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Racism in Australia

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Paul you would be a joke, if you weren't serious.

Tell me lad, when did you first discover you hated your mother, Oh, & all white people

Please get help.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 17 March 2014 11:16:04 AM
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I have always said OLO was full of racists. Whether they call themselves bigots or intolerant or even deny outright that they are racist it is fairly obvious to any reasonable person that they are as racist as any KKK member and even up there with the eugenicists of old.

Intolerance, bigotry and racism are all heinous attitudes and you should and will be condemned for proudly proclaiming your nastiness and hatred.

That other groups have racist attitudes does not make it right for you to behave just as appallingly.

All people should be treated as individuals and praised or condemned on what they actually do not on what fearful, ignorant people think they might do.
Posted by mikk, Monday, 17 March 2014 11:29:51 AM
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Paul,
You seem to infer that the attack on Hasbeen's son was only a rare occurance, there have been many such attacks by lebs on lone anglo males. As there has been rapes and harassment of anglo girls. The anti social behaviour of muslim lebs is well known. How about the violence here caused by the Syria situation.

You also refer to racial traits and you are incorrect. It is cultural and passed down from one generation to the next. After 3 generations they still refer to themselves as Lebs. We do not appear to have the same social problems with non muslim Lebanese.

The question for us is; How many attacks, rapes and anti social behaviour do we tolerate, or how many generations, before we say enough and stop allowing more of this group in.

The same applies to other groups that continue with alien cultural practices, such as underage and forced marriage, continued hatreds and fighting between groups. Again criticism of such is not racism, it is on cultural grounds. Thankfully most migrant groups make good efforts to integrate, there are only a few groups that do not.

I see very little evidence of 'white based' racism, except the rare incident like the bimbos you mentioned. The government has a right to reconsider laws if the present laws are not adequate or too restrictive. You are looking for reds under the bed, why not wait until you see what is proposed, if anything..
Posted by Banjo, Monday, 17 March 2014 11:44:08 AM
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Paul,

There is plenty of racism, Whites are racist, Lebs are racist, Muslims are racist, Aboriginals are racist.

It has been the habit of humans over the millennia to form communities based on shared heritage and differentiate those within the group from others by language, culture, religion, colour, etc. One only has to remember school to remember the groups or cliques. And one only has to visit a soccer match in the UK to see how different tribes of supporters square off against each other.

Today's society, however, expects that each person is treated on their merit, but is rife with examples of nepotism, cronyism etc, and people forming gangs based on race. Hasbeen's example of his son being attacked by a gang of lebanese is a prime example of racism where a group of racially exclusive individuals attacks someone of another race and does not require proof beyond a reasonable doubt as Paul is trying to suggest, as a gang of whites attacking a "leb" would instantly be labelled racist.

The laws against racial vilification I believe go too far as they include the prohibition against causing offense which is far more subjective. To extend SOL's example, Say that Joe Blogs has had several experiences of aboriginals (I use them as a continuation of the above example) being disruptive, and then says that aboriginals are drunken trouble makers. That would be offensive to many, but to Joe, that is simply stating his personal experience. The issue of vilification then falls to the intent of his statement which is a much more difficult level of proof, and where the issue of free speech clashes with the desire to protect.

As a Liberal, I find any law prosecuting people for saying what they believe is troubling, and that the line in the sand against hate speech needs to be very clearly defined, and not subject to anyone's sensibilities.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 17 March 2014 12:32:37 PM
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mikk,
Please tell me why anyone should be tolerant of those that are contemptuously disregarding our laws and social standards.

Then why you regard such intolerance as racism.
Posted by Banjo, Monday, 17 March 2014 12:55:24 PM
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When will people realise that you ARE a racist when you state things like
"The anti social behaviour of muslim lebs is well known"
"Thankfully most migrant groups make good efforts to integrate, there are only a few groups that do not.

Thanks for proving my point Banjo.

P.S. You need to look a bit harder. I can think of numerous examples of "white based" racism. Much of OLO for starters.

P.P.S. I dont tolerate anyone breaking our laws but can you explain to me what exactly are "our social standards"? Are they just your standards or do they encompass all of Australia's diverse and ways of living?
Posted by mikk, Monday, 17 March 2014 2:12:30 PM
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