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The Forum > General Discussion > Forget capital punishment. Restrict prison diet instead.

Forget capital punishment. Restrict prison diet instead.

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Hi Yuyutsu,

So calorie restriction on the inside is a serious human rights violation, whilst on the outside it is called Jenny Craig. You do realise that a healthy weight improves your health and quality of life, dont you? How is enforcing this a human rights violation? Perhaps because you might deny someone the cherished right of dying young from heart disease or bowel cancer? But I think you take my idea out of context. I am not advocating starving people of healthy weight. I am advocating the de-bulking of violent offenders with the aim of reducing their capacity for violence and minimising the danger to those they share the world with.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 8 June 2014 10:30:34 PM
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Yea, 3 slices of bread, & a liter of water a day is too much for this scum.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 8 June 2014 10:49:34 PM
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Dear Fester,

<<So calorie restriction on the inside is a serious human rights violation>>

I do not believe in human rights - I believe in freedom.

I understand that sometimes freedom must be restricted in self-defence, but it must not be restricted beyond what's required for self-defence.

For example, forbidding a prisoner to have their Mom's birthday cake cannot be justified on the grounds of self-defence. Instead, it seems to be an act of retribution, which I consider unacceptable.

Freedom includes the freedom to do stupid things, so long as others are not hurt: this would include the freedom to die young from heart disease or bowel cancer. Without the freedom to do evil we have no freedom to do good and without the freedom to act stupidly we have no freedom to act wisely.

<<I am advocating the de-bulking of violent offenders with the aim of reducing their capacity for violence and minimising the danger to those they share the world with.>>

The question is whether this specific measure is indeed necessary in self-defence (and if so, why it hasn't been used before).

A person locked behind bars can hardly harm others, can they?
The current practice is to place violent prisoners in solitary confinement, in order to protect the other prisoners.

I have no objection to the idea of making a contract with a prisoner in solitary confinement with a violent history to the effect of "if you follow this diet and lose weight then you can stay with the other prisoners", so long as it is consensual: otherwise they can remain in solitary confinement, harming nobody. I also have no objection if this diet is offered as part of a consensual parole-program.

Another option (and a cost-saving measure) is to offer violent prisoners who would otherwise be in solitary confinement, to be moved to a special "violent ward" among other prisoners like themselves. So long as they agree, if they are injured by each other in that ward, then they've got only themselves to blame, while at the same time other, non-violent prisoners, are safe.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 9 June 2014 12:54:23 AM
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Get rid of prison gyms for a start, also computers & restrict TV. We just got one of our top break-in merchants back & his skills are now more honed than before he went to jail. Thank you Labor supporting magistrates !
Posted by individual, Monday, 9 June 2014 9:19:48 AM
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In my perfect world we would bring back capital punishment for violent predatory rapists and pedophiles as well as some of the more evil murderous offenders. There are some very bad people who cannot be rehabilitated and they don't deserve to live. They loose their right to life once they commit a horrendous crime.

And in my perfect world those in prison would have the security of their own individual cell that also includes a little device on the wall similar to a fire alarm that requires breaking the glass, but instead of setting off the bells, a straw with cyanide would be exposed for those wishing an early exit.

No violent or cleaver robbery videos to watch, nothing even remotely pornographic or sexually stimulating and no daytime TV... just feel good innocent movies in my prison. If the thought of such harsh punishment deters even one bad guy then we have an improvement. Dead bad guys don't re-offend.
Posted by sbr108, Monday, 9 June 2014 10:40:16 AM
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Why not just maim them. Break their legs or cut off an arm. Blind them or drug them. Give them lobotomies and electric shock therapy.
That will stop them better than starving them would.
But what does that make us?
Evil scum no better than the nazis I say!
Posted by mikk, Monday, 9 June 2014 12:15:15 PM
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