<< It is a pity both major parties have agreed not to debate immigration issues, it is so important for our future. >>

Banjo, it is absolutely dismal. You’ve got to wonder why this is so, given the enormous importance of it. And one has to assume that it is primarily due to the request (or order) from big business to stay quiet on the issue.

One also has to wonder why on earth the media, and especially politically analysts, also remain quiet and don’t push the pollies to comment on it.

Talking about onshore asylum seekers in intimate detail is fine, but talking about immigration in general is just taboo. Extraordinary!

Abbott and Hockey, and the other mob, just so totally take it for granted that we should be pursuing high growth, of which very high population growth is a fundamental component that is beyond question.

How extraordinarily wrong they are…. and will be shown to be when we eventually get our heads around the sustainability imperative.

Ludwig,
If I recall accurately, it was Bob Hawke that brokered the deal with the LNP and the deal was that they would not discuss or debate immigration issues but leave it up to the party in government to decide policy and numbers.

At the time, they claimed immigration was too complex for people to understand. However the actual reason was that each party could easily be criticised for having too high a migrant intake. Business was, and is, making big donations to each party to retain high immigration rates. Little consideration is given to what is best for Australia.

So, with a compliant media, the public is effectively gagged on the issues.

I love how Ludwig, a lefty, aligns himself with the handful of racist, far right wing ideologues here when it comes to immigration. Ludwig's morals and political alignments go out the window when it comes to his pet subject ... fear and hatred of migrants.

Nhoj, I note that there is a woman over in Sudan, she is eight months pregnant, has another child and a husband, in other words 'a family' yet she has been sentenced to death for refusing the quit her chosen religion, chritianity and follow the Islamic religion.

And the fact that you are quit happy to allow that kind of trash religion in to our peace loving nation just goes to show what type of person you really are.

Our forefathers should be ashamed to have allowed such hatred into this country. This type of religion does not belong here and should be banned once and for all.

As for immigration, I agree that it should be suspended until we at least get our books back in order and, we must stop all 457's, regardless of color or creed as we are going to need every job we have to get our layabouts off the street, to either fill the jobs, or at least train for them.

As for you, you are a disgrace to this forum and quite frankly, Graham and his crew must be asleep at the wheel to allow your continued taunts to remain on this site.

If you are looking for racisim, may I suggest you look in the mirror.

@Nhoj, Saturday, 17 May 2014 11:03:00 AM

Perhaps you are so preoccupied with your own sense of entitlement that you are not noticing what is going on around you.

Why don't you have a chat with some Asian migrants for instance to find out what they think of (say) the millions of taxpayers' $$ blown annually on aboriginal housing that is hugely expensive to build and is destroyed and abandoned as quickly as it is completed?

Just to take the same group again as an example, do you honestly believe that Asian migrants support their taxes being expended on government and NGO bureaucracies that claim some role in ethnic affairs and fostering multiculturalism?

Most would say rightly that those Asian migrants would very much prefer to keep their tax dollars and choose themselves what services they want, it any.

Do imagine for a moment that the same Asian migrants would support the many thousands of tattooed, drunken slobs, male and female, who are forever whinging about their lack of opportunity but put 'menial' jobs below them?

You don't honestly believe that the Asian migrants, their children and their children's children are going to be putting in all of the hard yards in education , in work and in their own entrepreneurship just to hand the money over in taxes to support you and your sense of entitlement, do you?

You would be very surprised how many migrants prize independence and working for their own and their family's keep. Just wondering how many Asian migrants you would come across as members of the 'Left'. Inverted commas around 'Left' because very few who claim to be Left have any idea of what that entails and are just clutching at anything to protect their slack dependence on the government and taxpayer.

The following link may be of interest
to compare the various comments of
this forum's contributors - a couple
of years ago:

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4400