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Why does Tony Abbott slump in polls - despite his best week yet?

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Beach,

I'm not sorry for Barry and his discomfort and misory. This is the same Barry who has been for the past 3 years been creating discomfort and misery for thousands, by systematically destroying the public hospital system in NSW, the public education system, public transport, public housing, if its public, Barry was there to destroy it.
As for the Noble Knight Barry, falling on his sward it was more the case of the Devil Barry tripping up and impaling himself on his pitch fork, noting noble about it.
As for Greens should resign, for what, wroughting coal leases in NSW, fleecing the taxpayer with party donations, ripping of low paid union members, guzzling down $3,000 bottles of plonk at taxpayer expense, and then lying about it? I know Green parliamentarians are people with the highest degree of honesty and integrity, but should they resign for the sins of the Labor and Liberal parties, I think not! This Barry is the same old hypocrite Barry who in 2011 promised the people of New South Wales honesty and integrity in government, but has delivered the direct opposite!
Beach, give up on David and Lee, I have a new Green name for you to jump on Jenny Leong. I see The Greens doing very well in NSW in 2015. Will your man Jim Saleam be "contesting" a seat? LOL
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 18 April 2014 7:02:44 AM
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SORRY..FOXEY LOCKS
im with lucky/phrase<<..ICAC should not chase only the lowest hanging fruit here. The resignation should not mean ICAC has finished its work on O'Farrell.>>

yet it was the last siTTING DAY
ITS CASE CLOSED...[UNLESS?]

<<..OSW,>>FOXY..IS IT/TOO4U.<<..that you think Abbott should place political ties with a corrupt politician ahead of his responsibility to uphold the status of the role of Prime-Minister has you roped to the same mast as him, sadly. I've always read you as more of a straight-shooter.>>

ME TOO
we have been too trusting before
what worse a scoundrel like jonny/or sir joe or like the busche [mouth from the south]

or dead pan hangman.privatising everything in sight..got caught ..by his gratitude for a cheap tipple of plonk/that turned to vinigar ..in his presence

this faulse christ like dude ...seems a really evil little pretender?
Posted by one under god, Friday, 18 April 2014 8:02:04 AM
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OUG,

"yet it was the last siTTING DAY
ITS CASE CLOSED...[UNLESS?]"

From my understanding, NSW ICAC is pretty much an ongoing investigator - more like a perpetual Royal Commission....anyone...Yes?
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 18 April 2014 8:24:33 AM
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Here's Kate McClymont explaining exactly how it unfolded.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/icac-not-to-blame-for-barry-ofarrells-downfall-20140417-36tw7.html

"Barry O'Farrell's resignation has got nothing to do with whether he accepted a bottle of wine, or whether he declared it. ICAC has also got nothing to do with his downfall. O'Farrell was caught out and he has no one to blame for this but himself."

"The crucial question is: why did he hang his premiership on the receipt of a bottle of wine?

It's important to go back to see how this unravelled.

When the commission's forensic accountants found a book entry in the Australian Water Holdings accounts that showed an American Express payment of $2978 with a reconciliation that read "Gift to Barry O'Farrell and wife", they had an obligation to investigate."

"It was after the lunch break that O'Farrell was called. He repeatedly and vehemently denied he had received such a gift.

''I'm certain that I would remember receiving a bottle of Penfold's Grange, particularly one that was of my birth year,'' he said. ''I have no idea how much the current vintage Grange would cost but I would understand that a vintage dated the 1950s would require me to declare it.'"

"After leaving the witness box, O'Farrell chose to repeat his denials before a media conference providing journalists with all the grabs they needed of him staking his premiership on the bottle of wine. These were O'Farrell's words. No one from ICAC had tricked him into a corner. It was O'Farrell who did this all on his own."

The entire article is worth a read. McClymont has been attending and covering the hearing.
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 18 April 2014 8:40:37 AM
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Poirot,

The NSW ICAC is kept very busy, with a constant parade of political luminaries and big wigs being "invited" to sit in the hot seat and give their version of events, I wont say evidence, that would be too generious a term, because most lie through their teeth as to what they knew and did. O'Farrell was just the latest in a conga line of crooks, spives, and who knows what, to feel the blow torch of the ICAC, and so they should.
The truth is for well over 10 years you couldn't sneeze in NSW Labor unless you got the okay from Eddie. It now seems the Eddie Obeid cancer also invaded the Liberal Party as well, not to underscore the fact there will be shown that cancers were systemic in that party as well.
The next hearing involves Central Coast Liberal MP's Hartcher, Spence and Webber and chargers of corruption.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/icac-targets-central-coast-liberal-mps-chris-hartcher-chris-spence-and-darren-webber-as-well-as-labors-eddie-obeid-joe-tripodi-and-tony-kelly/story-fni0cx12-1226830411776
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 18 April 2014 8:53:30 AM
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Dear Poirot,

Thanks for that - and here's another link that's
well analysed by Ben Eltham:

http://newmatilda.com/2014/04/17/icac-claims-another-scalp

Ben tells us that -

"The respected Liberal Premier was at the height of his
powers heading a popular government with a huge majority when
he's been brought undone by the apparently minor matter
of a bottle of wine..."

"When called to give evidence at ICAC O'Farrell at first
said he "couldn't remember" and certainly not from the
dubious provenance of Australian Water Holdings' Nick Di
Girolamo."

He couldn't remember a $3,000 bottle of wine?
Then when a Thank You note turned up which O'Farrel wrote -
O'Farrell's days were numbered.

And there's more to this scenario - still to come.

Interesting times ahead - that's for sure!
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 18 April 2014 9:00:55 AM
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