Hi NathanJ,

It’s interesting that the “takers” in society promote increases in tax on the “producers”?

Regardless of the size of the pie they squawk for a bigger piece.

As for the social and infrastructure spending, it’s worth a thought that whenever economic activity is reduced by bad policy, the tax take is reduced. No rocket science there.

The government of the day is then expected to fill the gap by spending more public money. When there isn’t enough money we hear calls for higher taxes. Funny that?

More pie please sir!

Nathan,
Funny thing the previous Howard government found the tax base adequate.

It was the last big spending government that racked up all the debt.

Lesson learned. We just need governments that are prepared to live within our means and stop tryimg to buy votes by giving handouts to all and sundry.

alex exposes some of the lies behind,,the curtain
http://rss.infowars.com/20140206_Thu_Alex.mp3

pLus the next 'Tax'..[future world currency/carbon credit]
so forget taxing..our consumption,,soon we shall see who was cheating their fair share..for too long its easier TO Collect the pennies from the poor..to pour gold in ITS MILLIONS INTO THE FAMILY TRUSTS OF the few elite.

get UP TO Speed
[as this info sites owner is dying
once its gone..so are we..save THE WORDS WHILE YOU CAN

http://whatreallyhappened.com/

anyhow..the other voice..audible//lives on
THIS format..allows the skipping of the commerce

http://xml.nfowars.net/Alex.rss

ANYHOW..the wikiseed/wikigeld..offer remains open[we dont NEED YOUR SYSTEM]..plus you can fIX THE CONSTITUTED..money system,115..BY RETURNING THE COIN FACE VALUES....BACK TO REAL VALUE/if the bwankers..hasnt inflated away its true worth/BY DEBASING THE VALUE from the coin.

IT DONT NEED..to end this way
as revealed in alex show todaY
http://rss.infowars.com/20140206_Thu_Alex.mp3
ALT End

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15820&page=0
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6152&page=0
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0

....We did have a perfectly good mining tax once.
Do you mean the one that cost millions to implement and returned next to nothing. Yep! Well worth saving.

Nice rant Paul, that ones getting a bit old don't you think. Besides, in all fairness he did take it to the electorate, unlike a certain carbon tax hey!

...How do you accommodate both expectations?, unfortunately Paul, it's called vote buying and is rife in both major parties.

Jayb, investors are a very important part of the housing industry and if you toy with the incentives, like increasing taxes, then you take the risk of chasing them away. The result being where do people live.

Banjo, governments spending money is one thing, but the previous government wasted too much, the result being so many unfinished, unfunded projects and no money left to address the issues.

Nathanj you will need humor to get you past some on this subject and for others?
An ability to not be dragged down.
Banjo if J W Howard was still PM he as is Abbott would be considering tax reform.
May I ask that some look at the VAT in England? it I believe has been raised at least once.
Tax reform is dead ground for political slanging matches,,m that it is needed is a simple truth.
Abbott will cop plenty if he raises it but not from me
My fellow travelers might be interested to be reminded it will not be us the left of center or the fixed right of it that wins elections, in the end the uncommitted hopefully can see for them selves Australia is best served by other than fixed immoveable s like Shadow Minister

Belly,
The only reason the present government may need to increase the tax base is because of the massive debt they inherited from the Labor government.

It would be good if Labor/green supporters here acknowledged that fact. Borrowed money has to be repaid, with interest, which present Labor do not understand, or do not care about. So much for the public interest.