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We don't need to emphasise our national culture

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Foxy,

You can't get away with just saying that it is all 'done and dusted', because that is just another of you trademark blow-offs.

Quite apart from that, young Australians are fed up with being bent over backwards and forwards for new and higher taxes to support the victim industry. Those young Australians cannot even afford to have the children they want to have because they are paying for welfare and to the professional spruikers of 'victimhood' and 'entitlement' who swing from the guvvy teats.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 6:26:56 PM
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SteeleRedux,
Who was talking about inferior people ? Only you brought that up. The rest of the posters are talking about cultural impact. You haven't answered my question either.
re Our culture of tolerance... what do you mean we. You're one of the most intolerant posters so don't include yourself in our group of tolerants. After all we tolerate you don't we but you don't tolerate us.
I think you're not switched on sufficiently to see what's coming otherwise you wouldn't make the comments you make.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 9:30:32 PM
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Great explanation Shockadelic

You rightly point to the "core contradiction at the heart of multiculturalism" that allows non-western groups if racist-supremacists to go uncriticised BUT the odd lone white Nazi is milked for all the attempts to conclude from his existence that the entire white race is racist

But the real essential problem of this ordeal lies in an inability for people to properly conceptualize an authentic cultural promotion for true moral reasons . . . . . compared to . .
. . . . an inauthentic cultural promotion these people may focus upon transitory aspects such of the culture such as historical particularities and various historical deeds.

Mostly however, the kind who promotes his 'culture' by appraising their racial identity and historical and religious nature etc. essentially means that this person ties their culture into their racial aspect in an essential sense. That is why a racist might say things like "white race is the superior culture" as they inauthentic ally make the mistake to conflate an essential aspect to our human identity (i.e. moral values and human invention etc.) with some aspect of human identity that is merely a passing historical particular fact right now such as a racial mix, a skin tone, a hair and eye colour variation etc. or even other passing historically adopted factors.

I believe the Left and others in our western culture who misunderstand the concepts and issues so that they can find themselves openly condemning a white man for saying "proud white Aussie" as racist whilst not similarly condemning other ethnic cultures for the exact same type of inauthentic thinking and actions of each ethnic tribe which more often than not make essential to their identity those sane silly and transitory aspects like skin, race, religion, tradition and history (even food types)

Like you indicate -

the real racists apart from the odd twit white supremacist are the bulk of types of cultures/ethnic groups that make as part of their identity in an essential way silly and narrow tribal-specific aspects which results in racial-supremacy, ethnic and religious cleansing and genocide.
Posted by Matthew S, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 9:42:58 PM
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Dear individual,

You ask;

“Who was talking about inferior people ?”

Shocker was.

Then you state;

“You haven't answered my question either.”

Thought it was a riddle and you were going to spring the answer on us. I'm actually not quite sure who you were referring to with all your talk about bread and butter. Could you be more specific.

Next came the contention;

“After all we tolerate you don't we but you don't tolerate us”.

I'm not sure who 'we' is? But if it is the usual bunch spouting bigotry and harassing female posters then I suppose I tend to take an less than tolerant approach but I do try and make every effort to only serve back each thread what has been put up first.

That being said you really need not tolerate me in any form or fashion. In fact you could probably just ignore my posts, just skim past the suckers. Let the call go out over hill and dale, over valley and glen, over craig and cairn, hence forth tolerate no more young fella!
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 10 April 2014 1:00:25 AM
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SteeleRedux, I stated that South Africa's national status is *not* acceptable, and White South Africans would therefore be excluded, unless there were some other mitigating criteria such as ancestry.

If White South Africans could establish their own country, that little pocket would suddenly be a First World country.
Unfortunately, they're not concentrated enough in any one location to do that.

If White South Africans' ancestors had not settled there, they would be the *same* people living in Britain or the Netherlands, and therefore in an approved country.

It's not their fault they're First World people living in a Third World country.

I didn't call anyone "inferior".
We may all indeed be equal, but *show me*, don't tell me.
Prove it.
If a Black nation has a GDP-per-capita that's one tenth of ours, where's the evidence of "equality"?.

No, don't blame past horrors. Many of the former Communist Eastern European countries have risen to our level within a decade or so.

Haiti has been independent for over *200* years and is still the pits.

Matthew S, I don't know whether linking genetic traits with cultural achievement is "inauthentic".

Genetic interactions can be quite complicated.
We probably only know the tip of the iceberg about the consequences of this or that gene/allele combination.

There may be no way to explain just how, but maybe blue/green/grey eyes and blonde/red/light brown hair might be linked to intelligence, emotional control, creativity or many other beneficial factors.

Yes, we learn much from "nurture" (environment), but that cultural environment may only exist because of our "nature" (genes/alleles) in the first place.

Our nature (genes) existed long before "nurture" (culture) even appeared.

The countries who have *proven* they are our equal (e.g. Japan, South Korea) had quite sophisticated cultures, even before modernisation.
The potential was always there.

The worst performers (African, Pacific Islands) had the most primitive cultures.
Maybe you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Posted by Shockadelic, Thursday, 10 April 2014 4:52:19 AM
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otb,

Please stop.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 10 April 2014 5:15:50 AM
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