I'm thinking, if CLEM's proposal won't work, what will ?

Speaking as one who never produced anything in his entire life, it would seem to me, if we don't find a process/a system/something in which to keep this once great country going...surely we'll become the 'white trash' of Asia ?

Everyone of you, who've contributed to this topic must have ('in your own mind') SOME SOLUTION to our respective ills, surely ?

O SONG WU..the key..to all this..is to become fully first world
by allowing the true values back into our coin/that has been long kept artificially low..to make us '.competitive.mainly by big us dollar deals/like the one not TALKED OF THIS MORNING of 14 bilion worth of over engineered yanKI flying machines..we will buy on borrowed money in the next 3 years'

this volume..of usa SPEND..HAS LONG HELD OUR DOLLAR LOW
STopping it would allow the true value to buy true value..ie we live HIGH ON THE HOG..because the consumables cost near noTHING..[lets face it as a nation/we are now like doctors..not road bUILDERS..OR TOILET ENGENEERS..BUT WE GOT A THIRD RATE MONEY SYSTEM..LIKE THE FIRMER NATZIES..BUT BOUND BY GREEK LIKE DEBT

SEE THE FEDERAl..has made the state..assume the debt
the state has forced the people into debt/we owe private debt..now that has a capiTALIST PROFFIT MAQRGIN ON TOP PLUS INTREST ON TOP OF GST..ETC..[WHEN GOVT CAN ISSUE ITS OWN MONEY FOR FREE.

THESE FACTOries..CAN BE REMADE INTO HOUSING AND SHOPPING AND MIXED BUISNESS WITH ENTERTAINMENT..ETC..people can live near their work..not drive 3 hours to a job..but first we need let the play play out..its going to hurt heaps..as long as we think we need more private security expenditure while cutting education science and the arts

any ideas are wasted ON THIS LOT
[I GAVE RUDD MANY OF HIS IDEAS..HE MANAGED TO STUFF NEAR EVERYONE OF EM UP..because he didnt have the viSION..HE took ADVICE..FROM CAPITALISTS..i recall his wife is millionaire..because she took up the privatization of employment..into a YANKI COMMISION BASED TYPE..ITS JUST WASTED ON THIS BUNCH OF NEST FEATHERLIGHTISTS.

2b ctd

see how the latest building show..is building in a dead factory/now upSCALE THAT VISION INTO MAKING A MARKET TYPE european market stall.yards of stals..making thinGS ..where they live/repairing things better than new

i recall in rebuilding italy.the choice WAS TO MAKE Exclusive luxury..or CHEAP MASS PRODUCED..THEY WENT WITH QUALITY/WE NOW FACE THE SAME TEST..DARE WE BE GREAT?..TEL USA WE DONT WANT NO MORE PLANES/SECURITY STUFf amd spying stuff etc.

we need TO STEP BAck in time
decentralization..working localy not globally.
SIMPLY restore true values back into coin..and ya coin jar becomes the banko..[a money box SIZE OF A SARDEEN CAN.holds 200 DOLLARS IN 2 DOLLAR COIN..REVALUE THEIR FACE VALUE BACK TO THE PRE DEBASED VALUES MAKES THAT 200 BUCKS 20,000...we begin consuming..we are saved

< Everyone of you, who've contributed to this topic must have ('in your own mind') SOME SOLUTION to our respective ills, surely ? >

Sure! Get rid of all the bullsh!t regulations and let people work for a start. Get rid of the GST, it killed more businesses than any other tax. Change the tax system. Stop pandering to multinationals/large corporations and allowing them to monopolise markets via regulation. Stop nannying the employees at the expense of the employer. People in this country have one of the worst cases of tall poppy syndrome I've ever seen!

But even this won't help any more I don't think. There are much easier ways for the time being to make money and everyone with the cash to start a business knows making stuff in Australia is suicide! .gov has never been friendly to small business in Australia and now they've just about got their wish of eradicating it for good. They won't have the last laugh though, we'll all pay in the future!

Hi there RAWMUSTARD and ONE UNDER GOD (Johan)...

'...They won't have the last laugh though, we'll all pay in the future...' Essentially, what you're saying RM is, as a Nation, we've had it ?

I guess (sadly) you're right. I suppose, in order to carry on, pay our huge welfare bill, pay for all the necessities that we now enjoy, we'll need to borrow more ? And borrow even more again, in order to meet the interest payments levied for all the previous loans.

Thus our welfare bill increases, more out of work, because there's fewer employers with jobs available. Vacancies exist only for the highest qualified applicants. We'll again need to borrow more, because welfare recipients outnumber workers ? From our Triple AAA rating, perhaps the Credit Assessors won't even look at us for any further rating, because they'll consider us a poor risk with our ever burgeoning debt ?

Still our politicians will argue too and fro across the chamber, without ever addressing issues of our basic salvation.

The future seems is held in one man owner specialist businesses. They seem to survive very well.

We used to get all our dies made in China for a quarter the price we paid die makers in Australia.