-mounts-defence-on-time-lapse-since-alleged-fraud-20140815-104n60.html

(Yes, I know by your definition she's a dirty rotten scoundrel by reason of her union affiliation...but you did say she was a hero of sorts - didn't you?)

Lol!

P,

There you go again thinking that I give a rat's about KJ. No I never thought she was a hero, she is a crook just like every other union boss. She did Aus a favour by outing even bigger crooks in Williamson and Thomson.

What do you think of the thuggery coming out of the CFMEU and the MUA?
And what do you think of the MUA getting stuck with a $20m bill for damages?

"She did Aus a favour by outing even bigger crooks in Williamson and Thomson."

I can't remember Williamson's lot...but Thompson's stuff pales in significance against Kathy's....so it seems.

Whadaya reckon about Tones not declaring his daughter's gift of a confected scholarship?

P,

Williamson defrauded those he represented by about $1m, and Thomson was in on many of the deals for $100s of thousands, plus withdrawing money on his CC, which makes what KJ took look like chump change.

Frances Abbott the adult daughter of TA (a straight A student) got a scholarship and passed with distinction. The left whingers then claim without a shred of evidence that it is concocted. Bollocks.

My son got an academic scholarship to a top GPS school worth about $180 000. Was that confected? Should I declare it to the ATO? What do the mindless cretins from the left think?

"My son got an academic scholarship to a top GPS school worth about $180 000. Was that confected? Should I declare it to the ATO? What do the mindless cretins from the left think?"

If your son was the son of the Prime Minister and he was given one of only two scholarships by the institution (in a situation where the institution doesn't usually give scholarships - and where this one wasn't advertised publicly and granted after a single meeting)....you would be required to "declare" it in the parliamentary interests register.

Abbott didn't.

"....Frances Abbott the adult daughter of TA (a straight A student) got a scholarship and passed with distinction."

She got a 'Distinction" in portfolio design....

P,

How many meetings are required? By the time there is an interview, the credentials have already been ascertained, and the interview is to determine the fitness of the person to represent the college. My son had only one interview, as do most scholarship recipients.

FA as an adult got a scholarship (i.e. a reduction in fees) to attend an academic institution. Where on earth is there a requirement for anyone to declare the interests of their adult offspring. Only in the mind of left whingers.

".....Where on earth is there a requirement for anyone to declare the interests of their adult offspring...."

In that case, perhaps you should tell Tones. He's recorded gifts to Frances of negligible value, such as free tickets to marketing events.

P,

A scholarship is not a gift, it is generally an inducement to a student of particular talent to attend the institution because of the prestige the student will bring to the institution.

You nor anyone else has anything to prove that it was anything else. All you have is innuendo. You know bugger all about the scholarship, nor the selection process, and in typical left whinge hypocrisy, assume the innocence of Thomson in spite of damning evidence, yet happily declare the guilt of Abbott without a shred of evidence.

SM,

The truth is I couldn't really give a toss....if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...it's probably a gift scholarship to grab a little prestige and indulgence by taking advantage of someone's paternal connections.

But in general and back to main topic, to have you poncing around here oohing and ahhing over the left while your own team are up to their necks in it is fascinating.

No need to be so awkward and ungracious in defeat, Poirot.

Just admit your were wrong to sledge this fine young woman to get at her dad.

A repeat of your sorry sledging of Peta Credlin, again to get at the PM.

There was an election and you will just have to accept the decision of the people.

I'm not sledging the daughter at all.

I'm sledging the sort of "entitlement" that invents scholarships where there were (apparently) none, to give to people less deserving - but better connected - than others.

"There was an election and you will just have to accept the decision of the people."

And what a dog's breakfast we've all been privy to since....what a debacle of momentous proportions.

The poor old LNP brand is trashed beyond recognition - reinvention time a'comin'.

Poirot,

The point of the thread was that in spite of all the evidence against Thomson and Slipper Labor spent hundreds of thousands of their own money and taxpayers money defending them, and left whingers every where declared their innocence until convicted, yet here the LNP immediately expels any of their members that are implicated.

Then P you go even further and make scurrilous accusations against Abbott and his daughter with no evidence whatsoever. Your rational is "because it walks like a duck"? Really, that gives you carte Blanche to make up what ever you feel like and you do.

Sm,

".... scurrilous accusations against Abbott and his daughter ..."

"Scurrilous" no less!

(Have you been to Pyne and Hockey's acting school for Faux Outrage - 101?)

Coming from a bloke who's made his reputation on this forum for impugning any pollie not of the hard right, that's a laugh.

Poirot, "acting school for Faux Outrage - 101?"

Nothing could match your hysteria.

Damn, it is as though Joseph Granville had never invented 'Granville's Hammer', the electromechanical vibrator in 1883.

There is the whole electricity grid to serve you and bugger the global warming, eh what!

Lol!, otb...

"Damn, it is as though Joseph Granville had never invented 'Granville's Hammer', the electromechanical vibrator in 1883.

There is the whole electricity grid to serve you and bugger the global warming, eh what!"

Step right up folks!

otb is holding one of his famous Sunday avo sexist rants.

(Of course, he wouldn't have addressed a fellow poster in that manner if he'd been a male:)

LOL,

But with the greatest respect to your dear ambiguous pear-shaped abundant self Poirot, I always treat you no differently to a male, which you have complained about before.

Please leave those young women be, you have been very mean and spiteful to them. Play the man, Abbott, who is the actual target of your hysteria. Abbott is a a very fine family man, a model of love and commitment for other men, one would think.

You must believe that too, that Tony Abbott's family members are precious to him, or else you wouldn't launch those foul attacks upon them as his weak spot. You are shameless.

otb,

You sure do get snippy when someone puts a spoke in yer wheels....just when you were revving up to run over Foxy on the other thread.

Gonna have a crack at Poirot now, eh?

You say:

"Please leave those young women be, you have been very mean and spiteful to them..."

Aha! the faux protector of women's honour strikes again!

Shame he posted this to Poirot earlier.

"Nothing could match your hysteria.

Damn, it is as though Joseph Granville had never invented 'Granville's Hammer', the electromechanical vibrator in 1883.

There is the whole electricity grid to serve you and bugger the global warming, eh what!"

Nuff said.....

Speaking of hysteria. LOL

Poirot, the whole affair about the Abbott kid getting a so called "scholarship" from the Whitehouse Institute of Design in Sydney is highly questionable. According to a former school staffer Melletios Kyriakidis, The Abbott girl was a high achiever, but there were others at the school with much greater financial need. It is also questionable as to why Abbott had not declared the $60,000 "scholarship" on his pecuniary interests register when it was awarded in 2011.
What motivated the school to give Abbott a $60,000 fee reduction, and why did Abbott fail to disclose it. I smell a RAT!

What about this grubby NSW LIBERAL GOVERNMENT. Not since 1906 has a party holding a seat failed to contest it in a by-election, until now. Why wont this bunch allow the people of the Hunter to pass judgement on their CRIMINALITY through the ballot box?. Having already cost the taxpayers of NSW millions of dollars uncovering their shonky activities, all complements of the ICAC, this mob of gangsters are now going to let the taxpayers foot the bill for two by-elections, estimated cost $500,000, while Baird and his gang will be most likely holed up in some Liberal Party Hideout.

Baird should do the people of New South Wales a favor and go to the Governor and tender his governments resignation. Let the people choose, do they want CORRUPT LABOR or LIBERAL, or do they want to vote for honesty and integrity, a real alternative, and VOTE GREEN.

Shadow Minister, unfortunately condones CORRUPTION, sad but true, proving;
1... Its LIBERAL CORRUPTION and 2... No one knows about it! Sad but true.

More to come from the ICAC this week, with a look into the North Sydney Branch of the Liberal Party and "donations" (Hockey is the Fed Member for North Sydney). Could be very I.N.T.E.R.E.S.T.I.N.G!

Poirot,

I can see that you are out of your depth with these new words. Scurrilous means maliciously fabricating and disseminating stories that are damaging to someone, such as a girl accusing someone of rape in retaliation for being dumped, or in your case fabricating a "gift" of a scholarship to FA.

Impugning means disputing the truth, validity, or honesty of a statement or motive. Which I freely admit doing, and am usually proved correct, especially when there is hard evidence in the case of Thomson and Slipper.

Paul,

Scholarships are generally not awarded based on financial need, but on academic or other qualities desired by the institution to boost its standing. As a result it is not considered a gift, and TA has no need to declare it any more than the salaries earned by his daughters. Notably the institution has now employed FA and is reaping the benefit of the reduction in fees it offered her.

As for the Hunter valley, it appears that it will be contested by the nationals, the CORRUPT GREENS and the corrupt Labor party.

SM,

You'd have more credibility if you ceased banging the Slipper drum for his $900 offence...and addressed the tens of thousands in rorting by the rest of them - mainly the LNP - that sail along under the radar due to the Minchin Protocol.

And while we're talking of things that may be legally legit - there's a whole lot of dodgy morality going on with some pollies. Like Hockey lecturing people on being "leaners" when he lifts $270 an night expenses from the tax payer for staying in his wife's house when in Canberra.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/taxpayers-footing-bill-on-treasurer-joe-hockeys-15-million-canberra-house/story-fni0cx12-1227026624945

"The Treasurer has legitimately claimed $108,000 in travel allowance for 368 nights over the past four years including many nights for parliamentary sitting weeks where he has stayed at the Canberra house."

Yes, I know Labor pollies do it too...but do you think it's right to unload a budget that cuts under thirties out of support for six months while you're lining your own pockets with tax payer's money under such circumstances?

You say:

"Scholarships are generally not awarded based on financial need, but on academic or other qualities desired by the institution to boost its standing..."

Well if Whitehouse had a had a scholarship program, you might have a point. But they don't appear to have had one prior to "the scholarship". Even the daughter of the owner's free tuition "wasn't described as a scholarship - just free tuition.

I'm not blaming Frances for this at all.

You'd think Tones might have gleaned it was perhaps questionable and might cause some future heads to turn - and opted instead to pay the fees.

So Shadow Boxer, where will Mick 'Bugsy' Baird and his North Shore Gangsters' be come October, not in The Hunter, more likely out robbing property developers!

Gee, how gutless, the conservatives are going to offer up a couple of "Cow Cockies" for slaughter by the voters in the Hunter, come October. As a leading member of the conservatives, 'Spats and Straws Hats Brigade', may I suggest Shadow you do the right thing and offer your good self as a "Candidate" to the people of Newcastle, you could run on a platform of "honesty and integrity in government". Let me caution you however, just don't mention the 'B' words Bugsy Baird or Boozy Barry. On the up side I do believe when the voters of Newcastle are finished with you, the feathers will fall off in a couple of years but the tar will take a little longer! ROFLMAO

Poirot <<I'm not blaming Frances for this at all.>> I am, old enough to know better!

As for Horrible Joe Hockey, got one of his stooges before the ICAC this week. Lets hope he spills his guts, and when the proverbial hits the fan, maybe it will spray all over Grubby Joe. This bloke is as slippery as his ex cohort Slippery Pete, but you never know. They are all part of The infamous 'North Shore Liberal Mafia' Abbott, Hockey and Baird they're all members.

For those who though it was all over with CORRUPT LABOR, Not So! Also this week at the ICAC a LABOR GRUB, yep there are still plenty of them around. This times it a Ian McNamara, a ROBBO Staffer who is required to front up and tell all. McNamara has stood aside (big deal) while the ICAC delve into clandestine activities involving a couple of other LABOR crooks, Roozedaal and Tripodi.

Shadow when they refer to FAT GUTS in the LIBERAL PARTY, who is in the "shadows" with all this, is it FAT TINKLER or FAT BARRY, what do you reckon

Clandestine you say, Paul1405?

You deny that your favoured Greens would ever be like that of course. Nero's wife and all that. Or would they?

<Get Zed: CFMEU donates $50,000 to ACT Greens to bring down Seselja

In a last-minute bid to prevent the election of Liberal Senate candidate and former ACT leader Zed Seselja in 2013, the ACT Greens received the largest donation in the history of the party branch from the pro-Labor Construction, Forestry, Mining and Electrical Union (CFMEU).

Fairfax Media can reveal a $50,000 donation was made to the ACT Greens federal account, which can only be spent on federal elections or administration, on September 3 last year, in the dying days of polling. It was by far the largest single donation ever given to the ACT Greens party and was more than twice as much as was given to the Labor Party over the same period.

It was also four times as much as a 2012 donation from the CFMEU's ACT branch, which made a few Greens members ''uneasy'' at the time.

CFMEU ACT division secretary Dean Hall said the donation had not come from the Canberra branch but from the national division, meaning he had no direct knowledge of it.">

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/get-zed-cfmeu-donates-50000-to-act-greens-to-bring-down-seselja-20140817-101iyf.html

The Greens are intent on cannibalising their Labor partner.

BTW was it you Paul1405 who was indulging himself with fulsome praise of the CFMEU recently? By pure coincidence, of course?

Paul,

"Poirot <<I'm not blaming Frances for this at all.>> I am, old enough to know better!"

I don't believe it's fair to target Frances for the fact that a rigid system of entitlement and unfair largesse is slated for the children of the highly connected.

Yes, she is the actual recipient, but her parents are the ones financially assisted by not having to fork out for her fees.

And SM can bang on about "scholarships" all he likes...most institutions advertise them and they are vied for in a transparent manner. They don't usually appear out of nowhere and awarded in a one-off entitlement.

P,

If someone robs you at gunpoint, but only manages to steal $50, by your rational it should be downgraded to littering. Slipper committed fraud. A small stupid fraud, but fraud none the less.

As the expenses regime is somewhat ambiguous, the Minchen protocol was put in place to cover differing interpretations by the MPs. It is however, conditional on accurate records. If the dept of finance deems that the expenses do not qualify, they can be paid back without penalty. If the records are deliberate falsified, as Slipper's were, the Minchen Protocol does not apply and it is a police matter. I have explained this before, more than once, it has been explained in both the Newscorp and Fairfax papers and anyone with an IQ greater than a squirrel should have no problem understanding it.

As for FA, the Whitehouse institute is relatively small and while offering many scholarships, has done so in the past. To quote: "The institute has said the scholarship was given at arm’s length from the chairman and Ms Abbott received it based on the merit and quality of her portfolio and application." None of the whingers from the left have any of the information that FA presented in her application as to her qualifications nor quality of her portfolio, and even her detractors have to admit that she was a high achiever.

If FA got the scholarship on merit, it has nothing to do with TA, nor his position and as such does not qualify for inclusion on his list of pecuniary interests.

As for OTB's comments, it looks as though the greens are dirtier than they claim, and I guess that things will get bad for them when the focus of ICAC turns on them.

Shadow Minister,

Two words -

Arthur Sinodinos.

SM,

"As for FA, the Whitehouse institute is relatively small and while offering many scholarships, has done so in the past. To quote: "The institute has said the scholarship was given at arm’s length from the chairman and Ms Abbott received it based on the merit and quality of her portfolio and application..."

Oh really...care to name any other occasions when Whitehouse awarded a "Chairman's/Managing Director's Scholarship?" (not counting the one to the Director's daughter - as that as been slated as merely "free tuition".)

http://newmatilda.com/2014/05/21/leaked-documents-cast-doubt-abbotts-60k-scholarship-claims

"Documents obtained by New Matilda also challenge claims by the Prime Minister that his daughter’s scholarship was won on merit.

Rather than an exhaustive application process, Ms Abbott, aged 22, was offered the ‘Managing Director’s Scholarship’ at her first and only meeting with the owner of the Institute, Leanne Whitehouse.

The Institute declined to nominate any other occasion when the scholarship has been awarded..."

"Internal documents record: “Had interview with [Leanne Whitehouse]… – offered at time of interview.”

The next entry, on February 24, reads: “Student been offered ‘Managng (sic) Director Scholarship for 2011.”

Despite this, the Institute’s website states that Whitehouse does “… not currently offer scholarships to gain a place into the Bachelor of Design”."

Poirot, you are right as always, I'll bow to your superior wisdom about the Abbott kid. Just one question who got second prize? LOL

Beach, I do not back away from my praise of Brian Parker the Secretary of the NSW branch of the CFMEU. I find Brian very approachable, and straight forward, doing a top job for the NSW membership.
Nothing you post is of any relevance to CORRUPTION, you'll find no Greens down at the ICAC, the place is packed out with CORRUPT members of THE LIBERAL and LABOR PARTIES. too bad my boy, your wasting your time, fishing in a dry waterhole like that.

P,

New Matilda is not known for being factually reliable, and in this instance it has a huge vested interest in conflating the story. Chris Graham the owner and editor was in communication with Freya Newman before she hacked into into the Whitehouse system and stole some documents, for which she has been charged and as a direct faces a very bleak future. If she graduates as an IT student, having to reveal that you used your IT skills to leak or sell your employer's confidential documents will be somewhat career limiting. Similarly if Chris is found to have been implicitly involved, he too is looking at jail time.

On the other side of the coin, lets see what the Whitehouse institute has gained from the scholarship. It now has a highly capable well connected designer, and thanks to Chris Graham has more free advertising than they could have dreamed of.

And for what is TA accused of? Where the status of the scholarship as a pecuniary interest is debatable, and secondly where neither TA nor his government has, nor is intending to, bring in legislation that directly affects the Whitehouse institute. Not registering this is at worst an administrative oversight.

Paul,

The CFMEU is well known as the single most corrupt union in Aus, if the Greens had any moral back bone they would keep their distance.

<<New Matilda is not known for being factually reliable>> Not part of the Murdoch empire! Shadow is well known for quoting from Rups gutter press 'The Daily Telecrap' when it suits, and that's often. Factually reliable 'TDT' what a laugh.

<<she hacked into the Whitehouse system and stole some documents>> and what did Barack Obama make of that? Again not working for Rupert? Jail. If your going to hack, you gotta do it right, serve your hacking apprenticeship with Murdoch's gutter press first.

<<The CFMEU is well known as the single most corrupt union in Aus>> Shadow, are you saying THE LIBERAL PARTY is not a union? I'll take that on board.

Good bloke that Brian Parker, top fella, number one with me.

More CORRUPTION in NSW! But its not THE CORRUPT LABOR PARTY or even THE CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY and we all know by now how CORRUPT those two are. Who am I referring to this time, sadly none other than THE CORRUPT NATIONAL PARTY, sad but true. The poor old 'Cow Cockies' have spent too much time in bed with THE CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY. Seems the Liberal have sneezed and The Nationals have caught a bad dose of CORRUPTION.
Well this bunch of CORRUPT hay seeds have firstly taken a $3000 "donation" from a property developer, Idwall Richards, to fund their 2011 election campaign, but worse still the CORRUPT NATIONALS took a so called "loan" of $175,000 from the same mob!
Its now looking very likely the good folk of The Hunter are going to be given the choice of voting for THE CORRUPT LABOR PARTY, or THE CORRUPT NATIONAL PARTY or the fair and honest GREENS! The choice is clear cut, VOTE ONE for CORRUPTION, or, VOTE ONE for HONESTY and INTEGRITY and VOTE GREEN.

SM,

"New Matilda is not known for being factually reliable..."

Well,Lol!...coming from someone who defends to the hilt the rabid right-wing miasma creeping its tentacles over our democracy.

I kinda expected that line.

: )

Poirot, Shadow is very much a Murdoch Man, gets all his "No News" from his copy of 'The Sydney Daily Telecrap'. Fighting for truth, justice and the Rupert way. What does that tell you?

Paul,

I agree with your comparison of Freya's hacking with the Phone hacking, and agree that she should face the same consequences.

The CFMEU resembles organised crime more than organised labour, and several CFMEU heavies would make Obeid look like a model citizen. It is typical of the CORRUPT GREENS that are taking donations from someone far worse than taking money from any developer.

The New Matilda is a far left whinge mouthpiece that publishes mostly left whinge polemics and will print pretty much any crap as long as it pushes a left whinge viewpoint, and often includes pieces from authors with no qualifications in the subject. It has no balance, no fact checking and often contains blatant falsehoods. As it is only a blog and not a newspaper it is not subject to any of the rigors that real news organisations are.

Only someone from the far left lunatic fringe would seriously compare the NM in same league as any of the tabloids such as the Australian, or the SMH.

Paul 1405,

You have considerable gall dismissing that $50,000 donation the Greens received from the CMFEU as reported in the Canberra Times,

<Get Zed: CFMEU donates $50,000 to ACT Greens to bring down Seselja

In a last-minute bid to prevent the election of Liberal Senate candidate and former ACT leader Zed Seselja in 2013, the ACT Greens received the largest donation in the history of the party branch from the pro-Labor Construction, Forestry, Mining and Electrical Union (CFMEU).

Fairfax Media can reveal a $50,000 donation was made to the ACT Greens federal account, which can only be spent on federal elections or administration, on September 3 last year, in the dying days of polling. It was by far the largest single donation ever given to the ACT Greens party and was more than twice as much as was given to the Labor Party over the same period.

It was also four times as much as a 2012 donation from the CFMEU's ACT branch, which made a few Greens members ''uneasy'' at the time.

CFMEU ACT division secretary Dean Hall said the donation had not come from the Canberra branch but from the national division, meaning he had no direct knowledge of it.">

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/get-zed-cfmeu-donates-50000-to-act-greens-to-bring-down-seselja-20140817-101iyf.html

Isn't the following the Greens policy on receiving political donations See here,

"The Greens are committed to:

prohibiting political donations from corporations;
adequate, fair and transparent public funding of all elections;
prompt and transparent disclosure of all donations on a public website maintained by the electoral office;
capping political donations at $5,000 per individual per year to a political party and $2,000 per individual per year to a candidate.
introducing legislation to prevent retiring members of parliament entering employment for two years with any private organisation that could obtain an unfair advantage."

However the Greens cannot abide by their own policy. They are cynical and shameless in criticising the major parties.

Beach, there is a difference between being reported in the Canberra Times, and being hauled before the NSW ICAC for CORRUPTION. Flog that dear horse all you like. Westpac donated $200,000 to the NSW branch of The Liberal Party in 2011-12. Am I jumping up and down about the huge donations the Liberals get from the big end of town, no because they were legal, well some were legal.
Beach,you foolishly call the Greens cynical and shameless, yet not one Green is under any kind of investigation. Please tell us why not? While you say nothing about the bus loads of CORRUPT LIBERALS fronting inquiry after inquiry, now who is being hypocritical. To stop all this corruption from political donations to the Liberal Party what is called for is 100% public funding of elections. Something Abbott opposes! Just like the way Abbott opposes a Federal ICAC. Yep, don't support something that is likely to turn around and bite you on the ass, right.

Paul1405,

The Greens presume to judge others and you have said plenty in this thread. If your tests of corruption are to be applied, the Greens are corrupt, definitely.

From the report, "It was also four times as much as a 2012 donation from the CFMEU's ACT branch, which made a few Greens members ''uneasy'' at the time"

and,

"CFMEU ACT division secretary Dean Hall said the donation had not come from the Canberra branch but from the national division, meaning he had no direct knowledge of it"

National division he said. Which presumably has the earlier political donations occurring under Bob Brown's leadership and continuing with that $50,000 under Christine Milne's leadership.

The national Greens are silent on who was involved in the deals and who made the decisions. It is unlikely though that the donations would not have been known about and approved by the Greens leader at the time. When will the Greens come clean on this?

Paul,

There are a number of flaws in the donation laws which all parties especially Labor have been exploiting.

1. The law exists in NSW not federally. Donations to the federal party are legal, as are disbursements from federal to NSW. (As the CORRUPT GREENS did.)
2. Secondly, the ban on corporations does not apply to individuals, so getting someone to donate personally instead of through his corporation is a loop hole that the CORRUPT GREENS exploited.
3. A organisation especially a union can accept donations (or in the case of the CFMEU extort them from developers, and pass the dirty money as a donation from the union, which the CORRUPT GREENS accepted.

To Beach, Shadow Minister and Al Capone

Firstly, to be a CRIMINAL you have to commit a CRIME, Al you can tell your other two buddies about that one, they unfortunately don't understand the concept. In the case of THE GREENS no crime , no criminal, no corruption. However in the case of THE CORRUPT LABOR and CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTIES we have party criminals committing crimes of corruption.
Moving on, in NSW we have an organisation called the ICAC, it is not The Independent Commission Against Condoms or Cheeseburgers, but that last 'C' stands for CORRUPTION! And we have had bus load of LIBERAL and LABOR PARTY luminaries, one after the other, fronting that Commission, and being found to be CORRUPT, resignations galore, resignations by the score! But not one GREEN!
Beach, has posted rubbish <<The national Greens are silent on who was,la,la,la etc etc>> THE GREENS have been totally honest and upfront about party donations, something I can not say about the LIBERAL and LABOR PARTIES.
<< If your (Paul1405) tests of corruption are to be applied, the Greens are corrupt, definitely.>> My test of CORRUPTION is being hauled before the ICAC and have the Judge say "YOUR CORRUPT!"

Just done a 'google' on "nsw icac corruption news", and who's ugly mush appeared at the top of the list. None other than the Mad Monk himself Tony Abbott!

Paul, You old hypocrite,

"My test of CORRUPTION is being hauled before the ICAC and have the Judge say "YOUR CORRUPT!"

Please name whichs liberals an ICAC Judge has declared corrupt. I assume that you will drop declarations of corruption against the rest.

In the mean whilst I will continue to acknowledge the corrupt behaviour of the Greens.

Shadow, are you in La La Land, what LIBERALS are corrupt, just last two week admitted their part in CORRUPTION by the simple act of resigning from Parliament Name names; Do i need to go back to Askin and Greiner, what aboyt Boozy Barry etc etc, the list is as long as your arm!

Last week the Member for Charlestown, ANDREW CORNWELL, and the Member for Newcastle, TIM OWEN, resigned after admitting to accepting thousands of dollars in donations for their 2011 state election campaign from banned political donors. CORRUPTION!

In an open letter to NSW voters, Liberals state director Tony Nutt ADDMITTED on Sunday the Liberal Party had to apologise for the ‘‘extraordinary and reprehensible conduct of a number of its elected representatives, members and activists’’.
‘‘The revelations have disgusted the honest, law-abiding parliamentarians, elected office bearers, members, donors and supporters of the Liberal Party,’’ Mr Nutt failed to name the so called good guys in the Liberal Party who were diguested...sorry Nutt they just done exist.

Shadow wont answer the question, WHO SHOULD FOOT THE BILL OF AN ESTIMATED $500,000 FOR TWO BY=ELECTION IN THE HUNTER CAUED BY CORRUPT MEMBERS OF THE LIBERAL PARTY?

Shadow as a true blue Liberal, and a socalled Mr Free Enterprise, he is happy for the NSW taxpayer to foot the bill for the CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY! Now who is a hypocrite

SM,

"Please name whichs liberals an ICAC Judge has declared corrupt. I assume that you will drop declarations of corruption against the rest."

I dunno about the ICAC judge...but this guys wife is "disgusted" with her husband...

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/im-disgusted-with-my-husband-tim-owens-wife-after-icac-fall-20140813-103fqp.html

"Among the torrent of criticism that has swamped former Newcastle MP Tim Owen, the most profound judgment came from his devastated wife of 21 years, Charlotte Thaarup-Owen.

"I am absolutely disgusted with Tim and what has happened," Ms Thaarup-Owen told the Newcastle Herald after learning of her husband’s resignation.

In an extraordinary development on Tuesday morning, Mr Owen confessed to a corruption inquiry that he lied about returning an envelope stuffed with $10,000 in cash to property developer and now Newcastle lord mayor Jeff McCloy."

Is that corrupt, SM?

Hi Poirot, maybe Abbott will put Cornwall and Owen up for knighthoods. Being such a good pair of upstanding Liberals that they are.
What about Tony Baloney, according to Abbott its all a case of "confusion". Nah Baloney, its all a case of CORRUPTION!

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/tony-abbott-blames-confusion-over-developer-donation-ban-for-libs-icac-woes-20140818-105d3h.html

Now Beach, you prattle on about a legitimate donation to The Greens, and I stress the word legitimate, a word the Liberal Party and its supports such as yourself (see note below) does not understand. A $50k donation from a legitimate source, there is that incomprehensible word again for you, legitimate, coming from the decent folk down at the CFMEU, who's only interest in politics is to see democracy prevail, and fight the dark forces of conservatism.
Now lets get this into prospective $50k is nothing when compared to the obscene 17 million bucks spent by The CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY at the last federal election. I ask how much of that $17,000,000 spent was legitimate! there is that incomprehensible word for you again!

I'll put the same question to you as i put to Mr Mute, Shadow;
Beach, WHO SHOULD FOOT THE BILL OF AN ESTIMATED $500,000 FOR TWO BY-ELECTIONS IN THE HUNTER CAUSED BY CORRUPT MEMBERS OF THE LIBERAL PARTY?

Note, I wont call you a true blue Liberal because I believe you are a "wolf in sheep's clothing" a Jim Saleam man and a anti-Fabian.
p/s That donation could just as easily have come from the WYMCA, as easily as it came from the CFMEU, the Christian Fellowship Members Equity Union.

Paul,

You stupidly nailed your colours to the mast with ""My test of CORRUPTION is being hauled before the ICAC and have the Judge say "YOUR CORRUPT!"

Now once you realised that you had shot yourself in the foot I gather that you are saying that your standard only applies to the greens, and that no one should criticise them for corrupt behaviour without judicial pronouncement but you can rely on hearsay.

I know the Greens, as well as being corrupt and incompetent, are sanctimonious and full of double standards, but you take it to a new level.

Gawd, paul,

Don't you know that someone can't be construed as "corrupt" unless the judge makes him wear the special ICAC neon flashing tiara as he's slinking out of the witness chair - the one that flashes "CORRUPT".

Sheesh....

Shadow, your are in free fall, clutching at thin air, the straws have long gone! What about that pair of nefarious nincompoops CORNBALL and OHNO! Last seen running down Hunter Street Newcastle, trousers a blaze'n as the good folk screamed, at the top of their voices;

"Liars, liars, pants of fires!" ROFLMHO (Rolling on the floor laughing my head off)

Next thing you'll be a saying, the founding father of The Liberal Party, Al Capone, done nothing more than the occasional slip up on his tax return! Shadow you are a crack up! and how about answering THAT question!

Hi Poirot, poor Shadow... he's lost the plot, shame. You know he's a chip off the old block, Yep, Great Grandpa Shadow was on the 'Titanic', when the ship hit the iceberg, the Captain gave old Shadow a thimble, and said "Start bailing boy!" Just like young Shadow is doing now. Well the 'SS Liberal Party' is about to founder on the Rocks of Corruption with the loss of the whole scurvy crew. Captain Boozy's gone, and the rest of the rats are jumping overboard as well!

Paul,

You made the stupid claim not me. I don't need a judge to tell me that the greens are rotten through and as corrupt as any other party.

A few new nicknames should be Backhanded Milne, or Greasy palm Rhiannon.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Peter Coleman wrote sometime ago that
whatever they may say most politicians do not
go into Parliament to bring about particular
reforms; they go in because they find the life
irresistible. Therefore pointing the finger at
one-side or another of politics with accusations
of corruption - when all sides have corrupt
politicians within their ranks is not very
constructive. We realise that you feel very strongly
in support of the Liberal Party and you feel equally
passionate in downgrading their opposition be it
Labor or the Greens but in the name of balance and
fairness - quid pro quo - you need to give it a rest
every now and again. The party that you so strongly
support is not squeaky clean either:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-06/icac-inquiry-into-nsw-political-donations-liberals-resumes/5650350

Foxy,

You need to give it a rest every now and again. The party that you so strongly support is not squeaky clean either

Considering that the thread was about Labor figure heads such as Thomson and Slipper being convicted after years of protection from Labor, to then Claim that all sides of politics are corrupt and that I should stop pointing the bone is a little rich.

The tiny amounts taken by the libs is dwarfed by the millions and millions taken by labor and the greens.

P.S.

By Paul's real criteria, Shorten is guilty of rape.

Dear Shadow Minister,

You seem to have missed what I was pointing out
which was that no political party is squeaky
clean. And you still persist with your usual
political agenda. BTW - I do not vote or support
any political party. I vote for policies that make
sense to me and the party that provides them.

I have voted Liberal - especially in
State elections. And I would happily vote Liberal
again - but not for the current government. They
still have to come up with genuine policies that
make sense to me.

Anyway, I can see that talking to you is quite
pointless and a waste of my time, and yours.

Keep on singing from the same song book.
I guess it's easier.

Another sorry day for THE CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY before the Commission.
With MR and MRS CORNBALL being grilled over their lies earlier this week about some bit of dodgy art work, come property developer donation, shameful absolutely shameful.

Shadow, lying to the ICAC carries a maximum 5 years in jail. How much time do you think the Cornball's and Owen's should get?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-21/former-nsw-mp-andrew-cornwell-denies-lying-to-icac/5686902

SHADOW HOW ABOUT ANSWERING THE QUESTION! Its not that tough!

WHO SHOULD FOOT THE BILL, OF AN ESTIMATED $500,000 FOR TWO BY-ELECTION IN THE HUNTER CAUSED BY CORRUPT MEMBERS OF THE LIBERAL PARTY?

Fair Question!

Shadow, what are you doing? Working on your response to the question. Trying to wriggle out of it as usual. Being a believer in the "user pay system", in this case are you also a believer in the "abuser pay system". Where by the CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY is made foot the bill of $500,000 to cover the cost of their members criminal activity!
Come clean, what about it!

Paul,

It may come as a shock to you, but I also have a life which does not involve answering stupid questions. I also note your complete failure to deal with the GREENS CORRUPTION.

The answer to the two by elections is simple. No one should pay, there should be no election as it is pointless. Firstly it would only be for 6 months, secondly given the trends of by elections to swing away from incumbents, and the razor thin margins that by which the libs won, the result is essentially predetermined. Secondly, whoever wins makes no difference whatsoever to the state parliament.

If there is only one candidate, there is no election. I assume that the greens' new found concern with fiscal prudence will ensure that they don't waste taxpayer's money by fielding one of their losers?

Secondly, a similar question for you. Are greens prepared to dig into their $millions of bribe money to pay for the $billions wasted on detaining illegals that came under the Greens/labor alliance?

There you go Shadow, barking up the wrong tree again! The tree of Honest Greens, when in fact the tree that you should be barking up is the one chock-a-block full of rotten apples from THE CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY.
You need a reality check, the fact is the LIBERAL GODFATHER in NSW Bugsy Baird went to the Governor and called 2 by-elections in The Hunter. The reality is these elections caused by CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY members is going to cost the NSW taxpayers $500,000. So I take it you are a supporter of the "Abuser pay system" typical Liberal Party rubbish!
As the honest Greens are believers in democracy we will be fielding candidates in both seats. I have offered my services to the party on polling day in the interest of democracy! It is a 2 hour trip for me but democracy must be served!
There you go trying to deny the good folk of The Hunter their democratic right to representation, with the nonsense <<there should be no election>> obviously given half a chance THE CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY would like to extend that philosophy to the whole state, no elections now or ever. << whoever wins makes no difference whatsoever to the state parliament>> LIBERAL CORRUPTION will continue unabated, yes more philosophy.
How about this <<the razor thin margins>> THE CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY holds Charlestown by 9%, not since 1906 has a party holding a seat in The NSW Parliament failed to re-contest that seat in a by-election, until now. Back in 1906 it was for the same reason, LIBERAL PARTY CORRUPTION, its been going on forever.
Thanks Shadow if 9% is "wafer thin" i'll agree THE/CORRUPT/LIBERAL/PARTY IS doomed in NSW and in a swag of federal seats here as well

Sing-a-long time 'LIBERAL LIE' (Jambalaya)

"Goodbye Joe you gotta go me oh my oh,
Oh! Liberal Lie, Liberal guy you gotta go oh,
Oh! me oh my goodbye Joe, you gotta go oh,
Me oh my oh Liberal Lie Liberal guy you gotta go oh,
Son of a gun we'll have big fun when you go!

Paul,

You still haven't got to grip with the depth and hypocrisy of GREENS CORRUPTION.

You have Back handed Brandt,
Rip off Rhiannon,
Mendacious Milne,
Shifty Sarah HY,
Lying Ludlam,
Slippery Whish Wilson,

A complete bunch of double dealing phoneys.

Lol!, SM,

"You have Back handed Brandt,
Rip off Rhiannon,
Mendacious Milne,
Shifty Sarah HY,
Lying Ludlam,
Slippery Whish Wilson,

A complete bunch of double dealing phoneys."

Is this what your commentary has come to?

How long did it take you to compose that load of childish bilge?

Parrot,

In all the years I have yet to see you criticize one person from the left. Paul has left like pigeon droppings hundreds of infantile ravings yet not one word from you. Your posts are as phony and pretentious as Paul's.

Paul,

You are as easy to wind up as a cheap toy, and this thread has given me endless amusement. I know as a green you are programmed to rave endlessly, but I am looking forward to the day you can hold a sensible conversation.

SM,

"In all the years I have yet to see you criticize one person from the left..."

Lol!...pot...kettle....bollocks.

Thanks Shadow, you are happy to see $500,000 of NSW taxpayer money wasted on by-elections in the Hunter caused by CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY MEMBERS. you only alternative is to deny the good folk of The Hunter their democratic right to representation. Shameful that you embrace the "abuser pay system". Is that official Liberal Party policy?

A bit of light reading for you.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/greedy-politicians-full-of-hot-air-not-heroics-20140820-10635i.html

As lying to the ICAC is a criminal offence carrying a maximum 5 years jail. DO YOU AGREE CORNWELL AND OWEN'S, A PAIR OF UNMITIGATED ICAC LIARS, SHOULD BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW?

This week should be interesting down at the ICAC with a Labor regular Joe 'Corrupt' Tripodi due for an encore performance. Eddies gal, KKK is also scheduled to make a cameo appearance as well, along with a mixed bag of Labor all-sorts. As I said it should be interesting.

There goes the clockwork chattering teeth again.

Shadow, have you exhausted your puerile defense of the CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY, if you can call nothing more than a worthless attack on the virtuous Greens a defense!
I know as you have stated many times on the forum, that it is your fervent desire that when you grow up and graduate from "kindy" you hope to attend Clown School, and one day graduate into those lofty ranks as a full fledged clown. Your recent posts certainly reflect early promise in that field, many of them on this thread remind me of the stirring words of Harpo Marx, "honk, honk, honk"!

Now a hissy fit!

Shadow, I'll have to agree with Poirot on this. Your attempts at droll humor on this thread are appalling , silly name calling, something I would never stoop to, when discussing such serious matters. And that little ditty you composed was not funny in the extreme. As for referring to The Honorable Member for Charlestown Andrew Cornwell, as CORNBALL! Well what can I say, totally unacceptable! Andrew is an man of honor, selflessly serving his community! sad very sad.
So lift your game and all is forgiven.

Paul,

You still haven't got to grip with the depth and hypocrisy of GREENS CORRUPTION.

Just for you, if you haven't enough spittle on your monitor.

You have Back handed Brandt,
Rip off Rhiannon,
Mendacious Milne,
Shifty Sarah HY,
Lying Ludlam,
Slippery Whish Wilson,

A complete bunch of double dealing phoneys.

Scintillating stuff, SM,

See Nipp run...

See Fluff chasing her tail....

See Shadow Minister scratching around for something clever to post...(and failing miserably)

Honk!, honk!, honk!

How could anyone in their right mind possible vote for THE CORRUPT LABOR PARTY in the up coming Hunter by-elections. Revelations at the ICAC today reveal how THE CORRUPT LABOR PARTY hatched a successful plot to politically assassinate their own candidate and sitting MP Jodi McKay in the seat of Newcastle last time around. This mob are now asking the good folk of Newcastle to vote for one of them, as their representative in Macquarie Street. Please stop treating the voters as fools!

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/national/2014/08/25/icac-hears-buildev-funded-push-to-oust-nsw-mp.html

It is becoming clear that the only way the good folk of The Hunter are going to get honesty and integrity from their local members is to VOTE GREEN at the October by-elections, Its been clearly demonstrated you can't trust LABOR, and you can't trust THE COALITION!

Looks like poor old Shadow has become comatosed with the sickening revelations about his beloved Liberal Party down at the ICAC. That is fully understandable given the severity of LIBERAL PARTY CORRUPTION that has been uncovered so far, but this is most likely only the tip of the iceberg.
Two other Labor luminaries are about to go for the high jump. One rat who managed to avoid much of the flack from past encounters with the ICAC is about to receive both barrels. Who am I referring too, none other than the so called 'Mr Nice Guy' Eric Roozendaal. He is about to join that proven corrupt Labor grub Tony Kelly on the witness stand, should be most interesting.

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/disgraced-ex-minister-to-front-icac-probe/story-e6frfku9-1227036657838

Shadow I think that notion that Liberals are good economic managers is a bit of a furphy, while Cornwell and Owens sold their souls for a paltry $10k each, it seem Labors 'Honest' Joe Tripodi was stitching himself up a deal worth millions, with Tinkler's outfit, 'Buildev', all for life after politics. Is Joe an economic marvel?

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/joe-tripodi-ran-antilabor-campaign-to-secure-postpolitics-job-with-nathan-tinkler-icac-20140825-107yhx.html

Paul,

What do you reckon about this one?

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbotts-visit-to-cancer-hospital-used-to-justify-fundraising-visit-20140826-108nxo.html

"Prime Minister Tony Abbott told government MPs he had to schedule an early morning visit to a cancer research centre in Melbourne on Tuesday so that he could justify billing taxpayers to be in the city for a "private function" the night before.

Mr Abbott made the admission at the regular meeting of Liberal and Nationals MPs after being taken to task by one his own senators for turning up an hour late.

Several MPs told Fairfax Media that the Prime Minister described the private function as a "fund-raiser" to the party room."

"Several government sources told Fairfax Media they were stunned to hear the Prime Minister respond to Senator Macdonald's complaint by saying he had to schedule an official function on Tuesday morning so he could justify being in Melbourne for a fund-raiser the night before under entitlements."

Lol!...shades of Barnaby and his one day study tour of Malaysia so he could charge tax payers for his return from the Indian wedding.

Poirot, you got in before me I was going to post on that very subject this morning. In a word DISGUSTING! But given the cynical B we have for a Prime Minister can you expect anything less?
What did he say I'll paraphrase the cynical bastard "I had to drop in on a few of the terminals, otherwise I would have been in the S%#T collecting on me expenses! I can't think of any thing worse than been caught out diddling the old expense account, I should know, I do it often enough."
If you can't make a quid out of people with terminal cancer, what other use are they? Ask Abbott. The mans a GRUB!

Moving on,

Another miserable day in Sydney, weather wise, even more miserable for THE CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY down at the ICAC. They are falling like nine pins. Who is number nine on the list of CORRUPT LIBERAL'S to fall the member for Londonderry, Bart Bassett. Yep 'Good Old Bart's' has bit the dust!
I used the word DISGUSTING previously to describe ABBOTT, we can also apply the same word to 'Good Old Bart' DISGUSTING!
Seems Bart like many in his party is also up to his neck in illegal political donations.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/liberal-mp-bart-bassett-joins-crossbench-as-icac-investigates-whether-he-was-influenced-by-nathan-tinkler-company-20140827-108uxb.html

So what's new you ask.
Plenty.

One of the permanent fixtures down at the ICAC, CORRUPT LABOR'S, 'Honest' Joe Tripodi, has been up to it yet again. Seems 'Honest' Joe has been working hand in glove with crook developer Nathen Tinkler, doing Tinkler plenty of favors when he was in government.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/saint-joseph-of-tripodi-icac-hears-corrupt-former-labor-mp-gave-land-tipoff-to-nathan-tinklers-company-20140826-108czk.html

Its about time we stopped moving these CORRUPT LIBERAL and LABOR MEMBERS to the cross benchers and started moving them to Long Bay Jail! Before you know it Long Bay would be their biggest party branches in the state.

Shadow, I am becoming very concerned about The Greens only lower house member in The NSW Parliament, that honest man of integrity, Jamie Parker MP for Balmain. Poor Jamie is being forced to sit on the crossbenches with a putrid bunch of rotten Liberals. Is there a cesspool near you that you can recommend committing those CORRUPT LIBERAL to?

A sorry rogues gallery of LIBERAL CORRUPTION.

Boozy Barry O'Farrell
Chris Hartcher
Darren Webber
Marie Ficarra
Mike Gallacher
Bart Bessett
Chris Spence
Tim Owen
Andrew Cornwell
Garry Edwards

As the facts come out I fully expect the above list to grow substantially. In fact there is not one Coalition MP in the NSW Parliament that should not come under the suspicion of CORRUPTION!

Paul,

I am also sorry that the ex liberals would be exposed to GREEN CORRUPTION.

A sorry rogues gallery of GREENS CORRUPTION.

Back handed Brandt,
Rip off Rhiannon,
Mendacious Milne,
Shifty Sarah HY,
Lying Ludlam,
Slippery Whish Wilson, and now
Pickpocket Parker.

Shadow, the difference between your list, and my list is; Your list is made up of honest people with integrity, Greens. My list on the other hand is made of Liberal Party scoundrels and season ticket holders down at the ICAC. The Commission is crawling with LIBERAL AND LABOR PARTY CRIMINALS, but not a Green to be seen.
Shadow, are your a member of the "Free Enterprise Foundation"? Maybe you are the "Free Enterprise Foundation". RMOIALMAO!

All of the below are guilty of accepting a $1.7m bribe

Back handed Brandt,
Rip off Rhiannon,
Mendacious Milne,
Shifty Sarah HY,
Lying Ludlam,
Slippery Whish Wilson, and now
Pickpocket Parker.

A sorry rogues gallery of GREENS CORRUPTION.

Shadow,

Love your list of Greenie names --very apt. LOL

Yeah, SM, SPQR,...scintillating stuff!

For 5 year-olds....

SPUD, yeah a great post, one of your best! Are you also like the poor little tyke Shadow, who religiously donated his play lunch money to the Liberal cause. Only to see it blown on a bottle or three of cheap plonk for his idol and father figure, Boozy Barry. He should have kept his dosh and bought an extra choco frog for play time. Sad very sad.

Then Poirot you'll have to grow a few more years before you can appreciate it --since most of your anti-Abbott dummy-spits pin-point you as being in the terrible twos age bracket.

Yup - SPQR...more scintillating rebuttal from you...

SPUD "Babylove" Nappies on spec this week at 'Nappies Direct;, $25.95 the big box, They've got your size too, 'jumbo', son tell mum, she might want to pick up a pack or two for the little SPUD. Don't miss a bargain!

p/s Could you also pick a pack for Shadow, all the LIBERAL CORRUPTION of late has caused the little tyke to s@#t his pants as well! He sure needs em! LOL.
Oh! how the mighty have fallen, Shadow and SPUD have been seen in Belmore Park at Central, sitting on a bench with Boozy Barry, all three take'n turns to swig out of a brown paper bag...a bottle of 'Penfolds' Brown Musket I do believe, not your 'Grange', but at 5 bucks a bottle who's complaining. Sad so sad.

Poirot, something you may find funny. I once attended a Liberal Party Branch meeting, back in the early 1970's. Imagine the scene. At he front they had a table with a nice white linen table cloth, set up. At one end a 8"x10" photo of a very young and I must say, very radiant Queen Elizabeth II looked 20 years old. At the other end a similar picture of 'Pig Iron' Bob Menzies, looking not so radiant. Well, at the table sat an old bloke about 80, I do believe he was the Branch President, and two old women, the treasure and I think branch secretary, 90 if they were a day. A collection of all sorts mad up the membership, about 10 in total. They sung 'Advance Australia Fair' then they got down to business, I recall this old chook, with blue hair, delivered a speech about the communist menace over running Australia, the Libs were very big on communists in those days. At the end they sung 'God Save the Queen'. We all retired to the back of the room and had tea and scones, they thanked me for comings and hoped I would soon be joining them, fat chance, and then we all went home. I suppose nothing has changed, after all they are conservatives.

Paul,

I do find it funny...sounds like a set piece in a movie.

A slice of bygone middle-class Australia.

Paul,

If your only recollection of liberals was a meeting 40 years ago, it is probably because you need adult diapers now and your brain has shrunk to the size of a walnut from lack of use.

I have for interest been to meetings of all parties, and the Greens were the singularly most pathetic. A collection of earnest liberal arts degrees completely clueless about anything scientific or technical discussing many ways to waste taxpayers money, the poor Palestinians, the nasty Americans and Israelis, and the "scientific" certainty of climate change, which gave them license to accept wild and woolly doomsday predictions.

I can imagine Paul with the following rolling naked in a pile of bribe money with hairy palmed Brandt, Brown eyed Bob, rank Rhiannon, diseased Milne, Slovenly Sarah, fetid Ludlam, sordid Whish Wilson, and now poxy Parker.

A sorry rogues gallery of GREENS CORRUPTION.

Excellent, SM...

"If your only recollection of liberals was a meeting 40 years ago, it is probably because you need adult diapers now and your brain has shrunk to the size of a walnut from lack of use."

That sounds almost as eloquent as your average Abbott or Hockey gaffe when having a photo op and presser at some pensioner gathering.

Are you their speech writer?

And your kiddy-name generator appears to be having a major malfunction spitting them out ten to the dozen....if you're not careful you'll use them all up and have no debate whatsoever come election time...Erk!

Shadow, Shadow, Shadow, I tell a story about "Goldilocks and the Three Bears" and all you can do is come back with a cockamamie story about "Goldilicks and the Three Hares". I can take insults any day, but your plagiarism of my stories is beyond the pale!
You said <<I have for interest been to meetings of all parties>> You fail to mention a couple of things, when you attended the meeting of 'The Tupperware Party' you had a riveting geopolitical discussion with the good ladies about the best way to store your 'kumquats' in the latest piece of microwaveable safe plastic. Then you attended a meeting of 'The Raving Loony Party', joined immediately, rising to the rank of 'Exalted Party Grand Poohbar' to which position you remain in to this very day.
Us Greens have our standards if you did indeed attend a meeting, obviously you failed to see the sign at the front door "NO RIFF RAFF ALLOWED and that includes SHADOW MINISTERS!"

Paul,

I know that there was no sign excluding riff raff, otherwise it would exclude all greens members and voters. However, there was a large box for developer donations preferably in brown paper bags and small unmarked bills.

All of the below are guilty of accepting a $1.7m bribe

Back handed Brandt,
Rip off Rhiannon,
Mendacious Milne,
Shifty Sarah HY,
Lying Ludlam,
Slippery Whish Wilson, and now
Pickpocket Parker.

A sorry rogues gallery of GREENS CORRUPTION.

So disappointing, SM...

Why are right-wingers devoid of wit?

Yes Poirot, very much so. As a comedian, poor old Shadow just can't cut it. The little tyke just got no humor about him what so ever! Sad very sad. As one of Shadows favorite home grown heroes Andrew Peacock oft would say (with a deep plumie voice) "THIS..is a very seriousssssssss....Matter!".
Interviewer; "But, Mr Peacock no one else is taking this seriously."
Peacock (with a deep plumie voice): "THIS..is a very seriousssssssss....Matter!".

Here is a clip of the Little Tyke himself introducing his very own home grown hero. Nothing has changed He's still got the same haircut and still wearing that suit. Note as 'Toe Cutter' Withers says at the end "Andrew Peacock He de man!"
What ya reck'n Shadow, Peacock would fit right in with the Abbott government.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_q2phn_2CQ

A secret recording of a Liberal Party Meeting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyCY4H64Jac

Can you pick which one is Shadow.

Parrot,

Why are left whingers so devoid of IQ?

Why does left whinger "humour", or what they find funny extend only to attacks on Abbott, his family, or the coalition, and is often abusive, obscene and wildly inaccurate. Whereas, fun poked at the left is met with outrage, violence and "protests" from "offended" professional protesters.

Paul is delusional if he thinks his thinly veiled insults are funny. His narrative is simplistic, predictable and as intellectually stimulating as pre school fart jokes.

Both of you are so "one eyed" as to make me believe that you have had the entire offending left brain surgically removed.

SM,

"Parrot"

Lol!....that's about as good as it gets from you, ain't it....

Scintillating!

Shadow, talk about IQ, what about those LIBERAL PARTY CRIMINALS down at the ICAC. Cornball and the rest of the motley crew, couldn't even hide their criminal tracks. Not exactly your criminal masterminds are they.

LIBERAL PARTY CRIMINALITY is spreading far and wide. Its in Victoria, and now it has spread to the Northern Territory. With ex LNP Deputy Chief Minister Dave Tollner calling it a party of "vipers".

Read all about it!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-29/dave-tollner-calls-clp-nest-of-vipers-and-nt-politics-immature/5707106?WT.ac=statenews_nt

Is Kristina Keneally the most naive Premier New South Wales has ever had? Labor's KKK, or Eddies Gal, as some like to refer to her as, took the stand down at the ICAC yesterday. Ms Keneally was "shocked" that former political ally 'Honest' Joe Tripodi had been involved in a dirty tricks campaign before the 2011 election against the Newcastle Labor MP Jodi McKay, Keneally described Tripodi's actions as "the uultimate act of betrayal". Does Ms Keneally also believe rattle snakes don't bite.
Today should be interesting with another Labor grub in the form of Eric Roozendaal back on the stand to give his version of events relating to the Tinkler Newcastle coal loader project.
The Liberal's not to be out done have a couple of scumbags of their own ready to perform today, no doubt out to make a show of themselves as well. Former Energy Minister Chris Hartcher and MP for Swansea Garry Edwards, will take the stand. Should be another most interesting ICAC day.
This is proving to be the best show in town. Where else can you get a professional troop of performing baboons from THE LABOR AND LIBERAL PARTIES to entertain, at no cost to you, its all being paid for by the New South Wales taxpayer! AND, this pair of grubby political parties expect people to vote for them?

Shadow, if you got any of those pre school fart jokes, post em up here and give us a laugh. You haven't done it yet.
This debate is so one sided, as all our debates are. I present stimulating factual comment about your CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY and you Shadow box around with namby pamby nonsense concerning THE HONEST GREENS. As a famous Australian Statesman once said when he was having a Churchillian moment "fair suck of the sauce bottle!" I think that statement was the beginning of the end. or was it the end of the beginning for our very own Elmer Fudd.

Paul,

I see your ears pricked up at the thought of fart jokes. I know that it is difficult to find adults outside the greens with sufficient mental impairment or senility to appreciate the simplicity of a good fart joke. Happily as I haven't suffered from head trauma and am older than 10 I have progressed past the greens simplicity.

Debating with you is one sided, and it is like debating a pigeon, The pigeon does not answer the questions, but craps everywhere and struts around like he has won.

Not only did the Greens accept a record $1.7m bribe in direct contravention of their own charter, but accepted a $50 000 dirty money bribe from the CFMEU which is run more like a crime syndicate than a union.

All of the below are guilty of accepting a $1.7m bribe and backhanders from the CFMEU

Back handed Brandt,
Rip off Rhiannon,
Mendacious Milne,
Shifty Sarah HY,
Lying Ludlam,
Slippery Whish Wilson, and now
Pickpocket Parker.

A sorry rogues gallery of GREENS CORRUPTION.

SM,

"....Happily as I haven't suffered from head trauma and am older than 10 I have progressed past the greens simplicity.....

Lol!...when are you planning to demonstrate it?

"Back handed Brandt,
Rip off Rhiannon,
Mendacious Milne,
Shifty Sarah HY,
Lying Ludlam,
Slippery Whish Wilson, and now
Pickpocket Parker."

Judging by the above - not any time soon...

Yesterday was a fairly predictable day down at the ICAC, with LABOR sleaze Eric Roozendaal along with LIBERAL sleaze Chris Hartcher taking the stand. Their "evidence" was what you would expect from a couple of scum buckets, Roozendaal, seeing nothing wrong with leaking confidential information while he was State Treasurer and Hartcher claiming he did not know Tinkler's property development company 'Buildev' was a prohibited donor.
The big shock came today when LYING LIBERAL MP Garry Edwards was well and truly exposed. This bloke sunk to a new low, even for a LIBERAL, Edwards tried to use a dead man as defense for his lies. Edwards claimed in evidence that he didn't know what was in a brown envelope given to him by Newcastle property developer Jeff McCloy. In fact he claimed he passed on the un-open envelope to the now deceased Max Newton, obviously thinking "dead men tell no lies" or the truth for that matter. The very next witness John Macgowan, a senior adviser to Nationals MP Duncan Gay, dropped a bombshell. He said he was summoned to a meeting with Edwards and his staffer Nicholas Jones at 9pm on April 12 this year. Edwards admitted at that meeting the envelope contained cash. Sensationally, Macgowen told the ICAC that Jones and Edwards agreed to conceal the donation, and if and when called before the commission Edwards would lie using the dead man Max Newton as a scapegoat! This is a new low for even THE CORRUPT LIBERAL PARTY.
Lying to the ICAC carries a maximum prison term of five years. Should they make the cell ready for Edwards? I think so! What about it Baird, is another by-election in the offing?

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/surprise-witness-says-suspended-liberal-mp-garry-edwards-planned-to-lie-to-icac-20140903-10boha.html

Not only did the Greens accept a record $1.7m bribe in direct contravention of their own charter, but accepted a $50 000 dirty money bribe from the CFMEU which is run more like a crime syndicate than a union.

All of the below are guilty of accepting a $1.7m bribe and backhanders from the CFMEU

Back handed Brandt,
Rip off Rhiannon,
Mendacious Milne,
Shifty Sarah HY,
Lying Ludlam,
Slippery Whish Wilson, and now
Pickpocket Parker.

A sorry rogues gallery of GREENS CORRUPTION.

Shadow, The Liberals have applied to rename their scurvy party, from now on it will be known as THE CORRUPTION PARTY, Bugsy Baird and Boozy Barry put their head together and decided the parties name should reflect what it stands for..CORRUPTION! very appropriate don't you think?
Don't you think if the criminals in the CORRUPTION PARTY had anything at all on the honest GREENS they would be running to the ICAC with it?
You claims are simply hot air!

Considering all their dirty deals and corrupt activity, the GREEN CORRUPTION PARTY certainly has a ring to it.

With a modification or two:

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/09/03/1227046/951722-688cbb8a-334c-11e4-ae40-081c2806a096.jpg

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2014/09/04/1227048/301007-c6c7f138-3414-11e4-ae40-081c2806a096.jpg

All of the below are guilty of accepting a $1.7m bribe and developers laundered money from the CFMEU.

Back handed Brandt,
Rip off Rhiannon,
Mendacious, let's call everyone terrorists Milne,
Shifty Sarah HY,
Lying Ludlam,
ISIS are misunderstood Whish Wilson, and now
Pickpocket Parker.

A sorry rogues gallery of GREENS CORRUPTION.

Come on, SM,

It's hardly worth clicking on this thread anymore.

Is that really the extent of your wit?

Really...is that all you've got?

Please try a bit harder....this forum is for adults, after all.

Sheesh!

A BIT OF IRONY down at the ICAC yesterday, cop this for a laugh, I can see the funny side of it. can you Shadow?
The 'Chief Copper' from THE CORRUPTION PARTY, formally The Liberal Party, Scalawag Michael Gallacher was forced to take the stand and explain to the World his own criminality. Amazingly, the law maker is a law breaker! Gee Shadow, the motley crew from your CORRUPTION PARTY are proving to be real ball breakers for Bugsy Baird, next thing you know they will be producing chatterer references from Eddie Obeid and Boozy Barry.

Paul,

I see that Christine Milne from the CORRUPTION PARTY has essentially called the Australian troops terrorists.

Makes a difference from simply taking bribes.

Shadow how do you "essentially" do that, please explain did she or did she not. While on the subject, how do you feel about the Abbott's Governments support for, by it own admission, an outlawed terrorist organisation. The government is providing military support to the PKK in Iraq. The governments own national Security Org say it is a terrorist organisation.

http://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/Listedterroristorganisations/Pages/KurdistanWorkersPartyPKK.aspx

Can't have it both ways!

I agree, some CORRUPTION PARTY MEMBERS (formally The Liberal Party) have been TERRORIZED lately by The ICAC, they have be ordered to account for their criminal activities, I fully sympathersize with them, that must be a terrifying experience for the bunch of crooks. Being exposed to the world in the way they have been.

Paul,

Are you completely disconnected from reality, or do you just feel that the greens would be best represented by telling at least one outrageous lie a day? Australia is not supplying arms to the PKK.

How do you feel about Rhiannon and Bandt molesting small animals?

Yes they did! they dropped a sh#t load of arms from our new ally Albania. they went straight to the PKK. Just to help you out me old salt I'll post a link from your favorite Murdoch gutter press 'The Australian' you can read all about it.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/raaf-delivers-weapons-to-kurds-battling-jihadists-in-iraq/story-fn59niix-1227045690825

Moving on! How do you feel about the ICAC molesting BIG ANIMALS in the form of members of THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formerly The Liberal Party)? By your own omission you seem to be a supporter of political corruption in NSW.

Shadow, I mentioned you to your favorite Politician Auntie Lee, she sends her love and wishes you well.

Paul,

Thanks for the link which shows less about arms going to the PKK than brown eyed Bob's unsanitary use of gerbils, or Aunty Lee's rampant anti semitism.

Just for you:

Brown eye Bob,
Adam Bent,
Contagious Christine,
Syph Sarah,
Septic Scott,
Loose Lee,
Wanton Whish, and
Poxy Parker.

SM,

I reckon you should give those tots at your local pre-school a break.

I'm sure they're fed up with having to produce your material for this thread.

Poirot,

I can't believe that you are stalking me to give me finger wagging!

However, I cannot take you seriously until you address the individual who has cheerfully admitted deliberately posting childish and inflammatory posts to wind up others, yet seems to froth at the mouth when his posts are mirrored against him.

Until then I will treat your childish Tut Tutting with the scorn it deserves.

Oh Shadow, to think on another thread I promised to love honor and obey the 'holy one', just for you. I even went as far as setting up a shrine in the corner of the lounge room to the much loved Tony. This is how you repay me! With more horrid cut and paste, besmirching the good Green folk with name calling. Brown Eye Bob, Loose Lee, POXY PARKER! I'll have you know Uncle Bob, Aunty Lee and Cousie Jamie are very sensitive people, when they seen your post, it took me hours to console them, the rivers of tears were uncontrollable.
Despite you slings and arrows I am willing to let by-gones be by-gones. Following is a link so you too, like me, can set up your very own 'Tony Shrine'. When it comes to the part about statues of the god and godness, simple substitute statues of Tone and Julie. UNFORTUNATE, I was unable to obtain the said statues of the two exalted ones, however I simple substituted two of Grannies Garden Gnomes 'Noddy and Big Ears' do you think people will have a problem thinking Noddy is female? Big Ears didn't.

http://www.wikihow.com/Build-a-Wiccan-Shrine

The kids gave me a new joke book for Fathers Day and a bottle of Penfolds Plonk, it reminded me of Boozy Barry, the plonk that is. Here one for ya!
Doctor, Doctor, everyone hates me.. Don't be silly, not everyone has met you yet!

Sorry about that, SM,

But all I want is you to inject some wit.

I'm up for some entertaining banter - and I suppose my critique is like me throwing rotten tomatoes at a vaudeville act.

Step it up a notch, and I'll happily munch away on my popcorn with barely a murmur.

And we've got this sordid episode being resuscitated...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-08/james-ashby-makes-claims-about-senior-liberal-mp-christopher-py/5726166

"James Ashby, the man who made sexual harassment claims against former House of Representatives speaker Peter Slipper, has claimed Coalition frontbencher Christopher Pyne offered to organise a lawyer for him and assured him of a job."

"But despite that, Mr Ashby renewed the allegations in an interview on Channel Nine's 60 Minutes, telling the program he spoke to LNP MP Wyatt Roy about the harassment, and that Mr Roy then spoke to Mr Pyne on his behalf.

Mr Ashby told the program he kept a diary and recorded visiting Mr Pyne's office.

"Said a lawyer would be paid for as promised and I would have a job - state LNP politics or federal - if I chose to come back," Mr Ashby said."

Loverly.....

Shadow, I have just read your latest post;

<<However, I cannot take you seriously until you address the individual who has cheerfully admitted deliberately posting childish and inflammatory posts to wind up others, yet seems to froth at the mouth when his posts are mirrored against him.>>

Allow me to assist, give me the name of this 'rabid dog' (frothing at the mouth), He may well indeed be a Labor supporter, nay, worse still, a possible Greenie. I will pursue him on your behalf to the ends of the forum, I'll leave no post unturned in my honest attempt to expose this dastardly character. When I have exposed him I will ensure he never ever obtains membership of our august Melbourne Club or any other establishment where honest members of The Liberal Party frequent. No riff-raff allowed!
Shadow I cannot thank you enough for showing me the error of my ways. I am of reformed character, I have now seen the Liberal light. Praise be to Tony!

Erk!.....

http://www.theage.com.au/nsw/icac-lifts-suppression-order-on-peta-credlin-and-paul-nicolaou-emails-20140908-10dr7v.html

Abbott is "absolutely confident" that the federal branch of the CORRUPTION PARTY will not be drawn into the scandal that has racked the NSW branch. This is despite THE ICAC having contacted Parliaments Speaker Brommy Bishop about the activities of the shadowy Federal identity 'The Free Enterprise Foundation' which was used to "launder" (such a criminal word) money on behalf of the state branch. Is Abbott just as confident as Colonel Custer was before he took on the indians? lets hope so! A look into the North Shore Mafia is certainly warranted.

Sadly, one must feel for the former Labor member for Newcastle, Jodie McKay who was stabbed in the back by members of her own party, Tripodi and Roozendaal. After the election Jodi was unemployed for six months, no one willing to give her a job as an ex-member of a despised Labor Government. Jodie may one day re-enter politics, I sincerely hope Jodi will join The Greens, its people like her that our party values.

Shadow, I tried to be a good Liberal supporter, but I read the SMH this morning and the latest revelations about the party made me sick! These revelations forced me to take to my Noddy and Big Ears, aka Tony and Julie, statues with a lump of 4x2. The shrine is now confined to the garbage bin where it belongs. Sorry old chap, I'll try to do better next time.

I see that crusty Christine Milne, winker Wish Wilson and other members of the CORRUPTION PARTY are suggesting that ISIS are simply misunderstood and that they should be given refugee status so they can continue their traditional beheading in peace. Rip off Rhiannon is keen to introduce them to the Jewish population.

Just for you Paul.

Brown eye Bob,
Adam Bent,
Contagious Christine,
Syph Sarah,
Septic Scott,
Loose Lee,
Wanton Whish, and
Poxy Parker.

Boozy Barry O'Farrell took the stand once again down at the ICAC and claimed he wasn't "The Big Man" Barry was stone cold sober when he said it, and for once everyone believed him! We all know "The Big Man" is developer Nathan Tinkler, who's development company Buildev made illegal donations to THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally The Liberal Party) with an eye on getting its coal loader project up in Newcastle. It now seems clear the standard price to get what you want in NSW is a $10,000 donation to THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally The Liberal Party). Sorry, coal Loader approval costs a lot more around $120,000 more. How much for a Plutonium Plant in Pitt Street, half a mill? Have to ask Buggy Baird that one, he calling the shots these days.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-27/bart-bassett-named-in-icac-inquiry/5699764

I see that crusty Christine Milne, winker Wish Wilson and other members of the CORRUPTION PARTY are suggesting that ISIS are simply misunderstood and that they should be given refugee status so they can continue their traditional beheading in peace.

Just for you Paul.

Brown eye Bob,
Adam Bent,
Contagious Christine,
Syph Sarah,
Septic Scott,
Loose Lee,
Wanton Whish, and
Poxy Parker.

Shadow, despite your baseless attacks on the honest and virtuous GREENS. I should shall not be diverted, never daunted, I shall continue to report without fear or favor on the sniveling, conniving actions of THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally The Liberal Party) as detailed at The New South Wales ICAC. I shall not be distracted in my earnest endeavor to expose the corrupt and criminal nature of your party, as well as that of The Labor Party.

This is my quest
To dream the impossible dream
To fight the unbeatable foe
To bear with unbearable sorrow
And to run where
the brave dare not go
To right the unrightable wrong
And to love pure and chaste from afar
To try when your arms are too weary
To reach the unreachable star
This is my quest
To follow that star
No matter how hopeless
No matter how far
To fight for the right
Without question or pause
To be willing to march,
march into hell
For that heavenly cause
And I know
If I'll only be true
To this glorious quest
That my heart
Will lie peaceful and calm
When I'm laid to my rest
And the world will be
better for this
That one man, scorned
and covered with scars,
Still strove with his last
ounce of courage
To reach the unreachable,
the unreachable,
The unreachable star
And I'll always dream
The impossible dream
Yes, and I'll reach
The unreachable star

and at the same time show what a bunch of corrupt criminals from both sides of politics, have been running New South Wales for years!

Paul, despite your baseless attacks on the honest and virtuous Liberals. I should shall not be diverted, never daunted, I shall continue to report without fear or favor on the sniveling, conniving actions of THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally The Greens Party) I shall not be distracted in my earnest endeavor to expose the corrupt and criminal nature of your party, as well as that of The Labor Party.

and at the same time show what a bunch of corrupt criminals THE GREENS are.

Brown eye Bob,
Adam Bent,
Contagious Christine,
Syph Sarah,
Septic Scott,
Loose Lee,
Wanton Whish, and
Poxy Parker.

THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally The Liberal Party) made it 10 out of 10, with another member Port Stephens MP Craig Baumann sent to the crossbench amid allegations he took secret developer donations. This brings to 12 the number of state and federal Liberal politicians who have resigned or stood aside following corruption inquiries this year. Do these people have no shame!

A regular at the ICAC, Senator Arthur Sinodinos, told the Independent Commission Against Corruption on Friday he did not accept "any responsibility" for the NSW Liberal Party accepting donations from prohibited donors during the past state election campaign. Another one with no shame!

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/icac-craig-baumann-becomes-10th-nsw-liberal-mp-to-join-crossbench-after-accusations-of-taking-secret-donations-20140912-10fu12.html#ixzz3DNUyedag

I fully expect we will see another 'gar gar' post from Shadow some time soon. All this LIBERAL PARTY CORRUPTION has overwhelmed the little tyke. The poor chap has an acute case of 'Stunned Mullet Disease' which forces his to lash out with a contemptuous attack on the honest and virtuous Greens. None of whom have been anywhere near The ICAC.
Shadow please just try reading 'Green Left' it will help to ease the pain you are suffering with all this LIBERAL PARTY CORRUPTION.

THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally The Greens Party) made it 2 out of 2, with another acceptance of corrupt money from the CFMEU. Do these people have no shame!

what a bunch of corrupt criminals THE GREENS are.

Brown eye Bob,
Adam Bent,
Contagious Christine,
Syph Sarah,
Septic Scott,
Loose Lee,
Wanton Whish, and
Poxy Parker.

As I predicted another 'gar gar' post from Shadow, the little tyke is infected with a worse case of 'Stunned Mullet Disease' that even I had anticipated. Simply reading back copies of 'Green Left' may not be enough to give the poor little blighter relief. If any Forumite can offer any possible assistance in treating Shadow's affliction please do not hesitate, post it here. I do fear the up coming findings by the ICAC into THE CORRUPTION PARTIES (formally The Liberal party) CORRUPTION, may be too much for the little tyke and it could well push him right over the edge! It could even see him tearing up his Liberal Party membership and joining the Labor Party and campaigning for thr re-election of Eddie who must be Obeid, and Sir-Lunch-A-Lot. I just hate to see a grown man cry.

THE CORRUPTION PARTY headed by Contagious Christine, are now complicit in the Union rorts that rip off workers to fill the unions coffers and to fight factional battles.

what a bunch of corrupt criminals THE GREENS are.

Brown eye Bob,
Adam Bent,
Contagious Christine,
Syph Sarah,
Septic Scott,
Loose Lee,
Wanton Whish, and
Poxy Parker.

How pathetic is The NSW State Labor Party. The very party that stabbed Jodi McKay in the back in 2011 in her seat of Newcastle, complements of that corrupt senior Labor figure Joe Tripodi, is now trying to pressure her into running for them in the seat of Strathfield. Jodi lives in the inner west at Ashfield and would be an excellent member of Parliament, but not for the Labor Party, how could she sit in the same room with people who were buddies of Tripodi, and make no mistake, they may not admit it now, but both Obeid and Tripodi had plenty of Labor mates when they were running the show in NSW.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/nsw-state-election-2015/jodi-mckay-refuses-a-parachute-20140915-10h4a0.html

Not all criminal action by polititions ends up before the the ICAC. In fact some actions could be justified under the guise that they are perfectly legal. The latest from THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally The Liberal Party) in NSW is to try and wrestle The Lord Mayor of Sydney job away from the progressive Clover Moore, and through some undemocratic maneuvering with the Shooter Party give it to one of their own. How do they intend to do this, by rigging the ballot box of course. Aided and abetted by these Shooters and Hooters in the parliament they intend giving business owners in the city two votes each, to residents one vote, how undemocratic is that! Clover is the best Lord Mayor Sydney has had in living memory and to replace her with a Liberal Party flunky by rigging the vote, would be an injustice in the extreme. The corrupt Barry O'Farrell introduced the 'Get Clove Law', which forced her out of State Parliament now they are trying to dishonestly steal the Lord Mayors job from her as well.

Former Liberal Party federal member Peter Slipper and as the thread title indicates Labor Governments Speaker, got a formal conviction, along with an order he perform 300 hours community service and enter a two-year good-behaviour order, this also ends Slipper's plans to return to legal practice after losing his seat in federal parliament last year.
In my opinion not undeserved.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/peter-slipper-sentenced-to-community-service-for-fraud-over-cabcharge-visits-to-canberra-wineries-20140924-10lbta.html

Labor Governments Speaker, got a formal conviction, along with an order he perform 300 hours community service and enter a two-year good-behaviour order, this also ends Slipper's plans to return to legal practice after losing his seat in federal parliament last year.

This goes along with Freya Newman (who I understand is of the green persuasion) being convicted of criminal hacking in order to muck rake. This also ends her career in IT. In my opinion not undeserved.

It is a pity that the others of the CORRUPTION PARTY such as Brown eye Bob, Adam Bent, Contagious Christine, Syph Sarah, Septic Scott, Loose Lee, Wanton Whish Wilson, and Poxy Parker don't face court for their crimes.

Shadow, I can't help but laugh at your pathetic attempts to link The Greens with crime and corruption. How is this <<Freya Newman (who I understand is of the green persuasion) being convicted of criminal hacking>> Unless Freya Newman is suffering from sea sickness or has grass stains on her then there is no connection between her and anything Green!

WHEN PETER SLIPPER WAS COMMITTING HIS CRIMES HE WAS A FULLY PAID UP MEMBER OF THE LIBERAL PARTY.

It is unfortunate that you have not posted one word condemning Liberal Party corruption, I take it you actually agree with corruption as long as it is in the Liberal Party. I make it quite clear if corruption had been uncovered in The Greens to the extent it is systemic in both The Labor and Liberal Parties, without hesitation I would resign from the party immediately. I actually have some moral fiber, unlike some.

Paul, I can't help but laugh at your pathetic attempts to distance the Greens from crime and corruption.

WHEN PETER SLIPPER WAS COMMITTING HIS CRIMES THE LIBERALS WERE BOOTING HIM OUT OF THE PARTY, AND LABOR AND THE GREENS WELCOMING HIM WITH OPEN ARMS.

It is unfortunate that you have not posted one word condemning Greens corruption, I take it you actually agree with corruption as long as it is in the Greens Party. If you had any moral fibre you would immediately resign from the Greens.

While the greens would seem to be naturally immune from business donations, being the economic equivalent of ebola, they had their chance to demonstrate their lofty ideals in two recent incidents, firstly with the donation from WOTIF then from the deeply corrupt CFMEU.

Did they take the moral high ground and follow their own guidelines. No, they took the money (far more than the Libs) and in doing so became corrupt.

So Paul, this is why I don't let you get away with your hypocrisy.

Shocker Minister, even you can't deny Slipper was a fully paid up member of THE LIBERAL PARTY when he was duding the taxpayer. LIBERAL PARTY members have turned crime and corruption into an art form.

Your nonsense claims about The Greens are all piss and wind, why are they not before a court if what you say is true. Because its all a fabrication by you trying desperately to deflect attention away from the true criminals in The LIBERAL PARTY, who's behavior you endorse.

Greasy palm Paul, even you can't deny Slipper had been dis endorsed by the libs when he was duding the taxpayer. GREEN Party members have turned crime and corruption into an art form.

Your nonsense claims about The Libs are all piss and wind, why are they not before a court if what you say is true. Because its all a fabrication by you trying desperately to deflect attention away from the true criminals in The Greens, whose behavior you endorse.

Shadow, you are definitely in La La Land on this, you ask;

<<why are they (THE CORRUPTION PARTY formally THE LIBERAL PARTY) not before a court if what you say is true.>> Where do think they are? Still in The Old Melbourne Club comparing d#%k's, like that coward (reference to his cowardliness during WWI) 'Pig Iron' Bob Menzies liked to do! THEY HAVE BEEN BEFORE EVERY COURT AND INQUIRE INTO CRIME AND CORRUPTION IN THE LAND! That is where they have been.
The honest and virtuous Greens might have been off with the 'Pixies', better than being off with the 'JAILERS' like your corrupt and criminal mob! I rest my case. I didn't know they had the internet in La La Land, when did you get it?

"The honest and virtuous Greens" that's an oxymoron if I ever saw one, you must be in cloud cuckoo land.

The only reason the CORRUPTION PARTY's Milne etc have not been dragged before ICAC for it's corrupt acceptance of donations is that ICAC only operates in NSW. Yet here we have greasy palm Paul slagging off a few libs for doing in a much smaller scale exactly what his CORRUPTION PARTY did.

Shadow, I am please they have finally got you an Internet connection in La la land, even if it is only a crappy dial-up one, supplied by Mal and Tone the Loony brothers. You may recall their unpopular TV program of some years back 'Don't Ask The Loony Brothers'...to do anything they'll stuff it up! Apologies to the Leyland brothers, well that's another 'John Dory' we'll cover that else where.
Shadow I have been the voice of moderation, nay the voice of reason no less, on this issue. I have been fair and reasonable to all parties. Just as I have unloaded on THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally The Liberal Party) I have equally unloaded on THE CORRUPT LABOR PARTY. ever word I post is the truth. You however to your detriment, have posted a litany of lies (I like that phrase, I had to slip it in somewhere) about the honest and virtuous, those persons of humility, they the salt of the earth, those that would fight the injustices of our times, hope I'm not getting carried away with this, those born in the image of the savior himself, our lord, Bob Brown, yes it is The Greens I praise, hallelujah, repent blasphemer! Come join us, come in from the cold, we shall rejoice together, we shall eat of the tofu (organic of course) drink of the elderberry wine (organic of course) and have a good old chin wag about those corrupt criminals in the Labor and Liberal parties. What do you say about that?

Oh! I forgot to add, there is no heaven for the wicked, its not to late my boy, repent and join the honest and virtuious GREENS!

Paul,

You more than anyone else is guilty of continuously spouting the most outrageous lies I have ever seen. Calling the greens "virtuous and honest" other than being redundant is one of the most outrageous of your lies.

You cannot deny that the greens accepted the biggest corporate donation in all time in Aus, and one from the CFMEU in direct contravention of their own charter and completely contrary to their own sanctimonious finger wagging. Anyone that claims otherwise is either a liar or mentally incompetent to tell right from wrong. (probably the CORRUPTION PARTY's defense when Crusty Milne is dragged before the courts.)

Oh my dear one, I see my friendly words have fallen upon deft ears! I fear redemption may be beyond you. Shame, a bloody shame. As that oft quoted saying goes "There are none so blind as those that WILL NOT hear!"
I'll give you my answer when 'Crusty' is dragged before the courts. Which I don't expect to be anytime soon, not with that conga line of Liberals making their way through the court system now. besides what is she guilty of? JAYWALKING!
I must add there is no finer body of men,.. (and women), than that Robin Hood of the Union movement, Brian Parker and his band of merry men,... (and women), from the CFMEU. No matter what false chargers are leveled by the dastardly Sheriff of Nottingham (aka Tony Abbott) in his Kangaroo Court, Brian and the lads will defend themselves vigorously. That to is another 'John Dory' and I'll deal with that elsewhere.

Paul, I am glad you find my ears deft.

The depths of your delusional state is that you think that the CFMEU is as pure as the driven snow in spite of the waves of evidence from many sources of deep and systemic corruption and organised crime within the union. Now I can see why by comparison you consider the greens virtuous. The problem is that most of Australia disagrees.

While you think that your corrupt party is the vanguard of a "progressive society" most of us simply think the lot of you are bat sb1t crazy, and would no sooner join the greens than a doomsday cult.

Shadow, I ap for the misspelling of deaf, my poor typing, its hard to see the letters through the tears, as I cry for your salvation.
Can't apply the word deft to The Liberal Party , they can't even hid their corruption.

Shadow, this has been another long discussion between us, and I'm please to say I think you are finally coming around to my way of thinking. Its taken some time but the signs are defiantly there.
Why I'm posting today is to say I don't think much will be achieved in fighting corruption in this NSW Parliament whilst Buggy Baird, and his CORRUPTION PARTY are in control. This has been clearly demonstrated by the recent actions of THE CORRUPTION PARTY Government in introducing undemocratic voting changes in The City of Sydney elections, trying to get the honest and virtuous (and she is not even a member of The Greens) Lord Mayor Clover Moore, the best LM Sydney has ever had, out of office. This scandalous action appalls me, and no doubt you as well. it might be legal, but it smells of CORRUPTION in my view.
Come March I known there will be a number of new faces in the Parliment, one of which will be the Greens Jenny Leong, member for the new seat of Newtown, Jenny will be joining Jamie Parker in the lower house, given a more balanced parliament, and along with The Greens stronger team of Upper House members and two in the lower house, I think reforms will be introduced that will see Labor and Liberal parties crime and corruption minimized in this state, and action taken to prosecute the guilty in those parties!

Paul,

I am beginning to believe that you are completely delusional. I would refer you to the definition of corruption, which apparently you believe is something you don't like. Corruption is dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.

I refer you to firstly

http://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/about-corruption/what-is-corrupt-conduct

While Moore is not a member of the CORRUPTION PARTY of Rhiannon and Milne, she is certainly screwy enough to qualify. The government has been receiving for some time complaints about the damage this woman's hare brained is doing to their businesses, let alone the $millions of public money wasted on largely unused cycle ways and hackneyed artworks to pander to an effete voter base within her precinct. However, her policies are costing the businesses in her area, and the thousands of people living outside the area needing to commute.

Given that the residents of greater Sydney are subject to compulsory voting, and that businesses contribute a disproportionate amount of the funds that Moore is wasting, it seems only right that these businesses are obliged to cast their votes. If in doing so Clover now faces the judgement of constituents that she has previously ignored, she has the option of starting to do her job properly or being replaced by someone that will.

While in your CORRUPTION party competence is a hinderance, the voters deserve better.

The nominations are in for both the Newcastle and Charlestown by-elections to be held 25th October. Both seats have drawn capacity fields Newcastle with 8 noms, and Charlestown with 9.
THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally the Liberal Party) is naturally conspicuous by its absence! The thinking of Buggy Baird and his cohorts must be the good folk of Newcastle and Charlestown are not worth representing, or could it be that their former representatives in those seats Owen and Cornwell were found to be so totally corrupt, that they are ashamed to show their faces so the people can vent their spleen on them! Along with numerous Independents Labor have nominated a couple of party hacks, I can not say if they would be the choice of Eddie and Joe, but they got the nod this time around. Whilst THE GREENS have nominated two outstanding candidates in Michael Osborne in Newcastle and Jane Oakley in Charlestown. Unlike The Corruption Party and the friends of Eaddie Obeid and Joe Tripodie, The Labor Party, THE GREENS believe the people are always worthy of democratic representation.

I see that THE CORRUPTION PARTY have nominated two DODGY candidates in Michael Osborne in Newcastle and Jane Oakley in Charlestown, firm friends of Eddie Obeid and Joe Tripodi THE CORRUPTION PARTY believe the people are always unworthy of representation.

Shadow, since your mob were too gutless to field candidates, we can at least be thankful that Developers won't be offering the mandatory brown paper bags with the usual $10 grand in bribe money for THE CORRUPTION PARTY candidates. How much 'Developer Money' do you thing will be going into the Liberal Party election fund for March?

p/s That was a rather pathetic response, can't you do better than that.

Paul,

The libs didn't get a $1.7m bribe that they can fritter away like the CORRUPTION PARTY of Crusty Milne on unwinnable seats.

Shadow, you have finally admitted The Liberal Party took bribe money. If it was not $1.7M, how much was it, more! less, how much? If they didn't fritter it away on unwinnable seats, what did they fritter it away on? Expensive plonk for Boozy Barry, holidays, buying works of art, paying off their credit cards. Please tell, what was the Liberal bribe money spent on? In Labor's case Eddie just put it in his pocket, what do Liberals do with their bribe money?

Paul,

It is good that you have finally admitted that the corruption party of Crusty Milne and Syph Hansen Young took the $1.7m bribe.

I suppose frittering it away on useless election attempts is better than spending on prostitutes like Labor.

Shadow, I visited the AEC web site, and yes there was a bona fide legal donation to the honest and virtuous Greens of $1.7M. What are you trying to say The AEC is now listing bribe money, I don't think so. No matter how much I 'Google' the words Greens and bribes, nothing comes up. But when I looked on the AEC web site for $10,000 donations to The Liberals like Owen and Cornball, there is nothing. Do a 'Google' on Liberals bribes and $10,000, and up pops the likes of Boozy Barry, Owen, Cornball etc etc. Shameful indeed!

Paul,

Now that you have take to the first step in admitting that the corrupt and criminal greens took the $1.7m bribe, you may begin your rehabilitation.

Perhaps you will distance yourself from the looney party of Crusty Milne and Syph Hansen Young and follow a party that does not rely on pharmaceutical help to form its policies.

Come on Shadow, is the Developer bribes so massive that THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally The Liberal Party) can't find room for a few backhanders from your Big Business masters like Pharmaceutical Multinationals. What you are saying is you follow the party that has its policies formulated by Developers (at a price).

Paul,

Are the Developer bribes so massive that THE CORRUPTION PARTY (AKA the greens) can't find room for a few backhanders from your communist masters like North Korea or China. What you are saying is you follow the party that has its policies formulated by Developers (at a price).

With less than 6 months to the state election, it will come as no surprise, following the fallout from the ICAC into the corrupt activities of a large number of Liberal Party members, that the rats are starting to desert the sinking ship of THE CORRUPTION COALITION. The first big scalp to go is Deputy Premier Andrew Stoner, who we are lead to believe is a clean skin, Stoner may well be sick and tied of reading constant reports of the corruption of his coalition partners The Liberal Party;
The other big scalp to bite the dust yesterday, and it comes as no surprise, was one of THE CORRUPTION PARTIES main players, former minister Chris Hartcher. Hartcher has been in the thick of things when it comes to corrupt activity. I fully expect before long, the Liberal Parties corporate controllers from the big end of town will be giving Boozy Barry the tap on the shoulder with the words "Its time to go... Barry!".
It is becoming clear that next March the choice for voters in NSW will be between the criminal and corrupt Labor and Liberal Parties and the honest and virtuous GREENS! In my mind a no contest.

Paul,

I see that you and your ilk love to make wild and unsupported allegations. I was thinking that the rabble that make up the far left whingers should be known as the GANG GREEN or GANGRENE PARTY, for their corruption, and poisonous influence on the body politic.

It must be especially galling for Crusty Milne, Syph Hanson Young, Lice Rhiannon and the rest of the GANGRENE's that Mike Baird's coalition is well ahead in the polls and NSW is not threatened by any form of gangrenous government.

Shadow, as a rusted on conservative, your admiration for THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally The Liberal Party) would be seen by some as "noble", but alas I hate to shatter the illusion, its nothing more than misguided.
Your feeble attempts at justification of conservative wrong doing, when confronted by the reality of their criminal activity in NSW, has been in a word, pathetic. Your feeble attempts to blacken and slander the good name of the honest and virtuous Greens, has been in a word, pathetic. Like many of the mindless, when confronted with the reality of truth, which I have presented to you on this thread, you retreat into a fantasy world of disbelief, shame, shame,shame. Do not be disheartened dear friend, I have much sympathy for your jaded condition. The cure is at hand, simply cast off the criminals and join the honest and virtuous Greens.

The next poll of Bugsy Baird's popularity will come on October 25th with the good folk of Newcastle and Charlestown casting their votes for replacements for that pair of Liberal scum bags Owen and Cornball. Shadow, are you expecting a "big" vote for your side? LOL.
Given the "opposition" in the form of The Scandal Ridden Labor Party that Baird faces, and given voter expectation of criminal behavior by the big two, no wonder Baird is more popular than Robertson. That is like saying Al Capone was more popular than John Dillinger, so what?

Paul,

as a rusted on left whinger, your admiration for THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally The green Party) would be seen by few as "noble", but alas I hate to shatter the illusion, its nothing more than misguided.
Your feeble attempts at justification of Gangreen wrong doing, when confronted by the reality of their criminal activity in NSW, has been in a word, pathetic. Your feeble attempts to blacken and slander the liberals, has been in a word, pathetic. Like many of the mindless, when confronted with the reality of truth, which I have presented to you on this thread, you retreat into a fantasy world of disbelief, shame, shame,shame. Do not be disheartened dear friend, I have much sympathy for your jaded condition. The cure is at hand, simply cast off the criminal GANGREENS and join the honest and virtuous Liberals.

With only a day to go before the good folk of Newcastle and Charlestown cast their verdict on the CORRUPT GOVERNMENT of Bugsy Baird and his mob, I have to unhappily report the CORRUPTION PARTY (formally the Liberal party) is at it again! Not content with costing The NSW taxpayer a half a million to run these two needless by-elections THE CORRUPTION PARTY now intends to once more put their grubby snouts in the public trough and slop up millions of dollars of public money to fund their corrupt election campaign in 2015. Shame, shame, shame! The spokesperson for THE CORRUPTION FIGHTING PARTY (formally The Greens) the honest and virtuous Mr Jamie Parker had this to say about the action of The Mob "fails to comprehensively to lock the door on corruption in NSW".

Shadow can you fill us in on what Owen and Cornball will be doing tomorrow? Doing time I hope!
Will report on Monday as to the outcome of these elections. I have every confidence in the 60,000 odd good folk up there not to cast a single vote for THE CORRUPTION PARTY!

With only a day to go before the good folk of Newcastle and Charlestown cast their verdict on the CORRUPT CANDIDATES of Crusty Milne and her gang, I have to unhappily report the CORRUPTION PARTY (formally the Liberal party) is at it again! Not content with taking a bribe of $1.7m THE CORRUPTION PARTY now intends to once more put their grubby snouts in the public trough and slop up millions of dollars of public money to fund their corrupt election campaign in 2015. Shame, shame, shame! The spokesperson for THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally The Greens) the dishonest and pestilent Mr Jamie Parker had this to say about the action of his Mob failing to comprehensively to lock the door on corruption in NSW.

Paul can you fill us in on what Crusty Milne and Flea Rhiannon will be doing tomorrow? Doing hard time I hope!
Will report on Monday as to the outcome of these elections. I have every confidence in the 60,000 odd good folk up there not to cast a single vote for THE CORRUPTION PARTY of Crusty Milne.

Finally Shadow Minister has rolled over and admits THE LIBERAL PARTY IS CORRUPT. Let me quote SHADOW MINISTER!

"I (Shadow Minister) have to unhappily report the CORRUPTION PARTY (formally the Liberal party) is at it again! Not content with taking a bribe of $1.7m THE CORRUPTION PARTY now intends to once more put their grubby snouts in the public trough and slop up millions of dollars of public money to fund their corrupt election campaign in 2015. Shame, shame, shame!"

Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 24 October 2014 4:12:48 PM

Shadow you have made my day, ADMITTING THE LIBERAL PARTY IS CORRUPT! I wholeheartedly concur with you they are indeed CORRUPT! A truly uplifting post by you me old salt, wonderful, simply wonderful.

Paul,

You have at last admitted that the greens are corrupt: To quote

"THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally The green Party)"

WELL DONE, Now you can leave the land of the idiots and join the real world.

Comrade Shadow, (formally a wayward 'love child' of the CORRUPTION PARTY (formally The Liberal Party) ) I am totally overjoyed that you have seen the light and rolled over. What are you comrade a Trotskyists or a Stalinists. No matter what, we embrace you, you are now officially a comrade. The Politburo of the party has decreed that from now on Comrade Shadow, shell be known as, Comrade Shadow.
We shall break tofu together (organic of course), we shall hug trees together (not organic but who cares), we shall smoke the weed together (don't matter if its organic or not, weeds weed), we shall hug Bob together (not sure if Bob is organic or not, could be), we shall not hug Tony (regardless that he is organic, like the stuff that comes out of the ends of cows, remember comrade no more Tony hugging , no matter what) I hope you are feeling as warm and fuzzy about this as I am Comrade Shadow. Wonderful, simply wonderful. The sisters send their love, Sister Christine, Sister Sarah and an extra special dose of free love for you from your favorite sister, Sister Lee, and the brothers also send much love for you as well.
Today Comrade Shadow, your first task as a foot solider of the party, handing out HTV's for The Greens in Newcastle, see you there comrade!

Paul,

I am glad that you have come to see the deep and chronic corruption and idiotic policies of the GANGREEN party of Crusty Milne Scott Crudlum and Flea Rhiannon, and wish to associate with parliamentarians with decent morals and rational policies.

My concern is however, that after years of believing the codswallop of the gangreens, that the mental stress caused by changing your thinking process to build policies based on facts might cause some stress and cause an embolism in the unused rational centres of your brain.

Comrade Shadow, outstanding work from you today, your efforts were tireless in campaigning for The Greens. Wonderful, simply wonderful.

I am happy to report that due solely to the efforts of Comrade Shadow, the forces of good, represented by the socialists left have combined to defeat the forces of evil represented by the conservative right. In today's by-elections up Newcastle way the early voting shows

LABOR PARTY 23574 votes
THE GREENS 11490 votes
THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally the Liberal Party) Zero, Zilch, None, Nothing, not even one vote, not a single bloody vote! Bugsy Baird and The Mob failed to record a single vote, and have been soundly defeated!

This outstanding result is all down to the tireless efforts of Comrade Shadow. I am happy to report that due to his outstanding work for The Party, Comrade Shadow has been awarded 'The Order Of Lenin' and raised to the rank of 'Commissar' The Politburo has decreed that from now on Comrade Shadow (formally Shadow Minister), will be known as Commissar Shadow (formally Comrade Shadow). I believe in no time Commissar Shadow will be Party leader! So Comrade Christine better watch out.

Please take no notice any posts under name of 'Shadow Minister'. Obviously work of CIA and Yankee Imperialist FBI. These evil imperialists capitalists forces are now using secret Yankee computer technology invent by imperialists puppet person named Gates of CIA to bring down great party man 'Commissar Shadow'. So from now on I will act as interpreter for peace loving 'Commissar Shadow'.

Take no notice of post like Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 25 October 2014 8:48:55 AM all is work of Imperialist from CIA secret George Bush agent. I keep you posted!

I see that the corrupt GAN GREEN party only got 11490 votes and zilch zero, bugger all, seats. This was obvious before the election, and was a complete waste of taxpayer's money.

So after all the posturing, the CORRUPTION party of Crusty Milne comes away with a kick in the crotch from the voters. What a laugh.

Please disregard above post. This is work of Yankee Imperialist CIA secret agent Gates!

Party leader Commissar Shadow want me to pass on to all good peace loving people his warmest greetings and much congratulations to THE CORRUPTION FIGHTING PARTY (formally The Greens) for their excellent result in yesterdays By-elections.

Not a single vote for THE CORRUPTION PARTY (formally the Liberal Party).

What a laugh, after all the posturing and posing the CORRUPTION PARTY of Crusty Milne scored a duck, Zero, diddly squat.

Paul, aren't you ashamed of the waste of Taxpayer's money in staging this farce election so GANGREEN posers could pontificate?

Another evil posting above by that nefarious Yankee Imperialists CIA Secret Agent Gates, pretending to be Commissar Shadow, no fool us! Do not be disturbed peace loving comrades, Commissar Shadow is good and well, spending well deserved holiday in his dutchie in Siberia. He reports he love Siberia, go swimming today if temperature go above -50 degrees, if not Commissar Shadow just sun bake on tundra with polar bears, drink plenty vodka. The Politburo is joyous to announce Commissar Shadow has been given great honor of 'Hero Of The Soviet Union', also like his much loved hero Comrade Stalin, Commissar Shadow is now raised to the rank of Field Marshall in Red Army. Considering he not even in army that bloody good.
Only in party 4 days Commissar Shadow, get Order of Lenin, get Commissar, get Hero of Soviet Union, get Field Marshall rank in Red Army and get free holiday in Siberian Gulag, no mistake, he in holiday Dutchie, no gulag yet for Commissar Shadow, that come tomorrow.

ROTFL

Even without the competition from the coalition, the voters gave the GANGREENs the one finger salute.

Crusty Milne, Adam Bendt, and Scott Dudlum, must be crying in their camomile tea wondering why even in a strong lefty seat they are so despised.