The Government claim to be giving refugees in the community slightly less than what they give Australian citizens - the Dole.

Now from the ministers mouth on Monday Quote.
"These packages are a small fraction of the cost of supporting an asylum seeker in the community on a bridging visa, estimated at an average of $45,000 per year."

There is a big difference between $45,000 and the dole.
What else are they getting?
What are the hidden costs?

That quote was from "Mr Morrison on 2GB Radio Monday "

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/few-asylum-seekers-taking-6000-to-return-home-20140624-3arcx.html

Lol!...as if anything Morrison spouts could be taken as "absolute proof".

This guy either feeds us absolute bollocks (as in his remarks directly in the wake of the Manus attacks)...or he seeks to suppress what's really happening.

Maybe you can drag out another source with a little more veracity?

‘morning Philip S,

“Absolute” wow! “Proof” wow, “SMH” wow, “Fairfax”, wow! Sensational.

Well, there you have it?

Phillip, why did you fail to mention the last paragraph from the article by Sarah Whyte in the link you provided?

“On Monday a Greens-led moratorium on deporting Iraqi asylum seekers back to Iraq failed in the Senate”.

Oh yes, I keep forgetting. Selective sourcing from your self referential network. Great analysis though and I have to admire the way you carefully avoided any critical thinking or original thought.

Well done.

I'd take an educated guess...

>>...the cost of supporting an asylum seeker in the community on a bridging visa, estimated at an average of $45,000 per year.<<

...that a good percentage of that is taken up by the salaries of taxpayer-funded paper-pushers in various government departments.

Poirot - Quote "Maybe you can drag out another source with a little more veracity?" Why just to satisfy your ego, another source is not required for anyone with a brain the simple fact he has stated that the "cost of supporting an asylum seeker in the community on a bridging visa, estimated at an average of $45,000 per year" is far more than slightly less than the Dole which the Government claim that is all they are given.

spindoc - I did not mention that because it has no relevance to the amount given to refugees, but I am sure you know that but are just being belligerent.

As per the rest of what you say I am stating facts from the person responsible for those matters.
Please explain how you can incorporate "critical thinking" into the comments.

Pericles - Probably right, to me it indicates something is very wrong.

Hi PhillipS,

Another thing you didnt pick-up on and which isn't factored into the costs/benefits is that a number of our best educational institutions have special reserved places for "refugees".

If you are a "refugee" just follow the red carpet.

PS Dont worry about Poirot no amount of reasoning would ever change her.

Philip, SPQR et al,

Do you have an annual price tag per person for installing asylum seekers in offshore detention camps while little or no "processing" is taking place?

I think you'll find that the costs associated with our foray into sadism dwarfs any costs applying to the accommodation of those already processed in the community.

(That's a bipartisan critique there, boys...just in case you're wondering)

Poirot,

Talking if dwarfing costs--I'll wager the the cost of running the Gillard HMAS taxi service far outweighed anything Abbott currently employs!

Community accommodation is one of those easy sounding lefty panaceas--but it has hidden costs:
--The resulting increased crime and the need to cover it up --since it is not PC to notice it.
--The need to tippy-toe around their special sensativities --since they are offended by many of our values --not least of which is free-speech.
--And, last but far from least practised, the cost in loss of community cohesion and security as a result of them going back home --once their meal ticket has been assured --to fight jihad in Somalia or Syria or Iraq

Still got that math problem, or is it a reasoning problem, Poirot.

The cost of keeping a thousand or so, & diminishing steadily, in off shore detention, is a hell of a lot less than keeping about the 80% of 50,000 a year, that would still be turning up on the end of a navy tow rope, if we still had the disgusting Rudd or Gillard in the lodge.

Thank god for Tony & a bit of sense.

Thank god for tony and a bit of sense. that is your opinion not shared by all Australians.

When has Abbott shown any sense at all. We were taken for a ride at the election with untold amount of lies and the election was a fraud.

The Abbott government is offering Iraqi asylum seekers $6000 to leave Manus Island and Nauru, despite spiralling sectarian violence engulfing the country.

It is also offering voluntary return packages to Syrian asylum seekers to return to the war-torn country, but says the offer has not been taken up by anyone who has arrived without a visa since 2008.

A spokeswoman for Immigration Minister Scott Morrison said asylum seekers who wanted to return to their country of origin, including war zones, were required to sign a statement stating that they ''understand the current situation in their country of return'

the cost of supporting an asylum seeker in the community on a bridging visa, estimated at an average of $45,000 per year."
Philip S,
I have heard from various sources that cigarettes, condoms etc are supplied to male only detention centres. I suppose because they're mainly adults they'd be getting a fair bit more than the $25/day that indigenous kids get for attending schools plus the adults would also cost more to fly aroung than the four times a year that indigenous kids get flown home for holidays.
I suppose the Government believes that there might be some chance that they'll eventually get some money back from the immigrants once they enter the workforce.
I just wish the Government would give some of our money ( it's not theirs anyway) to deserving pensioners for a change.

The bloody economic brown skins are living it up on welfare as proven by Morrison. Good thing he's stopped these potential terrorists from increasing their numbers here. They live in enclaves, don't assimilate, and often don't even learn English. There's a radical Muslim brown skin even trying to set up a debate that "honour" killings are justifiable.

Keep these Muslim terrorists OUT of Australia. Morrison should just deport them all, just drop them off on some far away desert island and let them bomb each other into oblivion.

Isn't it sad to think that every cent spent/wasted on this debacle was totally avoidable but for the action of one very arrogant K Rudd, who by the way is on a tax payer funded life of luxury FOR LIFE despite the damage and ongoing waste he created.

Every once of effort by the now Abbott government is needed in direct response to what must go down as one of Autralias worst stuff ups, all so he could get a name for himself.

While he can't fix the problem, the least he could do is forgo his tax payer funded windfall, cause let's face it, he's hardly what one could describe as a battler.

Shame on him!

More racism.
Come on Graham is this what you want OLO to be?

You lot will jump on anything no matter how evil and nasty it is. No matter how ludicrous or ridiculous. No matter that it comes from a proven liar in the most dishonest government in Australias history.
Bloody sickening.

Bridging visa $45,000 of which almost all goes to government agencies spying on them to find an excuse to deport them
compared to
immigration detention cost $1235000000 Thats $1.234 billion. BILLION
http://www.anao.gov.au/Publications/Audit-Reports/2012-2013/Individual-Management-Services-Provided-to-People-in-Immigration-Detention/Audit-summary
You idiots!
Evil, bigoted idiots!

<<You idiots!
Evil, bigoted idiots!>>

You can see from his post that Mikk just ooooooozes compassion and loving kindness

THE GOVERNMENT GIVES VERY LITTLE TO ASYLUM SEEKERS AND REFUGES IN THE COMMUNITY.
IT GIVES PLENTY TO AN ORGANIZATION CALLED
"SETTLEMENT SERVICES" AN NGO.
THEY THEN GIVE IT TO THE ASYLUM SEEKERS AND REFUGES

"You can see from his post that Mikk just ooooooozes compassion and loving kindness"

Not me mate. I ooze bile and cynicism. Rage and disgust.
Sickness and perversion(according to runner).

But most of all logic and reason.
Dirty words round here I know but someone has to do it.
;P

They can take the Money & go to another Country if they want to. They don't have to go back to their country of origin. I would have thought the young bucks would be itching to get back & into the fighting anyway. After all , it is their Duty as good Muslims, isn't it?

& Why is the Government cancelling Passports for people who want to get into the fighting (oh, sorry Charity Work.;-)) I would be helping them get there. Of course they wouldn't be allowed back even if they are Australian citizens. Naturally their family should go with them because it would be wrong to leave their family unprotected in such an infidel filled sinful country like Australia.

Spot on Jayb, let them leave to fight, then cancel their passports.

These so called Austrailains WHEN IT SUITS are simply showing their true colors and, they are also showing that for multi culturalism to work, certain religious beliefes should be left at the front door when they choose to become an Ozzie.

Of cause their other choice is if they can't come without their religion, then the simple answer is don't come at all because this is Australia and we are a peace loving nation.

All are welcome so long as they don't bring their garbage with them.

mikk: More racism.
Come on Graham is this what you want OLO to be?

Yes, it is a bit strange. Usually he is right on anything said against all sorts of minorities as long as it's not White Anglo Saxon.

mikk: You lot will jump on anything no matter how evil and nasty it is.

Of course, shouldn't we. I mean, if it's Evil & Nasty it should be jumped on. Don't you think? Are you supporting the Evil & Nasty types that are being let into our peaceful Country. Seems so.

mikk: No matter how ludicrous or ridiculous. No matter that it comes from a proven liar in the most dishonest government in Australias history. Bloody sickening.

Yes, this Government has lied. So did the last one & the one before that. That's what Governments do. That's why they have the 30 year stop on the release of Documents.

mikk: Bridging visa $45,000 of which almost all goes to government agencies spying on them to find an excuse to deport them compared to immigration detention cost $1235000000 That's $1.234 billion. BILLION

Yes, disgusting. imagine what Australia could do for; Health, Education, Infrastructure, Mentally Ill & Disabled & Pensioners who have paid their way all their life & deserve to live decently in their old age.

You idiots! Evil, bigoted idiots!

Yes, we are to put up with allowing the import of people who will eventually cause the amount of trouble & strife as is happening in Europe & Britain now. & now, the call for arms from the jihadist to ALL Muslims to support & join the newly formed Caliphate in the Middle East. 500 from the USA, 500 from the UK, 800 from Europe, 300 from Australia, goodness knows how many from Indonesia & other Islamic Countries. These people will eventually want to come home to continue the fight for their Religion. Their aim is to eliminate the West. That's, you & me.

Well maybe not mikk & poirot, etc.