Paul, back from the repair shop PC not me and not happy at the you lie sling at you.
See in truth I can not agree with every thing you say, nor you me.
And yes I have lashed out, even after promises I would not.
Been a victim to SM s huge ego, a badly miss placed one, had those words thrown at me.
Not sure I ever used them against him.
Sorry bloke but we both know on greens my views are not far from SMs.

But consider this, all the huge potholes in Abbott,s post victory seem to be ones that would have seen Labor slagged right off, if done under them.
Too Murdock is murdering the good name some press once had post his death will his son keep the loss making scandal sheets going or will he have control of our electronic media by then.

Dear Belly,

Welcome back.

The Australian newspaper has had article after article
claiming that the ABC pushes a Left/Green agenda.
That's the politics at play here as News Corp would
have us see them, the ABC, the Greens and the Left on
one side and the mass of ordinary "decent" Australians
on the other.

However, as political commentators have pointed out
that argument is fake, phoney, BS. Polls show that the
mass of ordinary decent Australians have consistently
shown a very high regard for the ABC. Many Australians
have believed that it was (and is) indeed "Our ABC."

But we've covered this ground on this forum previously
and no matter what any of us say - people like SM
will continue to follow the arguments of
The Australian, and the News Corp press. And as we know -
Rupert Murdoch's media outlets (and that means most
newspapers in Australia) give direct expression to his will.
And Mr Murdoch as with the BBC is ideologically opposed to
the very existence of the ABC. And that's just one reason
that we should support the ABC. We need a diversity of
opinions not just compliance to the strident, narrow-minded
views of one man.

Foxy,

Yes, many Australians do believe that it is "your" ABC.

Your daily tirade against Newscorp, shows that the truth hurts.

SM,

Ah yes, as does your daily tirades against
anything that doesn't come down the colon
of Mr Murdoch's newspapers. Even Stephen!

As for the truth hurting?

Nah. The truth only hurts those who
rely on divisive tactics and secrecy.
Ask Mr Scott Morrison.
The truth - is the new political divide.
Truth versus lies. It's replacing
the old dichotomies of Conservative versus Reformist,
Left versus Right, Capitalist versus Socialist,
and for most of us it's a positive move in
public life.

Foxy,

Have you seen me criticise the Fairfax media even though they are left of center? Neither do I criticise everything in the ABC, So your hysterical accusation is wrong.

I also believe that ABC journalists generally display integrity, as do most Fairfax and Newscorp journalists, and the ABC does produce services that are needed.

However:

-The article on asylum seekers burning their hands was unprofessional and lacking journalistic integrity. If Mark Scott had any sense he would have immediately issued an apology and correction, and the issue would have disappeared. Instead his defiance blew the issue out of proportion.

-While the ABC is generally unbiased, there are a significant number of articles that push the labor / greens point of view, and a dearth of articles critical of labor or the unions.

-Finally, there is no justification other than nostalgia for the government to provide services at taxpayer expense that can be provided better by private business often for free. Where the ABC provides services in areas not services by private business then I applaud their efforts, but where there are several channels providing similar content, then the government stations should be shut or sold.

Between the ABC and SBS there are more taxpayer funded stations in the free to air segment than independent stations. This is lunacy.

SM,

I'm glad that you find the ABC is worthy of our support.
And the following link is just one of the reasons why:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/media-watch-finds-abc-pverreached-with-hot-pipe-claims-against-navy-20140204-31yax.html