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We don't need to emphasise our national culture

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Dear Shocker,

Could you please tell us what is the "traditional
Australian identity."
Kindly define it.

Please put into words what the "Australian way of life
is?"

Thank You.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 6 April 2014 10:40:59 AM
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Please put into words what the "Australian way of life is?"
Foxy,
I don't think anyone of any nationality is able to answer in the way you're asking. There are some things & that includes culture that fall into the category of "that goes without saying".
To me as a migrant the Australian way of life in the true sense of the word is when people feel patriotic about Australia, feel protective towards each other, don't rip each other off etc. i.e. all the values that are no longer present due to the tragic failure of the knee jerk reaction that we have been forced to accept as multiculturalism.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 6 April 2014 10:57:15 AM
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Dear individual,

You wrote: "To me as a migrant the Australian way of life in the true sense of the word is when people feel patriotic about Australia, feel protective towards each other, don't rip each other off etc."

The other day I came out of the RR station, and it was raining. A young man who looked Chinese to me offered to share his umbrella with me. it was a protective act toward an old man who obviously did not share his ethnicity.

There really is no evidence that Australians are less likely to rip people off than people of other cultures. Christopher Skase was very good at that, and he was not alone among 'regular' Aussies.

I am also a migrant, and I still care for my native land, the USA. I support Australia and the USA when I think they are right and oppose them when I think they are wrong. I think that is the way for a citizen to behave.

I don't believe Australians are any more virtuous than people of other cultures.
Posted by david f, Sunday, 6 April 2014 12:06:29 PM
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I don't believe Australians are any more virtuous than people of other cultures.
david f,
I didn't say they were, on the contrary. Also, the Chinese are the most successful of non-anglo saxon immigrants. I have had little favours done by people who dislike my race but not me. Individually many people of all races are as good or bad as any. There's only one lot who don't want to fit in & they're not even a race as such & they're the ones most sane people who care about the future of society are concerned about.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 6 April 2014 12:15:02 PM
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davidf, "I don't believe Australians are any more virtuous than people of other cultures"

You likely wouldn't, however this hasn't happened in Australia,

-Rwanda genocide,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3DrvrrSgHI

nor this,
-Girl 'is stoned to death by Syrian fundamentalists for having a FACEBOOK account'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2562051/Girl-stoned-death-Syrian-fundamentalists-having-FACEBOOK-account.html

Australians abhor ritual slaughter too.

Want more examples? There are plenty.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 6 April 2014 4:27:56 PM
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Foxy, I don't believe I've ever referred to a "traditional Australian identity." or **the* Australian way of life", so I don't see why I should have to define those terms.

You must have me confused with someone else.
I am probably the most unconventional, eclectic person I've ever met.

I've referred to the fact that Australians (the ethnic group) are:

(1) White/European in ancestry.

(2) part of the Anglosphere.

(3) related to other Europeans, culturally and genetically, going back 6000 years.

(4) that European civilisation has an *eclectic*, dynamic cultural history, not a uniform or static one.

(5) that for two centuries, immigration here was restricted to Europeans almost exclusively. Our national foundation, our core is therefore irrevocably European (not global) and should be respected as such.

(6) that if indeed we need immigrants at all (I doubt it), we can select White people who want a "better life" (Eastern Europeans, White Latin Americans, the millions of Europeans left stranded as resented minorities in former colonies).

(7) that we already have plenty of impoverished people here who need help first (700,000 unemployed, 100,000 homeless).

(8) that non-European peoples and cultures are not related to us (with the exception of Indic/Iranian, but that connection was severed 6000 years ago).

(9) that exotic elements can be adopted or consumed without immigration (e.g. music, films, posters, etc can all be purchased online). We adopted surfing (Hawaiian origin) and jazz (Black American) during the White Australia era!

(10) that the sudden and massive (80% of immigrants non-Euro) introduction of people from 6000 cultures is a dangerous, irresponsible and disrespectful (to us) experiment.

(11) that if Australians wanted such diversity (Ask us!), it should be done incrementally and on a small scale, gradually expanding the range over *centuries*.

(12) that history's prior experiments with mixing different peoples together has generally produced deadly failures and our experiment will follow the same downward descent.

If you wish for me to elaborate on anything I've actually said, I will.
Posted by Shockadelic, Sunday, 6 April 2014 5:10:51 PM
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