Shadow Minister,

What new infrastructure are you talking about?
What productive money making infrastructure is proposed?
Can you make a list and post it here?

Remember, new, productive and money making.

JF,

I am not the minister for Infrastructure and am not going to play your stupid game.

Anyone with an IQ greater than a squirrel can think of a few examples, such as toll roads, rail roads, ports, airports, etc.

Next time post something that passes the squirrel test.

Shadow Minister,
Best the shadow ministry be dumped like the science ministry.
Usless stupid and squirrel comments do not describe productive infrastructure.

Toll roads just take money off the people.
Toll roads produce no exports.
Road building is not sustainably productive. Once built that's it.

Very fast trains in this country are a joke, they will not be viable. How many people want to go by fast train when there are buses and aircraft, how many each day for what purpose, what reason? How many at what ticket price? VFT in this country with it's small population centers is crazy.
And even now it's cheaper to go Sydney to Brisbane or Melbourne by air than by train.

Existing ports are being sold to overseas investors for quick cash to balance the books, causing loss of long term income.

The proposed Badgery Creek airport will produce no new tourism income because existing airports already meet demand and will into years to come. Big boys playing with trains and planes is not viable or productive.

What is etc? What exactly? Make a list without the squirrel IQ stupid inference. Think SM, our assests are beong sold. What then? What now?

It is difficult to find new productive infrastructure opportunities, is it not, so why sell the existing ones?
It is that sell off and failure to provide subsidies that is now resulting in more and more taxes and reduction of health services.

Yes, close the Shadow Ministry. Or think with an open and fair mind.

What some people on this page don't realise is that if we don't have some high profile people 'come out' and represent the day to day person out there - these people will lose out.

Julia Gillard - would definitely make a difference - in so many ways 'beyond belief' - and that is an understatement and there could easily be some on the Liberal side of politics who could contribute.

If high profile people don't stand up now - and the general public - savage cuts are on the way - and people will pay the price for it.

JF,

It is difficult to argue with someone whose opinions are not constrained by his complete ignorance.

People pay tolls on roads because the time saved is worth far more than toll paid. This goes for people getting to work, trucks etc. The expanded roads make money, but save the users far more. It also allows people and businesses to be situated further from the center, etc. Badgerys Creek is not needed now but will be greatly needed in 20 years when it reaches completion.

The consequences of Labor's policy of holding on to assets and not building new ones is disastrous, but considering that every project they have attempted has been a disaster, their fear of failure is justified.

Shadow Minister,
Yes I must admit that roads drain a lot of money from the pockets and purses of the people, through imported road building machinery and and even oil to make the cement and steel, plus fuel to drive on roads using imported cars. As far as putting money into pockets and purses, it's a potential script for a version of 'one flew over the cuckoos nest'.

Help overcome ignorance Shadow Minister. Look into the money the New Zealand dairy industry is bringing back into that country. Milk is creating wealth for the whole NZ nation, while our dairy industry is going downhill in preparation for takeover by foreign investors.

Why not contact your mate Abbott and suggest his government develop Australian milk co-op processing infrastructure specifically for exporting milk worldwide?

I agree toll roads are needed and are good but they produce nothing for export whatsoever. They do not bring money into the country. Compare toll road new money, new income for the nation, compared to returns from say, milk export infrastructure.

NathanJ,
I don't know what Julia could do. She had her day and messed it up. Surely she is back practicing law or retired on parliamentary income.
Perhaps she would make a good ambassador for the people, for the nation. She sure has a lot of talent