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Love of country

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Cossomby,
So what's the difference between people who would claim "no race" in order to, as you say "put others down" and people who would claim to be of one race in order to do so?
People seeking to "put others down" will always claim that race doesn't matter or doesn't exist because they need some element of the diverse groups to co-operate with them in order to "put the others down".
Here's another video, which you won't watch but should, at least skip to about half way because that's when he really gets into the meat of his argument:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15iuq9OTTsE
See that's the thing, I can sit here posting examples of identical views to my own expressed by people of other ethnic groups and you'll still claim that it's a "Race problem" rather than a conflict between two different worldviews.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 10 May 2014 5:43:16 PM
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Not sure how to answer that slight non-sequitor.

I did watch some of the video. But not clear what that had to do with my last comments about the political use of 'White' as a hangover from past simplistic racial categories designed to show that 'Whites' were superior to other races.

MGTOW seems to indicate that (some) male views about women seem to be universal, regardless of race, colour or creed.

(No more tonight).
Posted by Cossomby, Saturday, 10 May 2014 6:00:06 PM
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Dear Cossomby,

Generally I think your posts are great. However, you stated the Greeks 'started the whole democratic thing.'

From John Keane’s “The Life and Death of Democracy”: pp. 106-7 “…it reveals clues to the existence of a functioning form of self-government a full five hundred years before the Athenian experiment with democracy. At the time of Wen-Amon’s expedition, Byblos – later called Gebal and today known as Jbail in the republic of Lebanon – was a small but thriving maritime city-state. Its reputation ran high in the ancient world of the Mediterranean not only for its wood and paper – some treasured words like book, bible and bibliography are named after it – but also for its system of government by ‘assembly’. It even gets a mention in the Bible, where the region is described as a zone of free trade and commerce. ‘Thy borders are in the midst of the seas’ runs a well-known passage, which mentions as well not only the prized wheat, honey, oil and balm from the Land of Israel and fine-quality ship masts hewed from the ancient cedars of Lebanon, but also an assembly comprising ‘the elders of Gebal and her wise men’ (Ezekiel 27:91)
Posted by david f, Saturday, 10 May 2014 6:36:44 PM
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The video explains how beginning with the Nixon administration in the U.S Black women were turned against Black men to cripple and put down the whole ethnic group,the speaker isn't as articulate as he is perceptive and thoughtful so he takes a while to get to the point.
In the last half of the video he builds on that foundation and goes into detail on the way White America has also been destroyed using the same methods and concludes that "Racism" was only a stepping stone. He suggests that those seeking to subjugate others never really give a damn about race and that minority communities are just the guinea pigs for experiments in social change, whatever techniques are perfected on them are sure to be rolled out onto the White majority.
One example he gives is the way crack Cocaine seemed to arrive in Black America just at the "right" time and how Methamphetamine has arrived just at the "right" time in White America, the "right" time obviously being when the community is already on it's knees.
Whatever they do to them, they do to us, it's a point that low caste White people all over the world need to take to heart.
NT intervention? Shepparton intervention, then Broadmeadows intervention, Woy Woy intervention, Frankston intervention, Elizabeth intervention...
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 10 May 2014 6:46:20 PM
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For some people, "Australianism" is personified by the picture of the rugged individual, idealised in the ANZAC, and the Olypian, an individual not far removed from Banjo Patterson or his 'Man From Snowy River', or a real life Kingsford Smith! These people are indeed Australians, and to some degree represent a part of the Australian character, be it a rather romanticised, stylised image of what it is to be an Australian, but neverless they conjure a certain romantic image which is hard to deny. Are these romanticised, stylised images of Australia a true reflection of what Australianism is, I very much doubt that was ever the case, and it certainly is not the case today. If the Australian is the ANZAC, he is also the bloke driving the cab, or the kid with skate board or the fella who cuts your hair, or sell you petrol late at night. He is also the bloke driving cattle in the territory or fishing in Bass Straight, the Australian is the grandmother born here 70 years ago, or a man who arrived from Iraq just last year. The Australian is young and old , man and woman, white and black. Australian are one, Australians are many. No matter what we want, or what we believe, Australia is a 'melting pot' of people and cultures, and has been for over 200 years, ever developing, ever changing. So if you enjoy a chop suey, don't feel bad, it is as Australian as meat pies and tomato sauce!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 10 May 2014 6:52:13 PM
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Sorry I neglected to point out that the Black middle class was basically destroyed by the 1980's and Black business ownership, home ownership and entrepreneurship has rapidly collapsed since 2008.
That's the future.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 10 May 2014 6:54:39 PM
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