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Why does Tony Abbott slump in polls - despite his best week yet?

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Does government have any tertiary qualification as a prerequisite for entry to librarian positions? I don't believe that is so.

The 'difference' between library technicians and librarians is traditional - bureaucratic status. Both are clerks. Up until very recent times when librarians reluctantly conceded that information is the game and technology is how it is delivered, the librarian separated herself from 'others' such as library assistants because she (the librarian) did 'administrative' things.

TAFEs offer the certified training for all levels.

To be honest, there is bugger all judgement required, it is all precedent. -Since cataloguing and practically everything else apes what the Library of Congress does.

There was that standing joke when most State and federal departments sloughed off their libraries, here,

Q: How many librarians does it take to change a light bulb*?
A: One. -She waits and watches for what the Library of Congress does and then does the same herself.

*substitute cataloguing and other duties.

Where some libraries remain in government agencies, the strong focus and preference is for subject matter knowledge. An example could be the Attorney Generals Dept and legal familiarity.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 20 April 2014 12:14:07 PM
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otb,

Give it up, mate.

I know it's irresistible - and that you think you've hit on a novel new way to have a go at Foxy, but really there must be a limit to your pettifogging pursuit of jollies in that way.

Lol!
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 20 April 2014 12:24:41 PM
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That so?

Here you go, TAFE librarian training, all certified in full compliance with the Australian Standards.

http://tafenow.com.au/information-and-cultural?gclid=CMrstZ-E7r0CFYHhpAodwRoAxQ

Maybe you would like some job advertisements as well to show that tertiary quals are NOT prerequisites?

What is interesting is relativity. A librarian gets $70-80k PA.

However trained police get much less. Here you go,

Police Officer salary bands*

Constable
$52,823 – $64,135
Senior Constable
$65,962 – $79,118
http://www.policerecruit.qld.gov.au/whatWeOffer/employmententitlements.htm

Good to have some facts and numbers too.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 20 April 2014 12:46:41 PM
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Nasty old overpaid librarians.

There should be a law against it!

: )
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 20 April 2014 12:59:56 PM
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hey foxie.i need a libarian..to get some info
in fact we want a way where everything is catalogued/cross referanced

ie we want to loist fully the assets special interests of everyone
in a real hardcopy FILE..UNTAMPERABLE..[RECALL THE KING WHO NOTED EVERYTHING DOWN IN BRITON/LIKE THAT BUT A REAL BOOK OF LIFE

WE NEED RECORD EVERYONES ASSETS SO GOVT CAN ASSURE/insure and preserve them properly/too much of value isnt being properly respected/we want it in black and white

but bacK to the bushman][GODS MUST BE CRAZY]
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6293&page=11

BUT ONCE WE GOT EVERYONES ASSETS ON RECORD
THE THIEVES DONT GOT NO WHERE TO GO
ONCE THE LIBRARIAN ENTERS IT ONTO YOUR RECORD/GOVT ASSURES AND INSURES IT works for the whole of our life/how do i begin organizing my appeal..[this trial..'could' go 50,000 years..till the last injury has been recorded...into the record.

online transcripts?
how does pone get online info into a court case?
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 20 April 2014 1:55:52 PM
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Dear Poirot,

ALIA (Australian Library and Information
Association) currently accredites courses at both the
undergraduate and graduate level for librarians.
These courses meet the
Library and Information Sector: Core Knowledge, Skills and
Attributes which have been developed by educators, and
practitioners, and are the basis for
accreditation of Library and Information courses for
librarians. Graduates will
be able to become ALIA Associate Members and be eligible to
commence their certified professional membership (ALIA
Certified Professional). Librarian courses are not
available at TAFE. I know. I firstly received my Diploma
as a Library Technician (having completed my Bachelor's
from Uni earlier) and then went on to University
for my post-graduate qualification in Librarianship.
My teachers at TAFE felt that I should do this.
And at their encouragement I did. Also, Teacher Librarians
must hold formal teaching qualifications to be eligible to
enrol in any ALIA accredited teacher librarian (post-grad)
qualifications. Courses for Librarians are not available at
TAFE. And a Librarian cannot become an Associate Member
of ALIA - without proper accredited qualifications.
Been there done that.

Library Technicians - on the other hand - their
course are only available at TAFE. Library-Technicians
courses are not avialble at universities. And all
ALIA accredited courses are at
TAFE - at the diploma level and - are recognised.
Graduates are able to become ALIA Library Technician
members. They cannot however become Associate Members.

Library Assistants - are the only ones where no formal
qualification is usually necssary to work as a
library assistant - although ALIA does encourage these
people to explore some introductory courses and options
that are available from TAFE (Certificates).

All government departments and most employers have to
meet the criteria set by ALIA if they want to hire an
accredited library professional. And most of them do
just that - because there are set award wages to be
considered depending on experience and qualifications.

The link otb gave deals only with Library-Technicians
and Assistants, and not Librarians. But due to his
lack of knowledge - he doesn't know any better.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 20 April 2014 2:32:49 PM
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