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Why does Tony Abbott slump in polls - despite his best week yet?
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Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 20 April 2014 12:14:07 PM
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otb,
Give it up, mate. I know it's irresistible - and that you think you've hit on a novel new way to have a go at Foxy, but really there must be a limit to your pettifogging pursuit of jollies in that way. Lol! Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 20 April 2014 12:24:41 PM
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That so?
Here you go, TAFE librarian training, all certified in full compliance with the Australian Standards. http://tafenow.com.au/information-and-cultural?gclid=CMrstZ-E7r0CFYHhpAodwRoAxQ Maybe you would like some job advertisements as well to show that tertiary quals are NOT prerequisites? What is interesting is relativity. A librarian gets $70-80k PA. However trained police get much less. Here you go, Police Officer salary bands* Constable $52,823 – $64,135 Senior Constable $65,962 – $79,118 http://www.policerecruit.qld.gov.au/whatWeOffer/employmententitlements.htm Good to have some facts and numbers too. Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 20 April 2014 12:46:41 PM
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Nasty old overpaid librarians.
There should be a law against it! : ) Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 20 April 2014 12:59:56 PM
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hey foxie.i need a libarian..to get some info
in fact we want a way where everything is catalogued/cross referanced ie we want to loist fully the assets special interests of everyone in a real hardcopy FILE..UNTAMPERABLE..[RECALL THE KING WHO NOTED EVERYTHING DOWN IN BRITON/LIKE THAT BUT A REAL BOOK OF LIFE WE NEED RECORD EVERYONES ASSETS SO GOVT CAN ASSURE/insure and preserve them properly/too much of value isnt being properly respected/we want it in black and white but bacK to the bushman][GODS MUST BE CRAZY] http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6293&page=11 BUT ONCE WE GOT EVERYONES ASSETS ON RECORD THE THIEVES DONT GOT NO WHERE TO GO ONCE THE LIBRARIAN ENTERS IT ONTO YOUR RECORD/GOVT ASSURES AND INSURES IT works for the whole of our life/how do i begin organizing my appeal..[this trial..'could' go 50,000 years..till the last injury has been recorded...into the record. online transcripts? how does pone get online info into a court case? Posted by one under god, Sunday, 20 April 2014 1:55:52 PM
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Dear Poirot,
ALIA (Australian Library and Information Association) currently accredites courses at both the undergraduate and graduate level for librarians. These courses meet the Library and Information Sector: Core Knowledge, Skills and Attributes which have been developed by educators, and practitioners, and are the basis for accreditation of Library and Information courses for librarians. Graduates will be able to become ALIA Associate Members and be eligible to commence their certified professional membership (ALIA Certified Professional). Librarian courses are not available at TAFE. I know. I firstly received my Diploma as a Library Technician (having completed my Bachelor's from Uni earlier) and then went on to University for my post-graduate qualification in Librarianship. My teachers at TAFE felt that I should do this. And at their encouragement I did. Also, Teacher Librarians must hold formal teaching qualifications to be eligible to enrol in any ALIA accredited teacher librarian (post-grad) qualifications. Courses for Librarians are not available at TAFE. And a Librarian cannot become an Associate Member of ALIA - without proper accredited qualifications. Been there done that. Library Technicians - on the other hand - their course are only available at TAFE. Library-Technicians courses are not avialble at universities. And all ALIA accredited courses are at TAFE - at the diploma level and - are recognised. Graduates are able to become ALIA Library Technician members. They cannot however become Associate Members. Library Assistants - are the only ones where no formal qualification is usually necssary to work as a library assistant - although ALIA does encourage these people to explore some introductory courses and options that are available from TAFE (Certificates). All government departments and most employers have to meet the criteria set by ALIA if they want to hire an accredited library professional. And most of them do just that - because there are set award wages to be considered depending on experience and qualifications. The link otb gave deals only with Library-Technicians and Assistants, and not Librarians. But due to his lack of knowledge - he doesn't know any better. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 20 April 2014 2:32:49 PM
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The 'difference' between library technicians and librarians is traditional - bureaucratic status. Both are clerks. Up until very recent times when librarians reluctantly conceded that information is the game and technology is how it is delivered, the librarian separated herself from 'others' such as library assistants because she (the librarian) did 'administrative' things.
TAFEs offer the certified training for all levels.
To be honest, there is bugger all judgement required, it is all precedent. -Since cataloguing and practically everything else apes what the Library of Congress does.
There was that standing joke when most State and federal departments sloughed off their libraries, here,
Q: How many librarians does it take to change a light bulb*?
A: One. -She waits and watches for what the Library of Congress does and then does the same herself.
*substitute cataloguing and other duties.
Where some libraries remain in government agencies, the strong focus and preference is for subject matter knowledge. An example could be the Attorney Generals Dept and legal familiarity.