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Palestine: imminent breakthrough or lost opportunity?

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This is the discussion thread for http://onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=16358 while our main forum is out of commission. Thanks for your patience.
Posted by GrahamY, Friday, 30 May 2014 6:38:47 AM
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oh david im too tired.of all this junk/
fear mongering divide and fighT....YOU.

<<<Thirdly - Ettinger's article contains the following powerful message for Gaza's readers to digest - indeed for all who seek to end this conflict that has raged unresolved for the last 130 years.>>>

,<<..The Palestinian issue has benefited from the Arab/Muslim talk, but - due to the Palestinian record of intra-Arab subversion - has never been supported by the Arab/Muslim walk.>>

..yes..its the prisoners/not the jailer..

<<..Arab/Muslim policy makers have never considered the Palestinian issue a strategic interest, but rather a tactical instrument to advance intra-Arab or Muslim interests and to annihilate the Jewish state..>>..bull-dust

..<<Irrespective of this, Palestine has been a geographic, not a national, concept, as evidenced by the lack of distinct, cohesive national character of its Arab inhabitants.>>

its called divide and conquer[a live-time..ongoing endless suffering..that builds/power\over/those..in complet bondage/lack-of empowerment/dispossessed/divided/starved maDE SICK..living in a GULAG.

<<..This lack of cohesion>>..PERCIEVED/LACK OF COHEzION].

<<..has been intensified by the violent>>
its bot/arab/arab..mate..

but yes for divide/fragment..<<..internal fragmentation along various lines:..>>

a a matter/of\policy..of/the israelie\capoes

fragmentated[shatterd]..<<..cultura..(such as Bedouin vs. rural vs. urban sectors), geographic..(e.g. mountain vs. coastal Arabs,>>

and jes dont got/that black/white..divide?

<<>.southern vs. northern,
Hebron vs. Bethlehem,...Nablus vs. Ramallah,..Nablus vs. Hebron),>>

yes/you dont satan/proud

<<..ethnic, ideological, political
(pro- or anti-Jordan),..historical..and tribal identity.>>

NAMECALLING/NAme-changing..poisening

<<>.Such turbulent fragmentation..was fueled by>>
israelie colonisation/rapist/thugs..wolves..in secular sheep skins

<<>.the multitude of Arab or Muslim migration waves..from Bosnia, Algeria, Libya, Egypt,..Jordan,..the Arabian Peninsula, Syria and Lebanon.>>>

yet..all tarred with/the same brush..towelheads/terror-lista
Posted by one under god, Friday, 30 May 2014 8:47:34 AM
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MATE There was a time, when down on my luck, angry and frustrated because no on e seemed to listen, to understand and to fathom the dark clouds gathering all around us, I felt betrayed by society and took it very personally and very hard. I wanted to run away, to be alone, to feel sorry for myself, and to blame the res t of the world for the misdeeds of a criminal few.



Then, I grew up. I thought of the families of the Israelis and Palestinians killed in an ever spiraling violence of hatred whose lives have forever been destroyed by the unspeakable evil hatred represents. This hatred is not spontaneous. It has been masterfully impose d and managed from behind the scenes by the Bilderberger/CFR/TC/Round Table/RIIA controllers, who are dragging the unwilling world to its utter decimation.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_bilderberg_23.htm

in the more than fifty years of their meetings, the press has never been allowed to attend, no statements have ever been released on the attendees’ conclusions, nor has any agenda for a Bilderberg meeting been made public.
http://rss.infowars.com/20140529_Thu_Alex.mp3
Leaders of the Bilderberg Group argue that this discretion is necessary to allow participants in the debates to speak freely without being on the record, or reported publicly. Otherwise, Bilderbergers claim, they would be forced to speak in the language of a press release.

No doubt, this discretion allows the Bilderberg Group to deliberate more freely.

But that does not respond to the fundamental question:

*What do the world’s most powerful people talk about in these meetings?*

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6304&page=18
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6404&page=0

Any modern democratic system protects the right to privacy, but doesn’t the public have a right to know what their political leaders are talking about when they meet the wealthiest business leaders of their respective countries?*

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16191&page=8
Posted by one under god, Friday, 30 May 2014 10:12:11 AM
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What guarantees do citizens have that the Bilderberg Group isn’t merely a center for influence trafficking and lobbying if they aren’t allowed to know what their representatives talk about at the Group’s secret gatherings?*

Why are the Davos World Economic Forums and G8 meetings discussed in every newspaper, given front-page coverage, with thousands of journalists in attendance, while no one covers Bilderberg Group meetings?

This blackout exists despite the fact that (or because?) they are annually attended by Presidents of the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and Federal Reserve.Also by chairmen of 100 of the most powerful corporations in the world such as,*Daimler Chrysler, Coca Cola, British Petroleum (BP), Chase Manhattan Bank, American Express, Goldman Sachs, and Microsoft

*by Vice Presidents of the United States*Directors of the CIA and the FBI*Secretaries General of NATO*American Senators and members of Congress*European Prime Ministers*leaders of opposition parties*top editors and CEOs of the leading newspapers in the world

It is certainly curious that no mainstream media outlet considers a gathering of such figures, whose wealth far exceeds the combined wealth of all United States citizens, to be newsworthy, when a trip by any one of them on their own makes headline news on TV.

This is the conundrum that I have pondered. Fifteen years ago it set me on an investigative journey that has become my life’s work.Slowly, one by one, I have penetrated the layers of secrecy surrounding the Bilderberg Group, but I could not have done this without the help of “conscientious objectors” from inside, as well as outside, the Group’s membership.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_bilderberg_23.htm

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=OOSTERBEEK+BILDERBERG+ATTENDANCE&

http://whatreallyhappened.com/

http://173.236.29.251/WRHARTICLES/podcast.php
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/enron-2-0-wall-street-wants-manipulate-state-energy-markets-just-like-manipulates-every-market.html
Posted by one under god, Friday, 30 May 2014 10:14:17 AM
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THE FORGOTTEN/LESSONS..OF THE TORAH
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2014/06/01/the-forgotten-lessons-of-the-torah/

This Tuesday/evening..will usher in ..the Festival of Shavuot, the last-in..the yearly cycle..of Holy Days on the Hebrew calendar.

Shavuot traditionally commemorates
the giving of the Torah..to the..ABRAHAMIC-nation at Mt. Sinai.

Included in this..were The Ten Commandment,
the basic Code/of Law..to live by..YE SHALT/NOT..ADULTERATE-GODS-WURD.

INDEED/FREE..THE SLAVES..DISEMPOWERMENT/
PUNISHMENT=OFFICIAL LANGUAGE
[in gods holy lands/]
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2014/06/01/power-and-punishment-replaces-hebrew-as-israels-official-language/

At the/same time,./the entire approach..to Israel..must be changed. As long..as it..does/not pay..the..full-price..of the occupation and its citizens-abusers.....go unpunished,..they will have no reason to end it,..or even to deal with it...

The occupation is deep inside the Israeli closet...There is no one to out it,..the overwhelming majority want/it..to remain inside...For this reason,..only punitive measures/will remind us/of its existence. Yes,..I mean boycotts..and sanctions,..which are greatly preferable to bloodshed.

This is the truth,..even if it’s bitter...America..and Europe have kowtowed.\to Israel enough...Unfortunately,..to\no effect....From now on,.the world/must speak..a different language..and perhaps it will be understood.

After all,..Israel has proved,..more than once,
that/the language..of power=..order..and punishment..is/its..main language.


http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/06/02/the-composition-of-human-life/

The magician/He had/long-left behind..its symbols,..its plots,..its machinations,..[its madness,..its masters..and slaves....EDITED

The death eaters..are in charge of..the city,”..he said...“They need more death,..and they’ll say it exists..and it’s growing,..even if it isn’t...all..They have/to have..is/death on..our/minds.

edited/“We’ve always known this,”..the man said,..“but we’ve been afraid to admit it....And we’ve been frustrated because we believed we could never find the creature..who sat on top of the heap.”
http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/06/02/the-composition-of-human-life/

He had left this place a long time ago. He had left behind its symbols, its plots, its machinations, its madness, its masters and slaves.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/bilderberg-2014-discover-the-facesdiscover-the-agenda/

He had left the tinny phony continuum....or better spots.He had left the limited range of emotions as well,...the programmed responses, the fevered needs of the gr..up, the whining and complaining,

the morbid pretensions...He had seen
the labyrinth..and rejected..it as a fool’s game.

EDITED..“These people, the rulers,” the man said, “are working for other people who also want to eat death,..and those people work for others who have the same hunger.

It keeps going..up and up...but we’ve been/afraid to admit it...And we’ve been frustrated..because we believed...we could never find/the creature..who sat/shay..on..the scum/..on..top of the heap.”
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 4:50:04 PM
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some links re israel/plus two flight updates
some bilderberg..basics

left over from during the recent shutdown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr2-vLuqMaQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_VVSowdNB0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95SkRrCSIhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XBEKS3bWzc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95SkRrCSIhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwWqiY0Uy3s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z4u3OUllA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLdp6hiIghc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axre0PxX3Gw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKagXFsXtUo#t=15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceOrJaMBbQM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B1PX1XeZ_s
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 7:40:30 PM
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