Suse wrote, "Like most normal drivers, if I am behind a cyclist, I wait until the other side of the road is clear before I go around them".

Oh Suse, don't say that. You'll just confuse Ludwig with logic. But hopefully it won't affect his erectile function. I'm sure Ludwig's boyfriend would be happy about that. Let's be nice to Ludwig from now on; he's a sensitive soul in need of pampering.

Haaaa haahahaaa.

At least you’re having fun Nhojjie!

Hmmmm.... well I hope you are.

Or perhaps you are just being driven by your pathological negativity. Perhaps you are seething with anger and hatred as you write your absurd posts ??

Whatever the case, they are certainly entertaining. So I thankyou for that. Keep it up! ( :>)

Suse, thanks for that. At last a there is bit of substance in your post….. that actually contributes to this discussion.

<< Like most normal drivers, if I am behind a cyclist, I wait until the other side of the road is clear before I go around them. >>

If you observe this in the real-world, you will see that scant few drivers will hang up behind a cyclist unless they absolutely have to. ‘Normal’ drivers squeeze on through. This is the way it has always been, and I would say that it has resulted in very few mishaps.

As I said earlier; it is NOT the gap between cyclists and cars that is the problem, it is that drivers don’t see cyclists. I would think that 99.9% of car-bicycle accidents result from the driver simply not seeing the cyclist.

The gap that a driver gives to a cyclist once they have seen them is simply NOT the issue! Increasing the gap or making a wide gap mandatory as per this new law won’t help at all, because it simply doesn’t address the main issue.

That is my heartfelt opinion, having been a driver for >35 years, and a cyclist for 40 years up to 5 years ago.

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<< Nothing you can say would convince me we all shouldn't already be giving cyclists at least a metre's clearance already, whether there are laws or not. >>

That’s good Suse. Definitely give a cyclist a metre clearance when you safely can. But if you can’t do it without it increasing the risk of mishap, then don’t!!

The trouble with the new law is that 1m is now binding in Queensland in 60kmh zones or less, regardless of any other considerations…… and there often are other things to consider, which could render this sort of gap more dangerous than a half-metre gap.

And the situation is exacerbated in 70kmh zones or higher with the requirement for a 1.5m gap.

I hope you can see what I saying.

Suse I appreciate your views. But really, you shouldn’t have aligned yourself with that silly drongo Nhoj. I think you jumped in far too soon before you knew what sort of a character he/she/it is. Perhaps after his last post you will now see the merit in distancing yourself from him.

No, sorry Ludwig, I still like Nhoj's style, but thanks for toning it down for a decent discussion on this issue.

I don't see why you are surprised that the Queensland Govt brought in this rule ( I don't live in Queensland), as it is well known that the drivers in that state are the worst in Australia ......they had to do something : )

Suse, you like Nhoj’s style !?!?

WOW!! This character is the worst I have ever come across on OLO.

His 100% negativity is just palpable! If he really does care about road rules and road safety then he should be strongly onside with me. To just immediately come out in a powerfully negative and hateful manner is just as bizarre as!

Then there are his copious false assertions…. which amount to defamation. He deliberately makes out my arguments or my position to be something quite different to what he knows they are, just to make it seem as bad as he possibly can. Any fool can do that. He demonstrates kindergarten-level debating skills.

And then there are the forum rules that he is constantly breaking. Rules 1 and 2 in particular: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/rules.asp

As old CJ Morgan would say; he needs to get help!

<< …but thanks for toning it down for a decent discussion on this issue. >>

So can we now have a decent discussion? What in my last double post do you agree with or not agree with?

<< I don't live in Queensland >>

Suse you don’t have to live in Qld to appreciate what I’m saying, or to observe my concerns when you are out there on the road.

As a nurse I would have thought you’d be very interested in road safety, and in my concerns about the potential hazards that this new Qld cyclist safety margin law creates. Indeed, if you are not interested in this, why are you on this thread? It seems most odd to me that you’ve come out strongly in opposition to my concerns. I don’t understand that at all.