Dear pacifists,
The computer on which you access this site is a derivative of a machine devised to break German military cyphers in WW2, the internet itself is based on a secure military communications system.
Your GPS street directory, the kevlar in your motorbike jacket, the carbon fibre in your racing bike,the integrated circuits in your fridge, the long life food you take hiking, the encrypted radios and datalinks used by Police and Emergency workers...etc..etc..all trickle down technology from the military.
On topic:I mentioned the Dassault Rafale fighter, the advanced flight control and cockpit management system developed for that warplane is now used in Airbus passenger jets to reduce pilot workload and fatigue to make air travel safer and more efficient.
Westinghouse make radar equipment, GE make jet engines, Sony, Intel, Mitsubishi, GM, Ford, Boeing, Lockheed Martin and most other engineering companies make life saving and life enhancing machinery as well as weapons systems.
Another example, Spartan motors build fire engines, ambulances and other specialised emergency vehicles in addition to their line of armoured military trucks, the technological advances made in manufacturing a chassis which can survive a landmine blast or a rocket strike trickle down to better, stronger and more reliable emergency vehicles for civilian use.

Jay, but but but but but - what's your point?

The fact that technology designed for the military to enable one to harm other people can also result in other technology that helps people is hardly a recent discovery, that was previously unknown to mankind.

Try again.

You have a silly opinion on just everything don't you Nhoj. What would you know ever about these aeroplains ? From my former homeland there were many USSR fighter plaines always on the grounded never flying because you ask ? No ability to fly that's why ? From the fence of the aerofield you could see birds living in engine ducts and other openings of the aeroplaines never cleaned out or anything. Yet always garded by dogs and men with guns. So you don't know anything about these plains. Other things to you quote 10000 years ago, they had no plaines in those days did they.

‘morning Philip S,

Paragraph 8 & 9 of what ?

The original, the copy, the competitors comments? What are you saying besides a diversion?

Paragraphs 8 and 9 of the “Money for nothing” article prove me correct and you incorrect. If you think differently you can publish and be damned!

Why don’t you publish what you think represents your case from the links you used?

You screwed up because you don’t read, comprehend or check for yourself? You just adopt without question the opinion of others.

You can always prove me wrong by supporting your case. On the other hand you can duck and weave as an excuse for your incompetence? You rely on the fact that most OLO’ers will not bother to check your link. If they do check they can likewise try to support your case. If not they too are tarred with the same brush.

Like so many on OLO, the link is emotively absorbed, but bears no connection with reality of the claims made. When caught out you refuse to make your case.

Prove me wrong.

spindoc - Just because information comes from a company that supplies a rival product does not mean there information is incorrect.

To quote you "You screwed up because you don’t read, comprehend or check for yourself? You just adopt without question the opinion of others" Your opinion an incorrect one, I have read enough information from generals and Pentagon official and others to form an opinion this plane is going to be a white elephant.

Just because you have different information does not make you right, time will tell which of us is correct.

I will save a copy of this thread to remind you in the future.

Philip S,

Here's the video & transcript of the Four Corners program last year which examined the F-35.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2013/02/18/3690317.htm

"PIERRE SPREY, FORMER PENTAGON ANALYST: So we have an airplane that can't turn to escape fighters, can't turn to escape missiles, sluggish in acceleration because it's so big and fat and draggy and doesn't have enough motor for the weight.

My prediction is the airplane will become such an embarrassment that it will be cancelled before 500 airplanes are built.

ANDREW FOWLER: And with Australia one of the biggest potential customers for the Joint Strike Fighter, it's drawing plenty of flak here as well.

PETER GOON, CO-FOUNDER, AIR POWER AUSTRALIA: They've produced an aircraft that is not going to do the job.

Clearly it's not competitive even with aircraft that are in our region today, let alone those that are coming down the pipe,"

"ANDREW FOWLER: Winslow Wheeler is a veteran military analyst who's charted the soaring cost of the JSF.

WINSLOW WHEELER, DIRECTOR, STRAUS MILITARY REFORM PROJECT: Anybody paying attention to this airplane knew it was going to be a disaster from the very beginning. From the early 1990s we started seeing public warnings, in the mid 1990s.

This airplane has high cost and low performance in its DNA. It was designed into the airplane. It's going to die a slow agonising death in this country."

etc....